Possible WW3 thread

[Spracne]

It's always DeflectoCope (insert day here) with #neocongE/#blueanongE

There is a certain aggressive detachment with reality that makes dax such a perfect maga.  You tell him the sky is blue and he will scream himself to death that there is no sky and if there were it is actually the ground.

I'm more concerned about him not being oriented to time and place. That's a big red flag.

[sonofdaxjones]

Fantastic stuff from the prolific community of resident not knowers aka #neocongE aka #blueanongE

[Dugout DickStone]

drowning in dementia

[sonofdaxjones]

Just a reminder as the thread devolves into DeflectoCope Wednesday.

That prior to fully embracing #neoconism, ProgLibs and Fake Centrists absolutely lost their ever loving crap about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and continually made analogies to the needs here at home as opposed to the copious resources that were being chewed up to support those wars. 

That all began to change when one of their (alleged) own took over and starting bombing the eff out of even more countries.

It took a brief respite when the #neocons weren't in control anymore, and they tried to convince everyone and parroted the absolute insanity that Trump was going to start WWIII. 

This was solely driven by the fact that 1.  There was a little less bombing the crap out of everything going on.  2. There wasn't active pursuit of net new wars  3.  That #neocons wouldn't be fully in charge of the bombing, strafing, droning and general mayhem

Now that ProgLibs and Fake Centrists have gone (back to) full #neocon/#neocongE and have no tolerance for anyone questioning their beloved perpetual war(s).   

Well, there was the time he mused about nuking North Korea and blaming someone else.

I do not recall that, but I do recall the absolute meltdown over the droning of the Iranian general in Iraq.  The saddest part of all was #blueanon trying to paint a picture that the United States was going to get annihilated by Iran, as I recall Nancy OxyGin Pelosi lead that charge.

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It's always DeflectoCope (insert day here) with #neocongE/#blueanongE

There is a certain aggressive detachment with reality that makes dax such a perfect maga.  You tell him the sky is blue and he will scream himself to death that there is no sky and if there were it is actually the ground.

[sonofdaxjones]

Keeping in mind that certain members of the Sisterhood of the Traveling Deflectocopers have delusional fantasies about cos-playing, MAGAblasting and playing Team Locked and Loaded with the boys. 

[bucket]

It's always DeflectoCope (insert day here) with #neocongE/#blueanongE

There is a certain aggressive detachment with reality that makes dax such a perfect maga.  You tell him the sky is blue and he will scream himself to death that there is no sky and if there were it is actually the ground.

Dax would pick a fight with the sky if he didn't like its shade of blue.

[sonofdaxjones]

#blueanongE/#neocongE if given a choice between tossing a love one in front of a car or defending The Grifters Biden . . .

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#blueanongE/#neocongE if given a choice between tossing a love one in front of a car or defending The Grifters Biden . . .

I think you mixed some words up.

[Spracne]

#blueanongE/#neocongE if given a choice between tossing a love one in front of a car or defending The Grifters Biden . . .

I think you mixed some words up.

He doesn't even know what day it is. Stop being mean to him. That will just force him to vote for Trump.

[sonofdaxjones]

#blogkaren - defending his Grifters Biden with zeal 24/7/365

[catastrophe]

What’s sad is Russia could stop Zelensky’s and Biden’s grift at any moment and yet they refuse because they love rape and murder too damn much.

[sonofdaxjones]

Ukrainians love those things as well, particularly the ultra-nationalist Ukrainians.

[sonofdaxjones]

While I'm 5 days overdue, let's take a moment to remember Bill Clinton's wag the dog missile strike on the Sudanese pharmaceutical plant 25 years ago.  Based on the most absurd "intelligence" and not grounded in anything that resembled reality.  But, Bill the rapist (and generational #blueanon hero) had a blue dress problem. 

[LickNeckey]

5 weeks overdue on a post about a 25 year old missile strike that has next to nothing to do with the topic at hand


great post dax!!!

[Dugout DickStone]

It's always DeflectoCope (insert day here) with #neocongE/#blueanongE

There is a certain aggressive detachment with reality that makes dax such a perfect maga.  You tell him the sky is blue and he will scream himself to death that there is no sky and if there were it is actually the ground.

I'm more concerned about him not being oriented to time and place. That's a big red flag.

He is defintely NOT a 15 on the GCS

[Dugout DickStone]

5 weeks overdue on a post about a 25 year old missile strike that has next to nothing to do with the topic at hand


great post dax!!!

tbf in his world Clinton was president about a year ago. 

[sonofdaxjones]

I know #neocongE are collectively massive derps.

Various commissions sought to downplay the blow back portion of Clinton's ridiculous strike.  The argument for the nonsense was that AQ was buying poison gas from that facility.

