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Title: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on July 04, 2022, 12:30:11 PM
Establishment Liberal here...just want to say a few things that I agree with that are typically positions of the "other party."


I am FOR a very strong defense and economic health for "big business" and "wall street."  I don't like either of those things, but I accept that they are necessary in the violent world that we live in. 

I will also stand right beside (metaphorically of course) those who work to guarantee the access to shotguns and deer rifles, and I cannot imagine ever changing my mind on that.  You can have my over/under 12 gauge when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

I want nuke power.  I want crap tons of nuke power.  I don't want to be able to swing a dead cat without hitting a nuke power plant. 

I am FOR drastically limiting immigration.




Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 04, 2022, 01:06:57 PM
I am FOR drastically limiting immigration.

Why?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: steve dave on July 04, 2022, 01:13:50 PM
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on July 04, 2022, 01:47:22 PM
I am FOR drastically limiting immigration.

Why?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: CNS on July 04, 2022, 01:49:47 PM
Other than immigration, I agree with both Pete and SD and would like a party that prioritizes these things at the same time.

I also need equality across the board. The backtrack bullshit has to stop.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: star seed 7 on July 04, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
Other than immigration, I agree with both Pete and SD and would like a party that prioritizes these things at the same time.

I also need equality across the board. The backtrack bullshit has to stop.

What do you mean by this?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on July 04, 2022, 02:16:46 PM
I am FOR drastically limiting immigration.

Why?
I am FOR an immediate citizenship for everyone currently in the country.   I do not see any reason to admit anyone else unless they have key skills we need for the workforce.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on July 04, 2022, 02:27:00 PM
I do not see any reason to admit anyone else unless they have key skills we need for the workforce.

why?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on July 04, 2022, 02:29:15 PM
I do not see any reason to admit anyone else unless they have key skills we need for the workforce.

why?
Why do I not see a reason to allow more? I mean, I guess because I think the reasons to allow more are not very good? :dunno:
Title: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on July 04, 2022, 02:31:37 PM
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.  I support it to augment our workforce where needed.

I’m cool with giving everyone currently here citizenship, because that seems like a fair and decent thing to do, and many of them are key resources for our workforce.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 04, 2022, 02:40:21 PM
Open and free immigration exactly meets workforce demand as needed. It's not open and free citizenship. I would love to have agreements with Canada and Mexico where people can find work and immigrate just like the EU. You don't really live in a free society if most of the people within it can't leave.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: steve dave on July 04, 2022, 02:48:15 PM
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.  I support it to augment our workforce where needed.

I’m cool with giving everyone currently here citizenship, because that seems like a fair and decent thing to do, and many of them are key resources for our workforce.
Unskilled migrant labor is important in the Ag sector is one Peggy pos
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on July 04, 2022, 02:56:38 PM
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.  I support it to augment our workforce where needed.

I’m cool with giving everyone currently here citizenship, because that seems like a fair and decent thing to do, and many of them are key resources for our workforce.
Unskilled migrant labor is important in the Ag sector is one Peggy pos
Yep, agree with this.  We also need them in technology.

I am also cool with providing immigration options for special humanitarian circumstances (e.g. I support what they did with Hmong in Minnesota).
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DQ12 on July 05, 2022, 09:23:07 AM
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity
Yes + free college for some degrees and in some circumstances.  More spending to cover some/all childcare costs for the working indigent.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: chum1 on July 05, 2022, 10:02:58 AM
There's officially only one thing to agree with. Whatever Trump wants. I personally do not agree with that.

Quote
“RESOLVED, That the Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention.”

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/08/25/the-2020-republican-party-platform-letat-cest-moi/
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: kim carnes on July 05, 2022, 10:10:13 AM
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity

You sound ridiculous when you say you’re a republican but support nationalizing the jobs and businesses of millions of people.  Like, no you are not.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: michigancat on July 05, 2022, 10:23:04 AM
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity

You sound ridiculous when you say you’re a republican but support nationalizing the jobs and businesses of millions of people.  Like, no you are not.

Yeah I don't know what republican policies he likes other than low taxes?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 05, 2022, 10:25:01 AM
I think that the person who gets the most votes should win an election, or at least get the electors from the state they won. Also, people should get vaccinated for all of the deadly diseases out there. Not sure if that leaves any potential policy for me to agree with.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: steve dave on July 05, 2022, 10:46:17 AM
moderate republican here

I am for universal gov. provided healthcare
I am for making assault weapons illegal or highly difficult and expensive to own
I am for removing qualified immunity

You sound ridiculous when you say you’re a republican but support nationalizing the jobs and businesses of millions of people.  Like, no you are not.

Yeah I don't know what republican policies he likes other than low taxes?

I like low taxes, support for the ag sector (which is extraordinarily socialist but extraordinarily republican at the same time), some restrictions on abortion, pro big strong military, free market capitalism in most cases (exception noted above), deregulation of business, lot of other stuff probably.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: steve dave on July 05, 2022, 10:47:06 AM
I will say the business stuff is by far my "single issue voter" item if I had to pick one.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: CNS on July 05, 2022, 10:58:51 AM
Other than immigration, I agree with both Pete and SD and would like a party that prioritizes these things at the same time.

I also need equality across the board. The backtrack bullshit has to stop.

What do you mean by this?

