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Re: Possible WW3 thread
« Reply #6050 on: February 26, 2023, 10:29:08 AM »
$10 million dollars from one of the most corrupt countries on the planet being laundered through the fake foundation of a sitting U.S. Senator and ultimately Sec. of State is just no big deal cus I can do math . . . #slowdug

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I love that in your world $670k a year is a ton of money.  Have you ever flown on an aer-o-plane?  They go way up in the sky!!

Nothing  :curse: :curse: up the simp brained #neocon more than asking why the people they voted for early and often were and are buried so deep in one of the most corrupt countries on the planet.

How many extra tens of millions did the Clinton's lose by her loss in 2016?  No wonder she hates Putin so much, and wants WWIII so bad (and has for decades).  Even though Russian oligarchs and their proxies have funneled millions into her fake foundation. 

Sunday with simp brained #deflectoconDug continues




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« Reply #6051 on: February 26, 2023, 10:40:08 AM »
We should do a reaction video where I show dax an IRL $100 bill and he starts squealing and clapping his hands

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« Reply #6052 on: February 26, 2023, 10:47:10 AM »
We should do a reaction video where I show dax an IRL $100 bill and he starts squealing and clapping his hands

 :lol: :lol:

Doesn't have the slightest clue about the progression of those donations, but he's gonna roll in with averages  :lol: :lol:

Nothing gets the neocongE'r more  :curse: :curse: then people saying mean things about their favorite war mongering grifter, who is still working the talk show circuit calling for WWIII in the Year of our Flying Spaghetti Monster 2023


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« Reply #6053 on: February 26, 2023, 10:50:54 AM »
 :curse: :curse: :curse:

"I plan to meet Xi Jinping and believe this will be beneficial for our countries and for security in the world," Zelensky


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« Reply #6054 on: February 26, 2023, 11:01:55 AM »
or dax and I go to restaurants where you don't fill your drink up at the pepsi fountain before you sit down and he immediately calls his friends to tall them about.

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« Reply #6055 on: February 26, 2023, 11:06:29 AM »
or dax and I go to restaurants where you don't fill your drink up at the pepsi fountain before you sit down and he immediately calls his friends to tall them about.

Oh goodness . . .  :lol:




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« Reply #6056 on: February 26, 2023, 11:33:21 AM »
He's just trying to daxflect from that extremely embarrassing takedown of his pro-putin ball licking
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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« Reply #6057 on: February 26, 2023, 12:36:33 PM »
The simp brained #neoconge’r lashes out when asked about why their leaders have taken millions from one of the most corrupt countries on the planet while they held the highest positions in these United States.

Then tries to claim some rando #neocon took me down while reading like a prepubescent child playing COD.

The Putin Puppet narrative plays easily in the mush brained world of the armchair #neocon

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« Reply #6058 on: February 26, 2023, 12:43:20 PM »
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« Reply #6059 on: February 26, 2023, 12:45:15 PM »
I show him my master bath that has a bathtub AND a shower not a bathtub that turns into a shower.  He falls to his knees and weeps at the sight

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« Reply #6060 on: February 26, 2023, 01:21:56 PM »
I take him to seats at a sporting even that don't require binoculars to see the field.  He loudly declares "these must be cartel seats" at least 5 times before halftime

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« Reply #6061 on: February 26, 2023, 02:19:28 PM »
Sunday gibberish with #slowdug

The simple brained #neocon leads and ends with Putin Puppet


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« Reply #6062 on: February 26, 2023, 02:27:19 PM »
Is this the same Nick Catoggio who "wrote" under the  pseudonym AllahPundit and worked for Michelle Malkin at Hot Air?

Edit . . . it is.  I mean  :lol: :lol: :lol:







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« Reply #6063 on: February 26, 2023, 03:38:18 PM »
On Thursday critic David Sims published his review in The Atlantic of Hollywood’s newest monster movie, a film he didn’t much like. One problem, he wrote, is that he couldn’t find any useful metaphors in a story about a bear in the woods that becomes intoxicated and sets off on a rampage, killing everyone in sight.

