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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7000 on: June 24, 2023, 10:53:55 AM »
So what’s the deal with this Wagner thing? Blip on the radar and the Russian forces put them down in a few weeks?
Most likely saber rattling and the Wagner group is angry at the Russian Ministry of Defense for what they claim was a deliberate attack on them. However, will state no one knows for sure what will happen here but it’s growing more likely they reach Moscow. The Russian Army is fairly interconnected with Wagner so which side of loyalty will they be is another question.

Is there a reliable twitter account(s) I can follow for decent updates?
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7001 on: June 24, 2023, 11:03:42 AM »
@tendar is definitely pro Ukraine but has had multiple updates that have been verified by other sources

interesting follow requiring lots of grains of salt

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7002 on: June 24, 2023, 11:05:20 AM »
@visegrad24 is another with similar constraints

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7003 on: June 24, 2023, 11:09:00 AM »
So what’s the deal with this Wagner thing? Blip on the radar and the Russian forces put them down in a few weeks?
Most likely saber rattling and the Wagner group is angry at the Russian Ministry of Defense for what they claim was a deliberate attack on them. However, will state no one knows for sure what will happen here but it’s growing more likely they reach Moscow. The Russian Army is fairly interconnected with Wagner so which side of loyalty will they be is another question.

Is there a reliable twitter account(s) I can follow for decent updates?
@radiofreetom Tom Nichols is good too.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7004 on: June 24, 2023, 11:16:37 AM »
Damn that was wild catching up on this thread
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7005 on: June 24, 2023, 11:35:08 AM »
As much of a batshit crazy dictator Putin is, I'm not sure that Russia being completely destabilized is good, at all. It's not like the Wagner group are champions of democracy.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7006 on: June 24, 2023, 11:49:27 AM »
@tendar is definitely pro Ukraine but has had multiple updates that have been verified by other sources

interesting follow requiring lots of grains of salt
So what’s the deal with this Wagner thing? Blip on the radar and the Russian forces put them down in a few weeks?
Most likely saber rattling and the Wagner group is angry at the Russian Ministry of Defense for what they claim was a deliberate attack on them. However, will state no one knows for sure what will happen here but it’s growing more likely they reach Moscow. The Russian Army is fairly interconnected with Wagner so which side of loyalty will they be is another question.

Is there a reliable twitter account(s) I can follow for decent updates?
@radiofreetom Tom Nichols is good too.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7007 on: June 24, 2023, 11:52:45 AM »

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7008 on: June 24, 2023, 12:26:36 PM »
Putin is a scrub but if anyone thinks our government wants a civil war in Russia you are an idiot.  We were plenty happy to let him stay mired in Ukraine

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7009 on: June 24, 2023, 12:28:08 PM »
@tendar is definitely pro Ukraine but has had multiple updates that have been verified by other sources

interesting follow requiring lots of grains of salt

This guy is quite the hype man lol.  He’s living his best life on twitter right now
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7010 on: June 24, 2023, 12:46:44 PM »
Civil War ceasefire

How the hell is that going to shake out

Does the chef think he has enough political and military clout to pull this off in a non combatant fashion?

Can't really return to the status quo at this point

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7011 on: June 24, 2023, 01:11:18 PM »
Civil War ceasefire

How the hell is that going to shake out

Does the chef think he has enough political and military clout to pull this off in a non combatant fashion?

Can't really return to the status quo at this point

Unless the whole thing was a ruse ...

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7012 on: June 24, 2023, 03:23:20 PM »

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7013 on: June 24, 2023, 03:24:44 PM »
Civil War ceasefire

How the hell is that going to shake out

Does the chef think he has enough political and military clout to pull this off in a non combatant fashion?

Can't really return to the status quo at this point

Unless the whole thing was a ruse ...

I can't figure out how that is helpful to Russia, at all.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7015 on: June 24, 2023, 03:41:07 PM »

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7016 on: June 24, 2023, 04:28:35 PM »
Apparently the chef accepting exile in Belarus?

Wild.

People in Rostov apparently taking to the streets to protest return of Russian authority.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7017 on: June 24, 2023, 04:47:09 PM »
The whole world is a stage.

There are no good guys.

They’re all evil, just different flavors.

MIR is right, we don’t want a Putin replacement.


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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7018 on: June 24, 2023, 04:49:15 PM »
Odd time to invoke Shakespeare.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7019 on: June 24, 2023, 05:06:09 PM »
Doesn’t matter what we want. Putin won’t be around much longer one way or another.
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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7020 on: June 24, 2023, 06:09:48 PM »
Civil War ceasefire

How the hell is that going to shake out

Does the chef think he has enough political and military clout to pull this off in a non combatant fashion?

Can't really return to the status quo at this point

Unless the whole thing was a ruse ...

I can't figure out how that is helpful to Russia, at all.
Best I could figure would be that this guy was set up to be a symbol of unrest throughout Russia’s ranks and that by this dude agreeing to stand down, it signals to other troops that their concerns have been addressed and they can go back to blissfully fighting for the motherland.

Alternative ruse explanation is hoping that Ukraine tried/tries to launch a major offensive to take advantage of the diversion and walks into an ambush.

That one would seem incredibly far fetched (and flat out dumb knowing the best intelligence in the world is on Ukraine’s side).

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7021 on: June 24, 2023, 11:21:10 PM »
#neocongE in a nutshell.

Sorry you didn’t get your dystopian Russian rogue actor state so you guys could uncase your MAGABlaster 2000’s and cosplay

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7022 on: June 25, 2023, 12:52:23 AM »
MIR is right, we don’t want a Putin replacement.

No sir. That is absolutely positively NOT what I said, not even a little bit. What I said was the Wagner group taking control likely would have been just as bad, if not worse. We absolutely want a Putin replacement, just not the Wagner group.

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7023 on: June 25, 2023, 08:17:37 AM »
less deaths than the J6 coup at least

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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #7024 on: June 25, 2023, 11:03:00 AM »
Yeah, they didn’t even forcibly enter their legislature