Roe and anti gay stances
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: dal9 on July 21, 2022, 06:13:43 PM
I'm not a big fan of drag queen story hour
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: dal9 on July 21, 2022, 06:15:05 PM
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.


Some kind of population growth is good for the economy in general...and people are doing a lot less rough ridin' so population would stagnate without immigration...
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Spracne on July 21, 2022, 06:16:59 PM
I am open to the idea of more immigration if someone can point out a compelling argument for me, beyond key resources for our workforce.


Some kind of population growth is good for the economy in general...and people are doing a lot less rough ridin' so population would stagnate without immigration...

Plus, the immigrants who want to come here are more "American" than the rest of us.
Title: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 22, 2022, 04:54:56 AM
Peggy Pos:  Our Congress and #shitshow executive branch are working to kind of fix this.

Nancy Neg:  Political leaders setting up portfolios to profit.

This is geo strategic hellscape, it must change



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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on July 22, 2022, 07:24:26 AM
Peggy Pos:  Our Congress and #shitshow executive branch are working to kind of fix this.

Nancy Neg:  Political leaders setting up portfolios to profit.

This is geo strategic hellscape, it must change



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 :thumbs:

Very much in agreement with Dax. We need to be leading the world in this, or at a minimum largely self reliant for our critical needs.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 22, 2022, 01:25:00 PM
That’s lame by us
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on August 09, 2022, 07:04:24 PM
Good work, Bi-partisan lawmaking team!

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/biden-ends-slog-on-semiconductor-bill-with-signature-00050530
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 12, 2022, 08:26:16 AM
I'm not a big fan of drag queen story hour
Yeah, seems a bit forced.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2022, 08:36:15 AM
I'm not a big fan of drag queen story hour
Yeah, seems a bit forced.

so don't participate. that's generally what I do when it comes to things I'm not a fan of.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2022, 08:43:13 AM
I'm not a big fan of drag queen story hour
Yeah, seems a bit forced.

so don't participate. that's generally what I do when it comes to things I'm not a fan of.

how can I be a victim then?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 12, 2022, 08:45:47 AM
Yeesh. Tough crowd.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 12, 2022, 08:54:26 AM
You two have been victimized daily on here by the past president for the past two years, bumping former president threads daily, but please go on commenting on a simple observation. :lol:
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: ChiComCat on August 12, 2022, 09:03:59 AM
Small gov types wanting to legislate a dress code for reading to children  :D
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Fedor on August 12, 2022, 09:09:56 AM
Small gov types wanting to legislate a dress code for reading to children  :D
Stop rough ridin' up this thread you idiots.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: chum1 on August 12, 2022, 09:33:36 AM
Definitely not going to agree with the side falsely accusing people of being groomers here.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2022, 09:42:38 AM
Definitely not going to agree with the side falsely accusing people of being groomers here.

also, wacky is already on that side. He's rough ridin' up the thread!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 12, 2022, 09:45:41 AM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 12, 2022, 09:50:55 AM
Backing book readings by trans people to 5 year olds seems like just a simple case of trying to own the 'pubs and doesn't make any sense at all, but who knows, I'm not woke.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: ChiComCat on August 12, 2022, 09:53:07 AM
We can all agree that Wacky can start another thread to complain about that
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: star seed 7 on August 12, 2022, 10:03:23 AM
Drag queens and transsexuals are different things but I'm confused why either reading a story to kids is objectionable.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2022, 10:08:15 AM
Drag queens and transsexuals are different things but I'm confused why either reading a story to kids is objectionable.

I think the point is both sides agree that no one should kidnap your child and force them to be read stories by ANYONE and if they do it should be a crime.  If you need to cry about the fact that somewhere, someone might be cross dressed and reading a book to a child who is there of their own free will both sides agree that is some next level victimhood stuff.

We are all on the same page.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: OK_Cat on August 12, 2022, 10:10:04 AM
I’ve had catholic priests volunteer to read books when my kids were small (public school) and nobody made a stink, even though there is a reasonable chance that as a catholic priest they might be groomers.


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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 12, 2022, 10:13:52 AM
Clowns scared me as a child. I don’t want my kid subject to it too! :cry:
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 12, 2022, 10:25:28 AM
Drag queens and transsexuals are different things but I'm confused why either reading a story to kids is objectionable.

I think the point is both sides agree that no one should kidnap your child and force them to be read stories by ANYONE and if they do it should be a crime.  If you need to cry about the fact that somewhere, someone might be cross dressed and reading a book to a child who is there of their own free will both sides agree that is some next level victimhood stuff.

We are all on the same page.
Where did the former president touch you today, ‘victimstoner?”
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2022, 10:38:44 AM
Drag queens and transsexuals are different things but I'm confused why either reading a story to kids is objectionable.

I think the point is both sides agree that no one should kidnap your child and force them to be read stories by ANYONE and if they do it should be a crime.  If you need to cry about the fact that somewhere, someone might be cross dressed and reading a book to a child who is there of their own free will both sides agree that is some next level victimhood stuff.

We are all on the same page.
Where did the former president touch you today, ‘victimstoner?”

pretty good irony after the catholic priest post.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 12, 2022, 10:42:26 AM
Wait, did you think I posted that or do you think I’m Catholic or both? Good one? :confused:
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2022, 10:52:25 AM
Wait, did you think I posted that or do you think I’m Catholic or both? Good one? :confused:

I DGAF what religion you are.  OK cat posted about catholic priests and you made a molestation post.  It was ironic.

Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: _33 on August 12, 2022, 10:59:21 AM
Drag Queen Story Hour ruining a decent thread about agreeing with the other side is the most on brand 'The Pit' thing ever.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: ChiComCat on August 12, 2022, 11:01:18 AM
Drag Queen Story Hour ruining a decent thread about agreeing with the other side is the most on brand 'The Pit' thing ever.

Agreed!

Thread saved
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2022, 11:06:39 AM
Drag Queen Story Hour ruining a decent thread about agreeing with the other side is the most on brand 'The Pit' thing ever.

yeah, co-sign

and we're back!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on August 12, 2022, 11:28:27 AM
Good work getting back to agreeing, guys!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: OK_Cat on August 12, 2022, 11:29:14 AM
We ALL agree that child molesters have no business in schools


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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2022, 11:59:09 AM
We ALL agree that child molesters have no business in schools


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That is a big 10-4
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: passranch on August 12, 2022, 04:01:40 PM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 12, 2022, 04:30:12 PM
Then we call agree that having people in consultative health care positions of stature who redefine/soften/dumb down terms such as pedophile in order to mainstream, normalize and lesson the implications is abhorrent in every way.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: 'taterblast on August 24, 2022, 08:19:22 AM
student loan forgiveness is stupid
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 24, 2022, 08:42:15 AM
student loan forgiveness is stupid
Especially the paramotors for it, but heh, midterms are coming! Go cats!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: CNS on August 24, 2022, 08:44:43 AM
I'd be happy with loans staying in place but at zero interest.  That should be a middle ground.  Also, maybe capping what a state school can charge per credit hour or something like that.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: LickNeckey on August 24, 2022, 09:05:45 AM
0% interest is a fantastic compromise in all of this

Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2022, 09:13:54 AM
0% interest is a fantastic compromise in all of this
Yes, let’s do this. Look at us! All agreeing!


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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 24, 2022, 09:39:50 AM
student loan forgiveness is stupid
Aren't there portions of the population who could be better served by loan forgiveness? Poor families with credit card debt, medical debt or auto loans?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: 'taterblast on August 24, 2022, 09:48:27 AM
student loan forgiveness is stupid
Aren't there portions of the population who could be better served by loan forgiveness? Poor families with credit card debt, medical debt or auto loans?

probably yep!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: chum1 on August 24, 2022, 09:49:07 AM
I wonder how much the amount forgiven actually differs from the interest amount.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 24, 2022, 10:49:33 AM
It's not going to happen either way, so everyone can relax. I don't think Biden has executive power over this. I think he's just looking for click for midterms.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: OK_Cat on August 24, 2022, 10:52:28 AM
I completely agree that student loans should always be 0% and that there needs to be more guidelines on how much schools can charge. Students shouldn’t be paying three times as much to better themselves.


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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DQ12 on August 24, 2022, 12:06:49 PM
paramotors
I gasped at this
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Institutional Control on August 24, 2022, 12:31:13 PM
paramotors
I gasped at this

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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 24, 2022, 01:09:50 PM
perfection
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 25, 2022, 03:13:16 PM
No problem with cancellation. Join me in asking that both sides have the numbers at hand and ready to provide when they do things like this.  Enough of the “we had to pass the bill/sign the order to know what was in it” BS that now permeates Washington. If it’s a good idea and/or good legislation it can stand up to any critics.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2022, 12:04:22 AM
student loan forgiveness is stupid
Especially the paramotors for it, but heh, midterms are coming! Go cats!
The word you're going for is parameters.

The parameters you're now crying about are exactly what he promised during his campaign. You know, the exact same promise you've spent the last two years whining about him not doing. You've trolled so much that you are reduced to disagreeing with your own previous trolling.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 08:38:32 AM
student loan forgiveness is stupid
Especially the paramotors for it, but heh, midterms are coming! Go cats!
The word you're going for is parameters.

The parameters you're now crying about are exactly what he promised during his campaign. You know, the exact same promise you've spent the last two years whining about him not doing. You've trolled so much that you are reduced to disagreeing with your own previous trolling.
:lol: He's capping people that make over $125K and bragging about it. What a rough ridin' goober. He promised to wipe out student debt overall. Not throw 10K at the issue. Perfect timing, tho!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 08:42:09 AM
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1562867408393539585?s=20&t=Jufaf1YDLhA-OHKXUZMVMw
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2022, 01:05:36 PM
student loan forgiveness is stupid
Especially the paramotors for it, but heh, midterms are coming! Go cats!
The word you're going for is parameters.

The parameters you're now crying about are exactly what he promised during his campaign. You know, the exact same promise you've spent the last two years whining about him not doing. You've trolled so much that you are reduced to disagreeing with your own previous trolling.
:lol: He's capping people that make over $125K and bragging about it. What a rough ridin' goober. He promised to wipe out student debt overall. Not throw 10K at the issue. Perfect timing, tho!

We're both right/wrong. I remembered him capping the amount at $10,000 in his debate with Trump. I had no idea he promised, before that, to wipe out all debt. That being said his cap at $125,000 was always there.