Really? I can think of one. (How Original!!)

A year on from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the most arresting fact about the war remains that it was caused by a single man’s intoxication. The Financial Times alleged this week that practically everyone in Vladimir Putin’s orbit, up to and including his own foreign minister, didn’t believe he would give the order to attack until the order was given. Maybe that’s a case of the Times’ Russian sources rewriting history to remove their own fingerprints from a project gone disastrously wrong, but the details about Putin getting lethally high on his own supply of propaganda jibe with years of Western analysis about what motivates him.

Why, listen to this promising, clear-eyed young Republican congressman assess the threat in 2017.

    Here is a short clip of then Congressman Ron DeSantis speaking clearly about Putin and arming Ukraine.

    This interview was conducted at my alma mater @EmbryRiddle on 4/17/2017.

    Any of this sound familiar @HypocriLib?

    H/T @RLHeinrichs

    Please share. pic.twitter.com/pOcHNS0tIS
    — Mr. Johnson 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 (@MrJohnson860) February 24, 2023

The FT piece bears out his analysis about Putin wanting to reconstitute Russia’s imperial glory. Despite warnings from aides in the days before the invasion that the army in its present state wasn’t fit to reconquer Ukraine, the czar pressed ahead. Reportedly he had spent months during the pandemic holed up with nationalist cronies who kept whispering in his ear that it was his destiny to remake Russia’s borders. (unnamed sources are welcomed when it fits the neocon narrative0

After the decision to invade was announced, one frightened Russian oligarch asked the foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, how Putin could have planned a major war with so few people—Lavrov included—in the know. “He has three advisers,” Lavrov replied, according to the FT. “Ivan the Terrible. Peter the Great. And Catherine the Great.”

Opinions may differ, but I’d rather have a fascist with a nuclear arsenal getting high on cocaine than on revanchist grandeur. (shock and awe, Viagra enraged rape squads, yellow cake, North Vietnamese patrol boats, incubator babies, WMD’s and Saddam and Al Qaeda are joined at the hip?)

Russia’s war has cost Ukraine tens of thousands of human lives and trillions of dollars in damage and lost economic output. But on the first anniversary of the invasion, I find myself thinking of the moral damage Putin has done to his own allies, foreign and domestic. In the end, his inebriation will have wrecked more than one country.  (Putin’s allies don’t seem to be very morally damaged, this is drivel for the small #neocon brain)

If you need reminding of how wanton the destruction of Ukraine has been and continues to be, log into social media at any time and wait. Something will scroll by in short order that knocks you sideways.

We’re many months removed from Putin executing anything resembling a strategic plan to unseat Zelensky’s government. Lately the conflict has devolved into pointless battles aimed at nothing more than proving that Russia can still gain ground, at horrendous cost, and indiscriminate attacks on cities and infrastructure designed to make life as painful and terrifying for Ukrainians as possible. (the negotiating table looks better and better every day, and looked positively fantastic 13 months ago. Just like Zelensky wanted to do when he was elected)

Even the fantasist in the Kremlin has probably faced the reality by now that he won’t pacify Ukraine long-term. In Putin’s realistic best-case scenario, the West throws in the towel on providing weapons and the Russian army slowly grinds its way through Ukraine’s undersupplied forces. After hundreds of thousands more casualties on both sides, Putin finally extinguishes what’s left of a formal military opponent. At that point, to avert an insurgency against his depleted occupation force, he’ll need to somehow convince Ukrainians to get excited about being absorbed into a country that’s spent years killing its sons and raping its daughters. (there’s an indigenous population of hundreds of thousands who spent years suffering from the work of UkroNationalists)
He’ll have his work cut out for him.

That same poll found Ukrainians’ faith in their country’s institutions soaring from pre-war levels and, amazingly, found their interest in emigrating declining despite the hardships of war. Putin’s casus belli last year alleged that Russians and Ukrainians are culturally one people and should rightly be reunited, by force if necessary. A year later, he’s made ardent Ukrainian patriots out of nearly all of his victims.

