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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #550 on: July 14, 2024, 05:42:45 PM »
Shooter was a 20 year old registered republican white male. This will be a very interesting process.
Where are you seeing this?
CNN, BBC, etc. The FBI has already released his name.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/trump-shooting-thomas-matthew-crooks-intl-hnk/index.html

Who donated to Act Blue multiple times

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Crooks made a $15 donation to the liberal ActBlue political action committee on Jan. 20, 2021 — the day of President Biden’s Inauguration Day, when he was 17 years old, The Intercept reported.
Damned internet!

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-gunman-who-tried-to-assassinate-trump-at-pa-rally/

While I know the post is always accurate and diligence is of upmost importance to them, it's been disputed if the person who donated is actually a guy in his 60's with the same name. Who knows  :dunno:

https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1812543831889313897?t=b33Sb5kc4eKYqFAYSTgnCA&s=19
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #551 on: July 14, 2024, 05:45:32 PM »
Nobody jumps into action faster than #blueanon to run cover for their shooters/pedophiles/grifters/racists

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #552 on: July 14, 2024, 05:46:29 PM »

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #553 on: July 14, 2024, 05:47:49 PM »
While it is fascinating to speculate whether the shooter was right or left wing or how the cops let him get on the roof or how the Republicans are now very concerned with fiery language, this is really about being a country where we think it's important to have weapons like AR-15s for any citizen that wants one.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #554 on: July 14, 2024, 05:49:04 PM »
Oh, so it's just about the guns now.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #555 on: July 14, 2024, 05:53:33 PM »
Shooter was a 20 year old registered republican white male. This will be a very interesting process.
Where are you seeing this?
CNN, BBC, etc. The FBI has already released his name.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/trump-shooting-thomas-matthew-crooks-intl-hnk/index.html

Who donated to Act Blue multiple times

Doesn't look to be true

Oops

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Crooks made a $15 donation to the liberal ActBlue political action committee on Jan. 20, 2021 — the day of President Biden’s Inauguration Day, when he was 17 years old, The Intercept reported.
Damned internet!

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-gunman-who-tried-to-assassinate-trump-at-pa-rally/
Even taken at face value, it identifies a single donation, not multiple, as you claim.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #556 on: July 14, 2024, 06:03:49 PM »
The good news for #blueanon is that Pedo Pete took a minute from stoking the fires of rage towards Republicans to have a conference call with the Democratic caucus and by all accounts it was an unmitigated disaster. With Pedo Pete being his usual raged up old man self . . . and it featured him reading a note handed to him by staffers out loud. A note telling him to calm down.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #557 on: July 14, 2024, 06:28:26 PM »
Friendly fire from a gop gun nut.  What a wild world we live in.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #558 on: July 14, 2024, 06:42:30 PM »
I read an AP article quoting a classmate saying the shooter tried to join the school rifle team but was turned away because he was a bad shot. I’m not making that up.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #559 on: July 14, 2024, 06:51:34 PM »
Looks like they were justified in turning him down
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #560 on: July 14, 2024, 07:07:56 PM »
From what I have read about the kid, he seems to fit the profile of a school shooter a whole lot more than he does some sort of political crazy. I'm guessing if school were in session, this probably doesn't happen.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #561 on: July 14, 2024, 08:00:05 PM »
I read an AP article quoting a classmate saying the shooter tried to join the school rifle team but was turned away because he was a bad shot. I’m not making that up.

that's legitimately very funny.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #562 on: July 14, 2024, 08:23:32 PM »
Donald Trump might win 40 states

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #563 on: July 14, 2024, 10:10:19 PM »
From what I have read about the kid, he seems to fit the profile of a school shooter a whole lot more than he does some sort of political crazy. I'm guessing if school were in session, this probably doesn't happen.
That’s a horrible thing to say, and exactly what I was thinking.

