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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #200 on: September 09, 2024, 09:42:02 AM »
I'm much more worried about the defense. Terrible coverage breakdowns combined with an inability to get to the QB rushing 6.

I know the constant heavy blitzing and leaving receivers wide open caused a big turnover but I'm used to the warm fuzzy bending and not breaking style
I think there’s a lot of good “tape” that our coaches can use to improve this week. 

a question for the dudes who might know, outside of the players who ere out of position, did they at least show good instincts?
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #201 on: September 09, 2024, 10:38:24 AM »
Klieman's postgame was pretty telling - said we need to figure out our "identity" on both offense and defense.

Not great two games into the season.

New OC, new QB, new Oline, et al. 

This stuff doesn't all click together in a few weeks of practice.  They'll figure it out.

Yeah, to me the second half was if anything a pretty overall good positive. Other than the incredibly stupid 3rd and 21 give up the defense really improved, and the offense had a very fluid drive in response to their only score in the second half, which came off of said 3rd and 21 give up. It was a perfect mixture of tempo, run, and pass.

It just seems we were timid, and a little scared/yips tbh in the first half. They just need to not played scared and be comfortable establishing a run, and also getting the WRs and Edwards more involved or on some isolations and let them make a play to get Avery settled. It's not that he's only going vertical it just feels like they rather do swing passes to the RBs, which isn't bad but like it needs to spread more.

We played not great, but also I didn't see anything that couldn't be significantly improved with some practice/film improvements. The secondary is the only area I have any lingering concerns but again our blitz packages definitely made their work harder. I'm not totally sold on our dline not getting push or hurries, we had 5 sacks and 11 TFL. Again plenty of blitz issues, but it just seemed way more we got them in long situations pretty regularly, and then just forgot what to do on 3rd down.
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #202 on: September 09, 2024, 11:04:00 AM »
The only offensive series that had me irate was the last one, where we didn't even try to pick up a first down and almost ended up losing the game. Avery killed a few series by trying to get the ball to Giddens too early, but I'm confident he will get that fixed.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #203 on: September 09, 2024, 12:49:51 PM »
It seems there's a absence of run-pass options, which one would think would allow AJ to put the maximum pressure on the defense.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #204 on: September 09, 2024, 01:38:35 PM »
we should be running option plays with avery and edwards at least 97% of the time


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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #205 on: September 09, 2024, 02:03:25 PM »
I wonder if flat route passes that go nowhere will be a thing all season.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #206 on: September 09, 2024, 02:06:12 PM »
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #207 on: September 09, 2024, 02:15:50 PM »
Something that will be important about the Tulane game going forward is that they are good. Quite good. Much like they were two seasons ago, and like Mizzou was last season.

We have much room for improvement, yes. But this young squad getting the win rather than faltering like the past two seasons bodes well.
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #208 on: September 09, 2024, 02:42:52 PM »
Something that will be important about the Tulane game going forward is that they are good. Quite good. Much like they were two seasons ago, and like Mizzou was last season.

We have much room for improvement, yes. But this young squad getting the win rather than faltering like the past two seasons bodes well.

One quick indication of this will be Tulane @ OU this week. Obviously you cant always do the transitive property but if Tulane goes in and wins that's good for us. Afterall OU also was shakey against a pretty meh Houston team
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #209 on: September 09, 2024, 03:27:48 PM »
we should be running option plays with avery and edwards at least 97% of the time

Play action and QB Option. 

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #210 on: September 09, 2024, 04:03:41 PM »
The only offensive series that had me irate was the last one, where we didn't even try to pick up a first down and almost ended up losing the game. Avery killed a few series by trying to get the ball to Giddens too early, but I'm confident he will get that fixed.
Yeah that and the fact we kept using the swing pass to Giddens. Otherwise a lot of it seemed like execution issues.

Biggest positive of the game for me was that Avery seems nearly unsackable.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #211 on: September 09, 2024, 07:39:06 PM »
The only offensive series that had me irate was the last one, where we didn't even try to pick up a first down and almost ended up losing the game. Avery killed a few series by trying to get the ball to Giddens too early, but I'm confident he will get that fixed.
Yeah that and the fact we kept using the swing pass to Giddens. Otherwise a lot of it seemed like execution issues.

Biggest positive of the game for me was that Avery seems nearly unsackable.

Giddens is a really pass receiving RB, but between Dylan Edwards and Joe Jackson we have a ton of ways to get the ball to players out of the backfield. I hope we get some better schemes to do it.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #212 on: September 09, 2024, 09:12:45 PM »
It's too bad Giddens didn't have a little more top end speed. He's great as is, though.
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #213 on: September 10, 2024, 09:13:50 AM »
I wonder if flat route passes that go nowhere will be a thing all season.