And he’s transformed Russia in the process.

It feels strange to think that Russian civil society might be growing more depraved—when is it not?—but the pace of it since the war began has been dramatic. Recently the New York Times described the country’s devolution from a soft fascist state that pays lip service to certain liberal ideals to a harder fascist version that revels in militarism and illiberalism. (This is based on what reality?)

    Museums and theaters, which remained islands of artistic freedom during previous crackdowns, have seen that special status evaporate, their antiwar performers and artists expunged. New exhibits put on by the state have titles like “NATOzism” — a play on “Nazism” that seeks to cast the Western military alliance as posing a threat as existential as the Nazis of World War II. (Sort of like Mission Accomplished banners and the Muslim as the ultimate bogeyman thus necessitating trillions to go towards blowing up sand and piles of rock while espousing lies about the Afghan army and the thirst for Democracy.  Remembering that the United States purposely bombed the bejeezus belt out of civilian infrastructure in Iraq and Libya and points beyond, like Chinese embassies and power plants in the Balkans)

    …

    “Liberalism in Russia is dead forever, thank God,” Konstantin Malofeyev, an ultraconservative business tycoon, bragged in a phone interview on Saturday. “The longer this war lasts, the more Russian society is cleansing itself from liberalism and the Western poison.” (words only matter when the #neocon says they matter)

    …

    National television channels, all controlled by the Kremlin, dropped entertainment programming in favor of more news and political talk shows; schools were directed to add a regular flag-raising ceremony and “patriotic” education; the police hunted down people for offenses like antiwar Facebook posts, helping to push hundreds of thousands of Russians out of the country. (sounds like Ukraine under Zelensky)

“Society in general has gone off the rails,” a worried high school administrator told the Times. “They’ve flipped the ideas of good and evil.” (so weird, it seems the same narrative is said again and again about Western “democracies” by people living in those countries) He’s not exaggerating: Everywhere you look, you’ll find Russian civil and cultural institutions normalizing depravity toward Ukrainians and their allies.

For instance: Traditional depravity in war is bombing the enemy’s cities to rubble. Next-level depravity is kidnapping children who lived in those cities and showing them off as war trophies at fascist rallies back home.  (Well, the United States has certainly bombed many places into rubble, and by those actions has help re-usher in the slave trade and human trafficking in numerous countries.  Weird the simple brained #neocon doesn’t ever want to talk about that)

Traditional depravity in war is insisting that God is on your side, no matter how cruelly your forces behave. Next-level depravity is having the head of your church compare your soldiers to Jesus and proclaim that their sins will be forgiven if they die while trying to liquidate Ukraine. Or having your media house organs extol death as an optimal state: “Life is highly overrated. Why fear what is inevitable? Especially when we’re going to heaven. Death is the end of one earthly path and the beginning of another.” (This is parody, right?  He’s writing parody . . . )

Traditional depravity in war is punishing your returning POWs for letting themselves be captured instead of fighting to the death. Next-level depravity is executing those POWs on video by bashing their skulls in with sledgehammers and having the videos prove so popular among war supporters that the sledgehammer becomes a sort of national totem of glorious ruthlessness in pursuit of victory. (The Ukrainians are doing the same thing, and suddenly Abu Gharib, and the Bagram Black Hole are shoved farther and farther away so the #neocon simp brain isn’t troubled)

Traditional depravity in war is conscripting men who are physically or psychologically unfit and thrusting them into the conflict. Next-level depravity is throwing incarcerated prisoners into the fight and then rewarding them by releasing them back into society once they’ve served their tour of duty—even if they were convicted of murder or rape. “These are psychologically broken people who are returning with a sense of righteousness, a belief that they have killed to defend the Motherland,” one lawyer told the Times of the get-out-of-jail-free card. “These can be very dangerous people.”