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« Reply #564 on: July 14, 2024, 10:25:15 PM »
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #565 on: July 14, 2024, 11:02:14 PM »
Yeah, I was thinking similar. Like, you guys realize that this is exactly what the Second Amendment angle you're always preaching is all about, right?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #566 on: July 15, 2024, 01:47:11 AM »
Shooter was a 20 year old registered republican white male. This will be a very interesting process.
Where are you seeing this?
CNN, BBC, etc. The FBI has already released his name.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/trump-shooting-thomas-matthew-crooks-intl-hnk/index.html

Who donated to Act Blue multiple times

Doesn't look to be true

Oops

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Crooks made a $15 donation to the liberal ActBlue political action committee on Jan. 20, 2021 — the day of President Biden’s Inauguration Day, when he was 17 years old, The Intercept reported.
Damned internet!

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-gunman-who-tried-to-assassinate-trump-at-pa-rally/
Even taken at face value, it identifies a single donation, not multiple, as you claim.

And even taken at face value, it was a well publicized tactic to register Republican to swing primaries, in particular in PA

That the discussion appears to be about political identity ad(oh thank god not my guy) instead of how TF was there so many massive breakdowns in security should have told me all I needed to know.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #567 on: July 15, 2024, 08:07:08 AM »
It appears most likely that the shooter was motivated by looking for an interesting suicide.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #568 on: July 15, 2024, 08:21:30 AM »
Still can't believe we were an inch away from Donald getting his head blown off. Really glad that didn't happen.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #569 on: July 15, 2024, 08:36:29 AM »
Still can't believe we were an inch away from Donald getting his head blown off. Really glad that didn't happen.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #570 on: July 15, 2024, 08:40:32 AM »
Shooter was a 20 year old registered republican white male. This will be a very interesting process.
Where are you seeing this?
CNN, BBC, etc. The FBI has already released his name.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/14/us/trump-shooting-thomas-matthew-crooks-intl-hnk/index.html

Who donated to Act Blue multiple times

Doesn't look to be true

Oops

Quote
Crooks made a $15 donation to the liberal ActBlue political action committee on Jan. 20, 2021 — the day of President Biden’s Inauguration Day, when he was 17 years old, The Intercept reported.
Damned internet!

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-gunman-who-tried-to-assassinate-trump-at-pa-rally/
Even taken at face value, it identifies a single donation, not multiple, as you claim.

And even taken at face value, it was a well publicized tactic to register Republican to swing primaries, in particular in PA

That the discussion appears to be about political identity ad(oh thank god not my guy) instead of how TF was there so many massive breakdowns in security should have told me all I needed to know.

Sleep tight knowing it wasn’t ’your Guy’ nor ‘your candidate’ and be damned with realizing that is about as meaningful as bed time stories
So you believe his former classmate is lying that he always lined up on the conservative side of the room while everyone else lined up on the liberal side?
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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #571 on: July 15, 2024, 08:43:36 AM »
While it is fascinating to speculate whether the shooter was right or left wing or how the cops let him get on the roof or how the Republicans are now very concerned with fiery language, this is really about being a country where we think it's important to have weapons like AR-15s for any citizen that wants one.
I mean, the best security detail in the world doesn't equal enough "good guys with guns" to keep a person safe in this country. At this point, what value is our society getting in exchange for private individuals having totally unfettered access to military weaponry?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #572 on: July 15, 2024, 08:44:15 AM »
I really hope and pray (seriously) that Trump uses this moment and his second term to bring more voters to his side by focusing less on scare tactics and demonizing and more on touting how everyone could benefit from a given policy.  For example, would love to see what he could do  if he felt like he didn’t need to pander at all to the religious far right.

Is it too much to ask for him to be more like George Bush senior and less like Rush Limbaugh in his second term?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Race
« Reply #573 on: July 15, 2024, 08:46:12 AM »
How about zero cultural war stuff and just stomp the gas on the economy and infrastructure (namely energy).

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« Reply #574 on: July 15, 2024, 08:46:54 AM »
I really hope and pray (seriously) that Trump uses this moment and his second term to bring more voters to his side by focusing less on scare tactics and demonizing and more on touting how everyone could benefit from a given policy.  For example, would love to see what he could do  if he felt like he didn’t need to pander at all to the religious far right.

Is it too much to ask for him to be more like George Bush senior and less like Rush Limbaugh in his second term?
This is an impossible ask. Every time Trump has been given the opportunity to do better he has degenerated into a shittier and more divisive person. I have zero hope that this this will make him less terrible.