Worth noting it's $125,000 for an individual but $250,000 for those filling jointly.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/promise/1595/forgive-student-loan-debt-public-colleges-and-univ/
https://ballotpedia.org/2020_presidential_candidates_on_student_loan_debt
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 01:09:22 PM
 Yeah, I’m just mad because my family doesn’t qualify. You can make over 125K and still need relief. I graduated in 2008 and have been working uphill my entire life to make a good salary, to pay off this crap. I’ll give him props tho. I’m happy he’s doing it. I just hate that he waited till midterms to do it. #commonground
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on August 26, 2022, 01:25:50 PM
You can make over 125K and still need relief.

no, you can't.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 26, 2022, 01:28:09 PM
If you family is making over $250k, you don't need relief. If anything the caps should have been $75k/$150k. They also shouldn't be hard caps, though. The relief should step down to zero so people just over the line don't get penalized.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: chum1 on August 26, 2022, 01:30:29 PM
$125K is 89-90th percentile for individual income.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 01:32:13 PM
You can make over 125K and still need relief.

no, you can't.
Yes, you do. I hire dentists. They’re coming out with 300K+ debt in loans and make 130K starting out. Many haven’t been hired due to the shitty education they received the last 2-3 years because of the pandemic or had delayed starts because of it. Just because I make over that number now, doesn’t make up for the 5 years I had to live with my family after college to make up for it. For some reason, people base income on how they’re doing in life. I’ve fought 6 figures of debt for 15 years. Not every story is the same. 125K in your state is like earning 50K in the Midwest.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2022, 01:34:06 PM
Are you intentionally ignoring the $250,000 thing or did you not know about it until 30 minutes ago?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 01:35:43 PM
$125K is 89-90th percentile for individual income.
Yeah, I sacrificed a lot to get there with a bachelors degree in communications and a MBA from University of Phoenix, while living at home. How much sacrifice have people put in that are getting hand outs?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 26, 2022, 01:37:19 PM
David Brooks/David French/Russell Moore kind of conservative* here

1. The biggest threat to democracy is on the right with so many on the right distrusting elections
2. Trump should be prosecuted
3. Climate Change is a problem that should be viewed as a human rights issue, and should be addressed globally and this effort should be lead by the largest industrialized nations
4. Once here, the path to citizenship should be pretty attainable for the average person
5. It should be pretty hard to buy a gun, and military style weapons should be banned
6. Executive branch has too much power**
7. We could probably reduce military spending by 50% and still be safe against foreign powers

*meaningless word
**both sides kinda suck at that
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 01:37:44 PM
Are you intentionally ignoring the $250,000 thing or did you not know about it until 30 minutes ago?
We make over that as a family, but have plenty of student loan debt.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: wetwillie on August 26, 2022, 01:40:41 PM
If you have over 100k in student loan debt 10k wasn’t going to materially change your financial trajectory. 
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on August 26, 2022, 01:42:05 PM
If you family is making over $250k, you don't need relief. If anything the caps should have been $75k/$150k. They also shouldn't be hard caps, though. The relief should step down to zero so people just over the line don't get penalized.

i (obviously) agree that the caps are far too generous and i'll also add that it's a genuinely difficult problem to target people that might genuinely need public assistance because of how salaries scale with age.  it's obviously obscene to cancel the debts of people in the top quintile of income, but it's less obviously offensive, but just as unnecessary to cancel debt for young graduates not currently making high salaries, but very likely to do so in the future.

i will give the administration some recognition for targeting pell grant recipients for the second 10k of relief.  that's a decent, administratively easy way to at least target some of the funds towards people that at least did not come from upper middle-class and above families.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2022, 01:42:37 PM
David Brooks/David French/Russell Moore kind of conservative* here

1. The biggest threat to democracy is on the right with so many on the right distrusting elections
2. Trump should be prosecuted
3. Climate Change is a problem that should be viewed as a human rights issue, and should be addressed globally and this effort should be lead by the largest industrialized nations
4. Once here, the path to citizenship should be pretty attainable for the average person
5. It should be pretty hard to buy a gun, and military style weapons should be banned
6. Executive branch has too much power**
7. We could probably reduce military spending by 50% and still be safe against foreign powers

*meaningless word
**both sides kinda suck at that

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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: chum1 on August 26, 2022, 01:43:18 PM
$250K is 93-94th percentile for household income.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on August 26, 2022, 01:44:29 PM
doesn’t make up for the 5 years I had to live with my family after college to make up for it.

i never made over 30k/yr (mostly far less) until i was 38 or 39.  get over it.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 02:23:16 PM
If you have over 100k in student loan debt 10k wasn’t going to materially change your financial trajectory.
Well I don't owe that much anymore. Most of mine were private. Those will be paid off in two years. I'd appreciate if I can get by to neutral before the age of 40, so I can pay for my kids tuition and live my best life moving forward.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 02:24:08 PM
doesn’t make up for the 5 years I had to live with my family after college to make up for it.

i never made over 30k/yr (mostly far less) until i was 38 or 39.  get over it.
No offense, but how is this even possible? Especially living in cali. Do you do social work?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: wetwillie on August 26, 2022, 02:28:26 PM
If you have over 100k in student loan debt 10k wasn’t going to materially change your financial trajectory.
Well I don't owe that much anymore. Most of mine were private. Those will be paid off in two years. I'd appreciate if I can get by to neutral before the age of 40, so I can pay for my kids tuition and live my best life moving forward.