As Russia has degraded morally, it’s also begun to degrade in more measurable ways. Western markets for its chief export, energy, have collapsed and may never recover. The country’s demographic tailspin has been made worse by tens of thousands of young men dying in battle and many more going into exile to avoid conscription. Basic infrastructure is suffering because of Western sanctions and domestic resources being diverted toward Ukraine.  (Meanwhile the United States supports some of the worst of the worst while historically training some of the worst of the worst at places like the School of the America’s . . . oh excuse me the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation)

When the war began, Ukraine’s allies hoped that civil discontent would grow and ultimately topple Putin. Instead Russian society is being remade, morally and otherwise, to accommodate his intoxicated illusion about empire. The cognitive dissonance between “the war is obviously evil and self-destructive” and “we must be good patriots and support the war” has been resolved: Actually, being evil and self-destructive is patriotic. (This is where we talk about the death of the anti-war ProgLib movement and it’s transformation into #blueanonneocon)

The Russian state may or may not survive the forces Putin has unleashed on it. But however and whenever the war ends, Russians will have lost vastly more than they end up gaining. I can’t think of a better definition of “strategic disaster.” (In the last 20 years or so the U.S. has spent what? $20 Trillion on wars in far off lands, repeatedly lied about why it went to war, left nations in shambles, and provided the Taliban and now terrorists on the disputed borders between Pakistan and India with billions of dollars in weapons an ammo etc. etc. etc)

The country’s descent into inebriated manic depravity has also corrupted its Western apologists—to a point. Unlike in Russia, in America you can’t chortle at videos of Ukrainians getting blown up at train stations or POWs having their heads sledgehammered into paste and expect to participate in mainstream media. Even Fox News primetime wouldn’t condone that. I think.(the simp brained neocon never wants to talk about U.S. meddling in the internal affairs in Ukraine and is left with nothing but to call anyone against the war a “Russian Apologist”.  The dominion of the simplest minds reigns in neocon world)

The immorality of attacking Ukraine was and is so clear, in fact, that most Russia simps in the U.S. didn’t bother trying to justify it in the run-up to war last year. They spent their time insisting that White House warnings of an impending invasion were alarmist nonsense designed to spook the world about Russian belligerence. A “cocaine bear”? Why, the very idea is preposterous. (quoting President Ensure’s own words and the words of his crap for brain #neocon controllers enrages the arm chair #neocon)

They’ve spent every day since regretting their naivete and flogging Russia mercilessly for its ongoing crimes against the Ukrainian people. No, I kid: They’ve spent every day since repositioning themselves as “anti-war” even though they’re aligned with the side in the conflict that could stop the war instantly and unilaterally by withdrawing—yet chooses not to. In that context, bleats about a “peace deal” are little more than doublespeak aimed at pressuring Ukraine to offer territorial concessions that will let Putin save face and finally make withdrawal worth his while. (Again Allahpundit doesn’t even cover 1/1000th of the issue, playing completely to the mush brain #neocon mind)

What unites all variants of the “anti-war” argument is the notion that the war is something that’s being done to Russia rather than something Russia is doing to someone else. Just last night, for example, this secessionist turned up on (where else?) Fox News primetime to lament bipartisan support in the United States “for this war against Russia in Ukraine.” Again, playing to the absolute derpiest of derp brains in #neocon land.  Engaged in Bushian for us or against us exercises that play to the smallest of minds)

I’m tempted to ask her if she would have opposed “the war against Germany in Poland” during World War II but I fear what the answer might be.

Other “anti-war” populists have cried crocodile tears about Ukraine’s hardships while implying that the United States is contributing to them rather than alleviating them. “A lot of Americans are asking, ‘How much more money? How much more time? How much more human suffering?’” Fox host Lisa Boothe complained recently. She meant to suggest that Ukrainians might suffer less if Joe Biden and his warmongering party stopped thrusting weapons into their hands and goading them to defend themselves, never mind what happened earlier in the war in places where the locals found themselves at the mercy of Russian soldiers. Or that majorities in every region of Ukraine believe the country should keep fighting until it wins. (The armchair #neocon is always ready and willing to let others fight and die in order to avoid making people realize how penile challenged they are)

Every day for the past year, the Ukrainian government has begged the United States for more, and more sophisticated, munitions. To ignore that and insist that the policy that will produce the least “human suffering” involves Ukraine being disarmed, you need to be awfully committed to populist authoritarianism. (absolutely hilarious, you’re a “Populous Authoritarian” if you ask when a war is going to end!!  It is a very very very scant few calling for fully disarming Ukaine.  One person who wasn’t interested at all in giving more arms to Ukraine . . . Barry Obama)

Lately, some “anti-war” types have pivoted away from claiming that the weapons aren’t wanted and/or necessary and toward more basic “America First” argle-bargle.

