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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2800 on: September 15, 2024, 12:00:46 PM »
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2801 on: September 15, 2024, 12:01:14 PM »

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2802 on: September 15, 2024, 03:29:44 PM »
There is always going to be lots of money for going right wing for a journalist or media figure. You don’t often see the reverse for a reason.

they've moved through the center of the the horseshoe instead of crossing the poles, but there's a whole universe of media figures that moved left from normie 'pub to normie dem in the trump era.

I'm sorry, but I don't count on the Cheneys or William Kristol or the rest of the neocons to represent me or the Dems. They are making a calculated decision. That many neocons have found a more comfortable home with the dems, I think is alarming. The fact that Kamala is touting Dick Cheney's endorsement is much more cringey than Hillary's "I have the support of real billionaires" quote.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/15/liz-cheney-ginni-thomas-january-6-investigation

This should be a good reminder. But it isn't even this hard. Lyn Cheney campaigned against her own gay sister when she thought it would benefit her career. Why would anyone credit her with anything? She is a total freak and deserves scorn, booing, and shouts of "shame!" wherever she sets foot.


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2803 on: September 15, 2024, 03:52:59 PM »
kind of a weird comment.

you brought up the cheneys out of nowhere.  they aren't media figures and i don't think they would say they've moved left.  they've just endorsed harris because they think trump is a danger to the republic.  and in addition to the cheneys being a non sequitur to start with, viewing acknowledging someone's movement on a political axis as crediting them is odd.  tbh, that's indicative of some of the left's worst traits, imo.  a tendency to view their preferred policies as morally superior to those of their opposition.

kristol, oth, is a good example of someone who is a media figure and has moved left.
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2805 on: September 15, 2024, 04:24:11 PM »
This is the message!

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1835428192401670338

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1835416815293571473

(Using asterisks for "shooting" must be a weird engagement ploy that I can't help but read as "shitting")

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2806 on: September 15, 2024, 04:28:21 PM »
someone shot at him again?
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2807 on: September 15, 2024, 04:29:40 PM »
MAGAs are going all in on this being an actual "assassination attempt"

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2808 on: September 15, 2024, 04:31:01 PM »
kind of a weird comment.

you brought up the cheneys out of nowhere.  they aren't media figures and i don't think they would say they've moved left.  they've just endorsed harris because they think trump is a danger to the republic.  and in addition to the cheneys being a non sequitur to start with, viewing acknowledging someone's movement on a political axis as crediting them is odd.  tbh, that's indicative of some of the left's worst traits, imo.  a tendency to view their preferred policies as morally superior to those of their opposition.

kristol, oth, is a good example of someone who is a media figure and has moved left.
Doesn’t everyone view their preferred policies as morally superior?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2809 on: September 15, 2024, 04:34:30 PM »
someone shot at him again?

There were shots on his golf course but he wasn't around, from what I understand
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2810 on: September 15, 2024, 04:39:37 PM »
Why do people want to kill Trump so bad
When the bullets are flying, that's when I'm at my best

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2811 on: September 15, 2024, 04:44:14 PM »
Why do people want to kill Trump so bad

Because of the Dems

And it sounds like maybe only the secret service fired?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2812 on: September 15, 2024, 04:45:02 PM »
From what I can tell, this guy was legally open carrying in an area where his scoped long gun would be able to hit Trump, so the secret service shot at him. He dropped his gun and drove off, but was later apprehended.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2813 on: September 15, 2024, 04:50:10 PM »
And I don't know what the Dems expected. If you keep calling a man weird, someone is going to try to shoot him. It's only natural.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2814 on: September 15, 2024, 05:02:38 PM »
Doesn’t everyone view their preferred policies as morally superior?

yeah, i didn't articulate that well.  progressives have an increased tendency towards this normal human failing.
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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« Reply #2815 on: September 15, 2024, 05:03:29 PM »
kind of a weird comment.

you brought up the cheneys out of nowhere.  they aren't media figures and i don't think they would say they've moved left.  they've just endorsed harris because they think trump is a danger to the republic.  and in addition to the cheneys being a non sequitur to start with, viewing acknowledging someone's movement on a political axis as crediting them is odd.  tbh, that's indicative of some of the left's worst traits, imo.  a tendency to view their preferred policies as morally superior to those of their opposition.

kristol, oth, is a good example of someone who is a media figure and has moved left.
Well Liz Cheney isn’t in Congress, and Dick is no longer VO they are both largely media figures to varying degrees at this point I would say. Kamala touted Dick’s endorsement several times and it seemed topical.

Again, maybe crediting is the wrong word. What is a political endorsement? A vouching for someone who will represent the principles that both people espouse. I would guess most people who make political judgements do so with at least some sort of moral calculus, so the “moral superiority” part being something “the left” does exclusively or more would probably benefit from some more said because I don’t know how I could agree.

I haven’t followed William Kritsol’s career closely but again, speaking of moral superiority, these people were quite happy to build Bush’s entire re-election campaign on a series of constitutional amendments at the state level to ban gay marriage and the war in Iraq. So again, I haven’t forgotten that and I certainly feel like I can point it out and also feel comfortable asserting that I don’t share their values and that they are big time pieces of crap.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2816 on: September 15, 2024, 05:12:00 PM »
Doesn’t everyone view their preferred policies as morally superior?

yeah, i didn't articulate that well.  progressives have an increased tendency towards this normal human failing.
Ah, ok didn’t see this before response so probably came off more snarky than needed

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2817 on: September 15, 2024, 05:13:48 PM »
liz cheney, i guess does some talking head hits for the cable news channels?  not entirely sure, but i think i've seen clips of her more frequently than one might otherwise expect of a retired pol.  dick cheney, i don't think even does that.  they have both been very clear about not having moved left and were explicit that endorsing harris was solely based on the danger trump represents, not because they share political goals with harris.

"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2818 on: September 15, 2024, 05:15:39 PM »
And I don't know what the Dems expected. If you keep calling a man weird, someone is going to try to shoot him. It's only natural.
When gE has a 426 page LOL Trump thread, no one should be shocked by the resulting violence.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2819 on: September 15, 2024, 05:16:14 PM »
Doesn’t everyone view their preferred policies as morally superior?

yeah, i didn't articulate that well.  progressives have an increased tendency towards this normal human failing.
Ah, ok didn’t see this before response so probably came off more snarky than needed

i still don't feel like i've articulated it well, but i do think there is something of the observation that is true.
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2820 on: September 15, 2024, 05:40:34 PM »
Based on the would-be-shooter's Twitter, I don't think he's very mentally stable.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2821 on: September 15, 2024, 05:44:40 PM »
Doesn’t everyone view their preferred policies as morally superior?

yeah, i didn't articulate that well.  progressives have an increased tendency towards this normal human failing.
Ah, ok didn’t see this before response so probably came off more snarky than needed

i still don't feel like i've articulated it well, but i do think there is something of the observation that is true.

I understand what you’re trying to say, not sure why everyone else is struggling

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2822 on: September 15, 2024, 05:50:23 PM »
She’s really doubling down on her price gouging plans in ads here in socal

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2823 on: September 15, 2024, 05:51:57 PM »

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #2824 on: September 15, 2024, 06:06:35 PM »