You gave an example of your dentists that have 300k plus in loans, it wouldn’t help them move the needle at all.  Honestly I don’t think 10k really helps anyone move the needle. 
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 26, 2022, 02:30:17 PM
David Brooks/David French/Russell Moore kind of conservative* here

1. The biggest threat to democracy is on the right with so many on the right distrusting elections
2. Trump should be prosecuted
3. Climate Change is a problem that should be viewed as a human rights issue, and should be addressed globally and this effort should be lead by the largest industrialized nations
4. Once here, the path to citizenship should be pretty attainable for the average person
5. It should be pretty hard to buy a gun, and military style weapons should be banned
6. Executive branch has too much power**
7. We could probably reduce military spending by 50% and still be safe against foreign powers

*meaningless word
**both sides kinda suck at that
:cheers:

Did I just find someone on this bbs who also reads Russ Moore?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 02:30:53 PM
If you have over 100k in student loan debt 10k wasn’t going to materially change your financial trajectory.
Well I don't owe that much anymore. Most of mine were private. Those will be paid off in two years. I'd appreciate if I can get by to neutral before the age of 40, so I can pay for my kids tuition and live my best life moving forward.

You gave an example of your dentists that have 300k plus in loans, it wouldn’t help them move the needle at all.  Honestly I don’t think 10k really helps anyone move the needle.
Fair. It's still something tho. I'm like within 2 years of being debt free. I would happily take it and not look back.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on August 26, 2022, 02:31:38 PM
No offense, but how is this even possible? Especially living in cali. Do you do social work?

i was either an undergraduate, dropped out and doing manual labor or in grad school until then.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on August 26, 2022, 02:35:15 PM
If you have over 100k in student loan debt 10k wasn’t going to materially change your financial trajectory.
Well I don't owe that much anymore. Most of mine were private. Those will be paid off in two years. I'd appreciate if I can get by to neutral before the age of 40, so I can pay for my kids tuition and live my best life moving forward.

You gave an example of your dentists that have 300k plus in loans, it wouldn’t help them move the needle at all.  Honestly I don’t think 10k really helps anyone move the needle.
Fair. It's still something tho. I'm like within 2 years of being debt free. I would happily take it and not look back.
What does a moderately busy dentist who has been in practice for approx 10 years make in JoCo? [no pressure to answer if this is a protected trade secret, just curious]
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 02:37:32 PM
200K+. Probably close to $250,000. I just hear nightmare stories about their loans all the time. Now, imagine them going private practice too and what they own on that. I still hire 70 year old dentist, because they can't retire on what they've made during said time.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on August 26, 2022, 02:40:48 PM
I still hire 70 year old dentist, because they can't retire on what they've made during said time.

lol.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 26, 2022, 02:42:58 PM
Yeah, those dentists have been divorced three times.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 02:50:15 PM
No offense, but how is this even possible? Especially living in cali. Do you do social work?

i was either an undergraduate, dropped out and doing manual labor or in grad school until then.
Got it. Good for you. I just thought you graduated from K-State when 'clams did.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on August 26, 2022, 02:56:23 PM
Got it. Good for you. I just thought you graduated from K-State when 'clams did.

i think i did, but i was older than him when we were both kstate undergrads.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 26, 2022, 03:08:19 PM
Yeah, I’m just mad because my family doesn’t qualify. You can make over 125K and still need relief. I graduated in 2008 and have been working uphill my entire life to make a good salary, to pay off this crap. I’ll give him props tho. I’m happy he’s doing it. I just hate that he waited till midterms to do it. #commonground

You make over $250 in joco and need some debt relief?  Those straps on the sides of your boots are there for a reason
Title: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: OK_Cat on August 26, 2022, 03:12:05 PM
My lord, this thread took an unexpected fanningbrag turn rather quickly


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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 03:16:46 PM
 :gocho: I feed off my haters!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: MakeItRain on August 26, 2022, 04:42:25 PM
I still hire 70 year old dentist, because they can't retire on what they've made during said time.

lol.

Absurd. How in the eff does someone who apparently spent 40 years being completely financially irresponsible get exempted from the "work harder and pull yourself up from the bootstraps" narrative?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 06:01:13 PM
I still hire 70 year old dentist, because they can't retire on what they've made during said time.

lol.

Absurd. How in the eff does someone who apparently spent 40 years being completely financially irresponsible get exempted from the "work harder and pull yourself up from the bootstraps" narrative?
Divorces as previously noted and it’s the #1 drinking profession, because you’re in disgusting mouths all day. Also, starting your own practice after graduation is never the way to go. I don’t see you understanding it tho.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Kat Kid on August 26, 2022, 07:04:42 PM
$125K is 89-90th percentile for individual income.
Yeah, I sacrificed a lot to get there with a bachelors degree in communications and a MBA from University of Phoenix, while living at home. How much sacrifice have people put in that are getting hand outs?
You realize living with your parents rent free is a privilege?
Title: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: catastrophe on August 26, 2022, 07:35:08 PM
If you family is making over $250k, you don't need relief. If anything the caps should have been $75k/$150k. They also shouldn't be hard caps, though. The relief should step down to zero so people just over the line don't get penalized.

i (obviously) agree that the caps are far too generous and i'll also add that it's a genuinely difficult problem to target people that might genuinely need public assistance because of how salaries scale with age.  it's obviously obscene to cancel the debts of people in the top quintile of income, but it's less obviously offensive, but just as unnecessary to cancel debt for young graduates not currently making high salaries, but very likely to do so in the future.