There’s no reason it can’t be the party of both, as there’s no shortage of wasteful spending in the federal budget that Republicans might cut to pay for aid to East Palestine. (Start with some of those bloated “woke programs” I keep hearing so much about.) Most of Hawley’s Republican colleagues in Congress would say that the GOP is the party of both, I suspect, although the ones who need to worry about their next primary might say it off the record. Hawley is presenting a false choice not because he worries that East Palestine will be given short shrift by the feds but because he’s a post-liberal isolationist who resents seeing the United States take sides with the wrong team in Russia’s war. “East Palestine, not Ukraine” is a pretext to weaken the military vanguard of Western liberalism on pseudo-patriotic grounds.(The ol there’s wasteful spending everywhere, so who GAF if we spend billions on Ukraine trope.  The lowest form of derp brained #neocon logic . . . which is really saying something)

These people like to call themselves “realists.” But in all three examples of populist apologetics here, fantasy begets fantasy.

Putin’s intoxication about restoring Russia’s empire has crashed strategically, morally, and militarily. His army can’t take Ukraine; even if it could, wars of conquest are broadly condemned in the 21st century; even if they weren’t, the brutal Russian way of war would bleed international support for his campaign. All of that leaves Western excuse-makers unable to defend his war forthrightly, so they’re stuck inventing unpersuasive fantasies of their own (“we’re prolonging the suffering!”) to justify their anti-anti-Russia position. (The whole “Putin miscalculated so the war must continue” insanity of the armchair #neocon.  Tragic

I’ve made this point elsewhere but it bears repeating: Not one person who has objected to aid to Ukraine on “America First” grounds would change their basic rooting interest in the war if the United States cut provisions to the Ukrainians tomorrow. Sending HIMARS to East Palestine instead of Kyiv won’t lead Tucker Carlson to start earnestly covering reports of Russian atrocities. It won’t lead Josh Hawley to spearhead private charitable efforts to raise money for suffering Ukrainians. They’ll simply retreat into stupider illiberal fantasies, like how a “national divorce” might be in everyone’s best interest. so now the armchair #neocon is worried about atrocities in that part of the world.  LMAO.  The Bush doctrine lives in derp brained #neocon world.  The hilarious part is, many of the people living that fantasy wanted the original #neocons shipped off and tried for war crimes

Seriously, if you think “America Firsters” dislike Ukraine, wait until you hear them talk about America. (if you listen to the newly minted #blueanonneocon you would think that America is the worst place on the planet)

A year to the day after Russia invaded, we’re left with a war in which the outcome has grown fuzzier over time while the moral stakes have grown clearer. That’s the point isolationists should be hammering if they want to pull the plug on Ukraine, that the fight has become a “frozen conflict” destined for stalemate and therefore the U.S. should cut bait rather than continue to throw resources down a sinkhole. But because Putin and his country are blissed out on depravity, refusing to abandon the “Russian way of war,” his allies in the West keep butting up against the wider public’s ongoing righteous outrage at Russian cruelty. Even when it’s obviously in Russia’s strategic interest to refrain from targeting civilians in Ukraine and fighting a “cleaner” war, they can’t. They’re addicted, high as a kite on ruthless expansionist cruelty. Keep making them suffer for it. (written by a full supporter of a nation that has killed hundreds of thousands of people around the globe in the last 23 years and refugee’d millions upon million more)

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« Reply #6064 on: February 26, 2023, 03:41:05 PM »
Dax, no one is going to read that.
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« Reply #6065 on: February 26, 2023, 04:06:35 PM »
It's not a Tweet from a Twitter rando . . . that's probably true

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« Reply #6066 on: February 26, 2023, 07:13:26 PM »
Shot:

Sunday gibberish with #slowdug


Chaser:

Insanely long wall of rambling text.