Non U.S. #neocon observers believe the stupid attack further solidified in the minds of OBL and company that the United States needed to be taught a lesson.

Now, if #neocongE wants to believe that we are not still feeling the long term impact of the "war on terror", far be it from me to get in the way such massive stupidity. 

[Dugout DickStone]

What’s sad is Russia could stop Zelensky’s and Biden’s grift at any moment and yet they refuse because they love rape and murder too damn much.

Is it possible they love grooming so much they will never shut down the grifters Biden?  scary if true

[MakeItRain]

@Chingon what do we have to do around here to get an imbed feature for X

Get the people posting the tweets to simply replace the x with www.twitter

[Kat Kid]

The lack of developments out of Ukraine are glaring.

Very few updates even being posted anymore on FT, NYT has no stories on the counter-offensive, WaPo has Prighozian news but then two Op-Eds that caught my eye.

Ignatius -- "How the US sees Ukraine's push: No stalemate, but no breakthrough"

Ignatius concedes that this conflict will go well in to 2024, that there is no hope of Ukraine making much progress before winter and describes the US officials arguing for new tactics in the counter offensive to conserve artillery ammunition. The now much discussed problems with advancing into fortified, mined Russian positions and have meant Ukrane's new strategy is to hit Russia in Russian territory and Crimea. The F-16s wont make a difference for a long time and the new (probably real reason all along) reason for not giving Ukraine longer range missiles is to not have the stockpile drained to maintain readiness for a war with China.

Boot --  "Ukraine is crossing Russia's 'red lines' with impunity. It's a lesson for Biden.
 
Ukraine has crossed previous "red lines" like drone attacks on Moscow and Putin hasn't done anything, so why not give Ukraine F-16's, ATACMS, and challenge Russia's blockade of the Black Sea with NATO/US ships?

As this conflict has dragged on there have been plenty of opportunities for people to be wrong.

I was wrong when Putin actually invaded, a stunningly stupid and reckless decision. I was wrong when I thought Russia would quickly win as I watched Ukraine valiantly and heroically push back Russian forces and save Kyiv and then push back Russia even further, re-taking huge swathes of territory. I was wrong about Putin's willingness to escalate the war and play brinkmanship with NATO, for now.

I would like to hear what people think is happening and what the next steps and likely outcome could/should be.

[Woogy]

From a Mike Martin (https://www.threshedthought.com/) X thread on pretty much this line of thought.  He's been pretty levelheaded and clear eyed about the hot portion of the war. I linked it mid thread, you can scroll back to take it from the top.

https://twitter.com/ThreshedThought/status/1696099500685726183


This seems to be very achievable.  As he explains, UA doesn't have to occupy that area, rather force RU to abandon it. Raising a flag on a beach of the Sea of Azov would be an incredible PR victory, but it isn't tactically necessary. 

Russia/Putin's only interest is in keeping the grinder going to stalemate, further consolidate contested territory, and try to reboot subversion methods (in UA as well as NATO/West) to isolate and weaken UA from within in order to take another bite sometime down the road.

RU put the winter pause to very effective use building defenses, and have now sacked the strategist behind doing so. 

For what they're fighting with (or more accurately without - air support) UA *is* doing well.  They're quite able to stand behind the phrase "I am not locked in here with you, rather you are locked in here with me."  They seem to be bringing some of their own advanced weapons system online.  That's another thing - this is a type of warfare not seen before, so there is a lot of educated guessing going on.

It is simply not in Putin's persona to end the war now.  It's his magnum opus, and he can't make himself walk away from it.  His best immediate option is stalemate, but even then, he needs the hot war to cool off a bit in order to stay politically and biologically viable.

[Cire]

UKR is having succes in the South and Russia is having to commit their best reserves to stop the bleeding but UKR captured robotyne within the last few days and is still moving.

HIMARS have forced Russia's supply hubs to be kept way behind their lines.  Currently the new artilery is out distancing Russia's as well.  The F16's will be a big deal because S-400's will be HIMARS meat if they turn their radars on.

[Cire]

When I see/read a lot of MSM doomsdaying the slowness of the offensive, they typically point out the russian defense lines maps that are essentially the satalite visible lines of fortifications.

But many analysts don't act super concerned about those because many of those aren't manned the same way and UKR isn't trying to go through Dragons teeth anyhow.

EX https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1696564228331655559?s=20

[Kat Kid]

When I see/read a lot of MSM doomsdaying the slowness of the offensive, they typically point out the russian defense lines maps that are essentially the satalite visible lines of fortifications.

But many analysts don't act super concerned about those because many of those aren't manned the same way and UKR isn't trying to go through Dragons teeth anyhow.

EX https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1696564228331655559?s=20

I can’t read the Twitter crap because Elon is a moron, but I think the main problem is the mines.