i will give the administration some recognition for targeting pell grant recipients for the second 10k of relief.  that's a decent, administratively easy way to at least target some of the funds towards people that at least did not come from upper middle-class and above families.
I was just having a conversation with someone about the kind of arbitrary nature of the breakdown. Based on my understanding of the income limits, tons of students coming out of professional school like business and law into high salary careers are going to luck into $10k for absolutely no principled reason, while people 1 or 2 years removed are completely locked out.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on August 26, 2022, 07:44:49 PM
tons of students coming out of professional school like business and law into high salary careers are going to luck into $10k for absolutely no principled reason, while people 1 or 2 years removed are completely locked out.

yeah.  i mean, it's great that the future 1%ers that are a year or two too old to qualify are locked out, but the including those that happened to graduate at the right time effect is more universal and really dumb.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 08:12:41 PM
$125K is 89-90th percentile for individual income.
Yeah, I sacrificed a lot to get there with a bachelors degree in communications and a MBA from University of Phoenix, while living at home. How much sacrifice have people put in that are getting hand outs?
You realize living with your parents rent free is a privilege?
It was frown upon when I was doing it. Especially here. I never broadcasted it because the Trim’s on this board.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on August 26, 2022, 08:24:14 PM
It was frown upon when I was doing it. Especially here. I never broadcasted it because the Trim’s on this board.

i was living in my parents' house during the time period when trim very generously gave me dozens of free kstate bball tickets.  can't recall that he ever mentioned it, certainly not negatively.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 08:33:43 PM
He literally wanted to give me crap from day 1. Knocking my intelligence and girls I was “dating” at the time. This was like 10-12 years ago tho, now. He just ignores my posts knowing that he is playing dumb & single AF in his late 40’s.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: dal9 on August 26, 2022, 08:35:23 PM
You paid for a University of Phoenix MBA?  That's like the worst value degree from the worst value school
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 08:41:28 PM
You paid for a University of Phoenix MBA?  That's like the worst value degree from the worst value school
No. it was free, because I worked there. It’s credentialed too. I make mad $ now because of it.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: dal9 on August 26, 2022, 08:43:44 PM
You paid for a University of Phoenix MBA?  That's like the worst value degree from the worst value school
No. it was free, because I worked there. It’s credentialed too. I make mad $ now because of it.

were you a recruiter or something?  i'd be hard pressed to sleep at night...

anyway, i don't mean to crap on you too much
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 08:48:18 PM
You paid for a University of Phoenix MBA?  That's like the worst value degree from the worst value school
No. it was free, because I worked there. It’s credentialed too. I make mad $ now because of it.

were you a recruiter or something?  i'd be hard pressed to sleep at night...

anyway, i don't mean to crap on you too much
I recruit millionaire providers on the reg.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: dal9 on August 26, 2022, 08:49:08 PM
You paid for a University of Phoenix MBA?  That's like the worst value degree from the worst value school
No. it was free, because I worked there. It’s credentialed too. I make mad $ now because of it.

were you a recruiter or something?  i'd be hard pressed to sleep at night...

anyway, i don't mean to crap on you too much
I recruit millionaire providers on the reg.
i meant were u a recruiter of students for UPhx
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: DreamWeaver69 on August 26, 2022, 09:02:48 PM
You paid for a University of Phoenix MBA?  That's like the worst value degree from the worst value school
No. it was free, because I worked there. It’s credentialed too. I make mad $ now because of it.

were you a recruiter or something?  i'd be hard pressed to sleep at night...

anyway, i don't mean to crap on you too much
I recruit millionaire providers on the reg.
i meant were u a recruiter of students for UOP
Yes. I recruited students that were qualified
.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: dal9 on August 26, 2022, 09:09:19 PM
^but everyone is qualified for UPhx...it's just persuading people to give their money to a for-profit for a worthless degree...

anyway, i wish someone had recruited away the halfwit dentist i started going to...[redacted] "fixed" a filling i had no problem with in November and I've been in pain since
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 26, 2022, 09:39:28 PM
Get it back on track. 
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: nicname on August 26, 2022, 09:50:41 PM
A U of Phx MBA might not break down many doors in corporate America, which is less of an indictment of the school itself than of the elitist gatekeepers often in that circle, but the education received itself  can have great value in the workplace.

As for the loan forgiveness, the Pell Grant stipulation is a nice touch, and I agree that it won’t do much to help those truly in need. It also won’t mean much to the relatively high earners that might take advantage of it either.

My questions: where is the money coming from? And who will be footing the bill?

I don’t think it’s much more than a political ploy, but will still take part if I qualify. I have about $14 left to pay off of my own (mostly from a single semester at WSU just before covid), which I really don’t deserve forgiven.

Mrs Nicname and I have paid off ~$90k since 2020.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: wetwillie on August 26, 2022, 09:55:21 PM
Jerome ain’t going let them print a lot more so it probably will come in the form of taxes
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: nicname on August 26, 2022, 09:55:39 PM
He literally wanted to give me crap from day 1. Knocking my intelligence and girls I was “dating” at the time. This was like 10-12 years ago tho, now. He just ignores my posts knowing that he is playing dumb & single AF in his late 40’s.

Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate
Desperate to control all and everything
Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen

Clutch it like a cornerstone, otherwise it all comes down
Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end
Clutch it like a cornerstone, otherwise it all comes down
Terrified of being wrong, ultimatum prison cell

Saturn ascends
Choose one or ten
Hang on or be humbled again
Humbled again

Clutch it like a cornerstone, otherwise it all comes down
Justify denials and grip 'em to the lonesome end
Saturn ascends, comes round again
Saturn ascends, the one, the ten
Ignorant to the damage done

Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity
Calculate what we will or will not tolerate
Desperate to control all and everything
Unable to forgive these scarlet lettermen

Wear the grudge like a crown
Desperate to control
Unable to forgive and sinking deeper

Defining
Confining
And sinking deeper
Controlling
Defining
And we're sinking deeper

Saturn comes back around to show you everything
Let's you choose what you will and will not see and then
Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again
Spits you out like a child, light and innocent

Saturn comes back around
Lifts you up like a child
or drags you down like a stone
To consume you till you choose to let this go
Choose to let this go

Give away the stone
Let the oceans take and trans mutate this cold and fated anchor
Give away the stone
Let the waters kiss and trans mutate these leaden grudges into gold

Let goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on August 26, 2022, 10:14:44 PM
David Brooks/David French/Russell Moore kind of conservative* here

1. The biggest threat to democracy is on the right with so many on the right distrusting elections
2. Trump should be prosecuted
3. Climate Change is a problem that should be viewed as a human rights issue, and should be addressed globally and this effort should be lead by the largest industrialized nations
4. Once here, the path to citizenship should be pretty attainable for the average person
5. It should be pretty hard to buy a gun, and military style weapons should be banned
6. Executive branch has too much power**
7. We could probably reduce military spending by 50% and still be safe against foreign powers

*meaningless word
**both sides kinda suck at that
Agree with all of it, except point 7.  I am in favor of more military spending on DARPA type crap like space vehicles, drones, super fast missiles, AI, and quantum computing. 
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on August 26, 2022, 10:20:41 PM
I used to be against most military spending.  Not even the Middle East stuff for years changed my mind. The Chinese and Russians have convinced me we need to be striving to stay ahead on military tech, or they will eff around.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 27, 2022, 12:56:26 AM
A U of Phx MBA might not break down many doors in corporate America, which is less of an indictment of the school itself than of the elitist gatekeepers often in that circle, but the education received itself  can have great value in the workplace.

As for the loan forgiveness, the Pell Grant stipulation is a nice touch, and I agree that it won’t do much to help those truly in need. It also won’t mean much to the relatively high earners that might take advantage of it either.

My questions: where is the money coming from? And who will be footing the bill?

I don’t think it’s much more than a political ploy, but will still take part if I qualify. I have about $14 left to pay off of my own (mostly from a single semester at WSU just before covid), which I really don’t deserve forgiven.

Mrs Nicname and I have paid off ~$90k since 2020.

The money is coming from the US government, and the people footing the bill are the upper class, corporations, and the middle class with one or fewer children.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: dal9 on August 27, 2022, 12:14:07 PM
I still hire 70 year old dentist, because they can't retire on what they've made during said time.

lol.

if there's any justice in the world, the bum who has been mangling my tooth will never be able to retire
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on September 28, 2022, 11:40:10 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mcconnell-republicans-back-senates-post-jan-election-reform/story?id=90591377
Quote
McConnell and Republicans back Senate's post-Jan. 6 election reform bill
  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sys on September 28, 2022, 12:13:50 PM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on March 06, 2023, 10:15:01 AM
I agree with Trump on this:

https://www.businessinsider.com/raising-social-security-retirement-age-trump-bashes-republican-lawmakers-cpac-2023-3
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: bucket on November 14, 2023, 08:00:04 PM
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1724524144954380794

Agree with Nikki not Ron's crazy staffer.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: wetwillie on November 14, 2023, 08:46:38 PM
Damn, I hope this blog site isn't considered social media
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 15, 2023, 12:49:08 PM
Me:Chip :cheers:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1724850080098799653?s=20

Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Spracne on November 15, 2023, 01:53:30 PM
Me:Chip :cheers:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1724850080098799653?s=20

I'm not giving that blowhard obstructionist kudos. If you knew his full oeuvre, I bet you wouldn't, either. He sucks.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 15, 2023, 03:38:46 PM
Me:Chip :cheers:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1724850080098799653?s=20

I'm not giving that blowhard obstructionist kudos. If you knew his full oeuvre, I bet you wouldn't, either. He sucks.
I actually find him less dislikable than the Matt Gaetz, MTG, Boebert types. He appears to have actual beliefs rather than being 100% performative.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Spracne on November 15, 2023, 04:45:09 PM
Gaetz/MTG/Boebert is a particularly low bar ...
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: mocat on November 15, 2023, 10:12:56 PM
Me:Chip :cheers:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1724850080098799653?s=20

I'm not giving that blowhard obstructionist kudos. If you knew his full oeuvre, I bet you wouldn't, either. He sucks.
I actually find him less dislikable than the Matt Gaetz, MTG, Boebert types. He appears to have actual beliefs rather than being 100% performative.
More like mittstone outromney
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 29, 2023, 09:54:41 AM
https://apnews.com/article/oil-fossil-fuels-climate-change-biden-df27160fc81f28d21fbf1fc5575b77bc

apparently we all agree on drill baby drill
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: steve dave on November 29, 2023, 11:07:14 AM
I think Dems and Pubs can come together for the benefit of society if Dems come down harder on crime and Pubs come down harder on guns. Seems like a no brainer that nobody on the planet that I care about would disagree with. Obviously I've left every single detail of what hard on crimes and guns is but I'm a big picture guy folks.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 29, 2023, 11:44:49 AM
We should just get rid of guns and crime.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: CNS on November 29, 2023, 11:54:33 AM
We should just get rid of guns and crime.