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« Reply #6067 on: February 26, 2023, 07:30:45 PM »
Dax was definitely getting ready to go on a big heater today
"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks"

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« Reply #6068 on: February 26, 2023, 07:38:20 PM »
#neocongE - Standing firm with their Malkin acolyte.

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« Reply #6069 on: February 26, 2023, 07:39:41 PM »
Shot:

Sunday gibberish with #slowdug


Chaser:

Insanely long wall of rambling text.
Malkin acolyte = rambling text

Definitely under consideration

I’ll let you know.

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« Reply #6070 on: February 26, 2023, 07:56:03 PM »
My winning smile and can-do attitude.

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« Reply #6071 on: February 26, 2023, 09:46:26 PM »
Guy who we agree with and who used to work for Michelle Malkin is just a wall of rambling text . . . #neocongE #thumbsup



I concur

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« Reply #6072 on: February 27, 2023, 01:27:31 PM »
dax was completely shitfaced or was having a stroke.

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« Reply #6073 on: February 27, 2023, 02:25:05 PM »
AllahPundit (and Michelle Malkin) speak for me . . . #slowdug

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« Reply #6074 on: February 27, 2023, 02:28:54 PM »
Great piece on the state of the war right now. Might be paywalled but you should buy a sub.

https://twitter.com/jaynordlinger/status/1629547516030070785?s=20


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The country’s descent into inebriated manic depravity has also corrupted its Western apologists—to a point. Unlike in Russia, in America you can’t chortle at videos of Ukrainians getting blown up at train stations or POWs having their heads sledgehammered into paste and expect to participate in mainstream media. Even Fox News primetime wouldn’t condone that. I think.

The immorality of attacking Ukraine was and is so clear, in fact, that most Russia simps in the U.S. didn’t bother trying to justify it in the run-up to war last year. They spent their time insisting that White House warnings of an impending invasion were alarmist nonsense designed to spook the world about Russian belligerence. A “cocaine bear”? Why, the very idea is preposterous.


They’ve spent every day since regretting their naivete and flogging Russia mercilessly for its ongoing crimes against the Ukrainian people. No, I kid: They’ve spent every day since repositioning themselves as “anti-war” even though they’re aligned with the side in the conflict that could stop the war instantly and unilaterally by withdrawing—yet chooses not to. In that context, bleats about a “peace deal” are little more than doublespeak aimed at pressuring Ukraine to offer territorial concessions that will let Putin save face and finally make withdrawal worth his while.

What unites all variants of the “anti-war” argument is the notion that the war is something that’s being done to Russia rather than something Russia is doing to someone else. Just last night, for example, this secessionist turned up on (where else?) Fox News primetime to lament bipartisan support in the United States “for this war against Russia in Ukraine.”



I’m tempted to ask her if she would have opposed “the war against Germany in Poland” during World War II but I fear what the answer might be.

Other “anti-war” populists have cried crocodile tears about Ukraine’s hardships while implying that the United States is contributing to them rather than alleviating them. “A lot of Americans are asking, ‘How much more money? How much more time? How much more human suffering?’” Fox host Lisa Boothe complained recently. She meant to suggest that Ukrainians might suffer less if Joe Biden and his warmongering party stopped thrusting weapons into their hands and goading them to defend themselves, never mind what happened earlier in the war in places where the locals found themselves at the mercy of Russian soldiers. Or that majorities in every region of Ukraine believe the country should keep fighting until it wins.

Every day for the past year, the Ukrainian government has begged the United States for more, and more sophisticated, munitions. To ignore that and insist that the policy that will produce the least “human suffering” involves Ukraine being disarmed, you need to be awfully committed to populist authoritarianism.

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