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Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« on: July 04, 2022, 12:30:11 PM »
Establishment Liberal here...just want to say a few things that I agree with that are typically positions of the "other party."


I am FOR a very strong defense and economic health for "big business" and "wall street."  I don't like either of those things, but I accept that they are necessary in the violent world that we live in. 

I will also stand right beside (metaphorically of course) those who work to guarantee the access to shotguns and deer rifles, and I cannot imagine ever changing my mind on that.  You can have my over/under 12 gauge when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

I want nuke power.  I want crap tons of nuke power.  I don't want to be able to swing a dead cat without hitting a nuke power plant. 

I am FOR drastically limiting immigration.






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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2022, 01:06:57 PM »
I am FOR drastically limiting immigration.

Why?

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2022, 01:13:50 PM »
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2022, 01:49:47 PM »
Other than immigration, I agree with both Pete and SD and would like a party that prioritizes these things at the same time.

I also need equality across the board. The backtrack bullshit has to stop.

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2022, 02:09:46 PM »
Other than immigration, I agree with both Pete and SD and would like a party that prioritizes these things at the same time.

I also need equality across the board. The backtrack bullshit has to stop.

What do you mean by this?
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2022, 02:16:46 PM »
I am FOR drastically limiting immigration.

Why?
I am FOR an immediate citizenship for everyone currently in the country.   I do not see any reason to admit anyone else unless they have key skills we need for the workforce.

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2022, 02:27:00 PM »
I do not see any reason to admit anyone else unless they have key skills we need for the workforce.

why?
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2022, 02:29:15 PM »
I do not see any reason to admit anyone else unless they have key skills we need for the workforce.

why?
Why do I not see a reason to allow more? I mean, I guess because I think the reasons to allow more are not very good? :dunno:

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Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2022, 02:31:37 PM »
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.  I support it to augment our workforce where needed.

I’m cool with giving everyone currently here citizenship, because that seems like a fair and decent thing to do, and many of them are key resources for our workforce.

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2022, 02:40:21 PM »
Open and free immigration exactly meets workforce demand as needed. It's not open and free citizenship. I would love to have agreements with Canada and Mexico where people can find work and immigrate just like the EU. You don't really live in a free society if most of the people within it can't leave.

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2022, 02:48:15 PM »
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.  I support it to augment our workforce where needed.

I’m cool with giving everyone currently here citizenship, because that seems like a fair and decent thing to do, and many of them are key resources for our workforce.
Unskilled migrant labor is important in the Ag sector is one Peggy pos

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2022, 02:56:38 PM »
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.  I support it to augment our workforce where needed.

I’m cool with giving everyone currently here citizenship, because that seems like a fair and decent thing to do, and many of them are key resources for our workforce.
Unskilled migrant labor is important in the Ag sector is one Peggy pos
Yep, agree with this.  We also need them in technology.

I am also cool with providing immigration options for special humanitarian circumstances (e.g. I support what they did with Hmong in Minnesota).

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2022, 09:23:07 AM »
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity
Yes + free college for some degrees and in some circumstances.  More spending to cover some/all childcare costs for the working indigent.


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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2022, 10:02:58 AM »
There's officially only one thing to agree with. Whatever Trump wants. I personally do not agree with that.

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“RESOLVED, That the Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention.”

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/08/25/the-2020-republican-party-platform-letat-cest-moi/

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2022, 10:10:13 AM »
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity

You sound ridiculous when you say you’re a republican but support nationalizing the jobs and businesses of millions of people.  Like, no you are not.

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2022, 10:23:04 AM »
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity

You sound ridiculous when you say you’re a republican but support nationalizing the jobs and businesses of millions of people.  Like, no you are not.

Yeah I don't know what republican policies he likes other than low taxes?

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2022, 10:25:01 AM »
I think that the person who gets the most votes should win an election, or at least get the electors from the state they won. Also, people should get vaccinated for all of the deadly diseases out there. Not sure if that leaves any potential policy for me to agree with.

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2022, 10:46:17 AM »
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity

You sound ridiculous when you say you’re a republican but support nationalizing the jobs and businesses of millions of people.  Like, no you are not.

Yeah I don't know what republican policies he likes other than low taxes?

I like low taxes, support for the ag sector (which is extraordinarily socialist but extraordinarily republican at the same time), some restrictions on abortion, pro big strong military, free market capitalism in most cases (exception noted above), deregulation of business, lot of other stuff probably.

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2022, 10:47:06 AM »
I will say the business stuff is by far my "single issue voter" item if I had to pick one.

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2022, 10:58:51 AM »
Other than immigration, I agree with both Pete and SD and would like a party that prioritizes these things at the same time.

I also need equality across the board. The backtrack bullshit has to stop.

What do you mean by this?

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2022, 06:13:43 PM »
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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2022, 06:15:05 PM »
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.


Some kind of population growth is good for the economy in general...and people are doing a lot less rough ridin' so population would stagnate without immigration...

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Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2022, 06:16:59 PM »
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.


Some kind of population growth is good for the economy in general...and people are doing a lot less rough ridin' so population would stagnate without immigration...

Plus, the immigrants who want to come here are more "American" than the rest of us.

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Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2022, 04:54:56 AM »
Peggy Pos:  Our Congress and #shitshow executive branch are working to kind of fix this.

Nancy Neg:  Political leaders setting up portfolios to profit.

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