You can take my crime when you pry it from my cold dead hands!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: mocat on November 29, 2023, 12:20:33 PM
what does "tough on crime" look like? smashing our own incarceration rate records?
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 29, 2023, 01:29:26 PM
It’s a pickle. #blueanon loves their boy, Pedo Pete noted multi decade racist and godfather of incarceration nation. 

While fully supporting soft on crime DA’s (until the crime starts hitting affluent #blueanon hoods and hangouts, or those migrants have the audacity to forget that #blueanon wasn’t serious about that sanctuary city stuff).


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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 29, 2023, 01:40:18 PM
Dark Brando is simultaneously soft and brutal on crime.  What an absolute unit
Title: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 29, 2023, 02:42:48 PM
#slowduggin- standing tall with his boy, the incarcerating racist and co-mingling the Senate/presidency with local DA’s.

#slowduggin-onbrand
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: steve dave on November 29, 2023, 09:23:40 PM
HENRY KISSINGER BEING A rough ridin' PIECE OF HUMAN crap
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Cire on November 30, 2023, 06:33:57 AM
https://twitter.com/pelhamfall/status/1730047873167827342?s=46&t=qihx_M5rao00w7e29gt7Rw


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Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: nicname on November 30, 2023, 08:30:21 AM
We should house the homeless
We should treat addiction like a disease
We should feed our poor
We should heal our sick
We should welcome the alien
We should not hoard wealth
We should pursue peace
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on November 30, 2023, 12:48:59 PM
Me:Chip :cheers:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1724850080098799653?s=20

https://twitter.com/LPDonovan/status/1730289863805514193?s=20
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 30, 2023, 04:52:07 PM
We should house the homeless
We should treat addiction like a disease
We should feed our poor
We should heal our sick
We should welcome the alien
We should not hoard wealth
We should pursue peace

nic if you sincerely believe all of those things then i think you might technically already be on the "other side"
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 30, 2023, 05:16:32 PM
We should house the homeless
We should treat addiction like a disease
We should feed our poor
We should heal our sick
We should welcome the alien
We should not hoard wealth
We should pursue peace

that is what Jesus believes
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2023, 05:17:21 PM
yeah that's some socialist bullshit
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 30, 2023, 05:23:51 PM
yeah that's some socialist bullshit

maybe so but is literally in the bible. 
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 30, 2023, 05:24:56 PM
yeah that's some socialist bullshit

maybe so but is literally in the bible.

i wish more right wingers agreed with stuff thats in the bible
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: CNS on November 30, 2023, 05:29:02 PM
yeah that's some socialist bullshit

maybe so but is literally in the bible.

You act like a bible can be opened.  Even if one could be opened, there is no way it could be read.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: kim carnes on November 30, 2023, 05:38:50 PM
We should house the homeless
We should treat addiction like a disease
We should feed our poor
We should heal our sick
We should welcome the alien
We should not hoard wealth
We should pursue peace

nic if you sincerely believe all of those things then i think you might technically already be on the "other side"

I got some news that’s going to blow your mind, we literally do all of those things
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Pete on November 30, 2023, 05:57:39 PM
We should house the homeless
We should treat addiction like a disease
We should feed our poor
We should heal our sick
We should welcome the alien
We should not hoard wealth
We should pursue peace

nic if you sincerely believe all of those things then i think you might technically already be on the "other side"

I got some news that’s going to blow your mind, we literally do all of those things
Tell us how we prevent wealth hording
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: nicname on November 30, 2023, 06:08:45 PM
For those things to be virtuous, they must be done of free will and out of the kindness of hearts; not thru coercion or violence.

For virtue to exist means cannot justify ends. Both means and ends must be virtuous.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: MadCat on December 01, 2023, 09:18:12 AM
I think we should force the homeless to have houses
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 01, 2023, 11:25:58 AM
Both sides agreeing to expel George Santos from the House is a tiny glimmer of hope!

https://twitter.com/LisaDNews/status/1730618365620761088?s=20
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Institutional Control on December 01, 2023, 11:54:38 AM
I like people that act like this is unprecedented because of "due process".  It's unprecedented because until recently, politicians would have resigned when a scandal 1/10th this bad became public knowledge.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: bucket on December 01, 2023, 12:11:49 PM
Both sides agreeing to expel George Santos from the House is a tiny glimmer of hope!

Both sides, my ass. Majority of Republicans didn’t vote to expel. Republican leadership didn’t vote to expel.
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 01, 2023, 12:18:10 PM
Both sides agreeing to expel George Santos from the House is a tiny glimmer of hope!

Both sides, my ass. Majority of Republicans didn’t vote to expel. Republican leadership didn’t vote to expel.
More than zero voted to expel. This is major progress.

All 3 Kansas 'pubs voted to expel!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: CNS on December 01, 2023, 03:28:56 PM
I want that man on every podcast tomorrow and a book by next week!

Time to talk crap and dirt!
Title: Re: Thread for things you agree with on the "other side"
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 01, 2023, 04:04:06 PM
I want that man on every podcast tomorrow and a book by next week!

Time to talk crap and dirt!

He'd be entertaining, but the dirt would be pretty useless, since you can't believe anything he says.