Unfortunately, I believe they will be. Our coaches seem to love high percentage throws to get a QB into a rhythm, despite how you basically burn a down to do it.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #214 on: September 10, 2024, 09:14:52 AM »
I'm much more worried about the defense. Terrible coverage breakdowns combined with an inability to get to the QB rushing 6.

I know the constant heavy blitzing and leaving receivers wide open caused a big turnover but I'm used to the warm fuzzy bending and not breaking style
I think there’s a lot of good “tape” that our coaches can use to improve this week. 

a question for the dudes who might know, outside of the players who ere out of position, did they at least show good instincts?

That depends; would you consider leaving players wide open to catch 30+ yard bombs good or bad instincts?

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #215 on: September 10, 2024, 09:19:39 AM »
The only offensive series that had me irate was the last one, where we didn't even try to pick up a first down and almost ended up losing the game. Avery killed a few series by trying to get the ball to Giddens too early, but I'm confident he will get that fixed.

Agreed. That one was infuriating. Zero creativity, didn't change field position, and didn't use much clock.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #216 on: September 10, 2024, 09:22:02 AM »
I think Tulane is a good team and we will probably have an easier time with Arizona at home.

Unless our secondary realizes that their job is to try and prevent the QB from successfully throwing the ball to all the guys running around on the outside, it  may be a long night.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #217 on: September 10, 2024, 09:37:20 AM »
I think Tulane is a good team and we will probably have an easier time with Arizona at home.

Unless our secondary realizes that their job is to try and prevent the QB from successfully throwing the ball to all the guys running around on the outside, it  may be a long night.

They just need to get on the same page on crossing routes. It's not that difficult to fix.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #218 on: September 10, 2024, 09:40:15 AM »
I'm much more worried about the defense. Terrible coverage breakdowns combined with an inability to get to the QB rushing 6.

I know the constant heavy blitzing and leaving receivers wide open caused a big turnover but I'm used to the warm fuzzy bending and not breaking style
I think there’s a lot of good “tape” that our coaches can use to improve this week. 

a question for the dudes who might know, outside of the players who ere out of position, did they at least show good instincts?

That depends; would you consider leaving players wide open to catch 30+ yard bombs good or bad instincts?
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #219 on: September 10, 2024, 09:52:29 AM »
I'm not worried about the secondary, CK is a DB savant.  Could be as simple as swapping out Jordan Riley for another Safety and we look much improved.
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #220 on: September 10, 2024, 10:07:05 AM »
It's too bad Giddens didn't have a little more top end speed. He's great as is, though.

He's a little different RB than Hubert, but that was my only complaint (and not really complaint, it is what it is) I had ever had against Hubert. If they both were a step or two faster they'd be Sproles level. I'm very happy with Giddens, I do wish we use Edwards just a smidge more, especially after like a decent Giddens run or 3 where he's worn the defense down a bit and then the speed burst of Edwards really can be used, change of pace kinda guy.
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #221 on: September 10, 2024, 10:20:19 AM »
I just wish Avery would have hit the wide open Lockett for a TD. I feel like that really would have taken the wind out of Tulane's sails.

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #222 on: September 10, 2024, 10:20:43 AM »
I'm much more worried about the defense. Terrible coverage breakdowns combined with an inability to get to the QB rushing 6.

I know the constant heavy blitzing and leaving receivers wide open caused a big turnover but I'm used to the warm fuzzy bending and not breaking style
I think there’s a lot of good “tape” that our coaches can use to improve this week. 

a question for the dudes who might know, outside of the players who ere out of position, did they at least show good instincts?

That depends; would you consider leaving players wide open to catch 30+ yard bombs good or bad instincts?
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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #223 on: September 10, 2024, 10:21:23 AM »
I'm not worried about the secondary, CK is a DB savant.  Could be as simple as swapping out Jordan Riley for another Safety and we look much improved.

You mean like one that doesn't play 10 yards off the receiver 20 yards down the field?

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Re: Green Wave vs Cats . . .
« Reply #224 on: September 10, 2024, 10:24:05 AM »
I'm much more worried about the defense. Terrible coverage breakdowns combined with an inability to get to the QB rushing 6.

I know the constant heavy blitzing and leaving receivers wide open caused a big turnover but I'm used to the warm fuzzy bending and not breaking style
I think there’s a lot of good “tape” that our coaches can use to improve this week. 

a question for the dudes who might know, outside of the players who ere out of position, did they at least show good instincts?

That depends; would you consider leaving players wide open to catch 30+ yard bombs good or bad instincts?
still melting down on a tuesday? damn, son is down bad.

Eh, not so much a meltdown as I am nervous for AZ.

Arizona has looked worse than we have.