Possible WW3 thread

[Sandstone Outcropping]

So what’s our most likely outcome working theory right now.  Putin finally takes Kiev in a few weeks and demands those two separatist regions and his off ramp is leaving the country with those two territories in tow?

Putin will remain a sack of human garbage. Lots of Ukranians will die. My crystal ball is cloudy beyond that.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think Putin assumes (rightfully so) that he will get murdered if he brings his armies back home with anything less than a puppet government in Ukraine, so he will continue to destroy Russia until he kills Zelenskyy.

[sonofdaxjones]

Col. Doug Macgregor (US Army Ret) on the hated Fox News, also hated because he apparently hasn't sat on the board of any defense contractors our tried to foist an  Enron Lite scam on the Marine Corp,  says he thinks that Putin only wants Eastern Ukraine and the capital.

He isn't digging the fact that we're encouraging Ukrainians to fight and die.    Apparently Trey "all talk no walk" Gowdy was not pleased. 

Of course along with Gowdy, the rest of NeoConTV thinks MacGregor is another Putin puppet.    NeoConTV and #neoconGe love to see Ukrainians dying, apparently.

Amazing reversal over 20 years, just a  worthy transformation.

[star seed 7]

Personally I think it's the Ukrainians choice if they want to fight or not but I guess dax thinks it's the US's choice?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, I can understand why they might want to choose their own leaders and not have Putin's guy that they already overthrew a few years ago back.

[sonofdaxjones]

I wish I had booked marked it, but it appears that NeoCon Nation has unleashed the bots on Twitter, to step in with chain gun rapid fire responses whenever someone discusses this is about NATO expansion, and now trying claim this is solely about Putin wanting to rebuild the USSR.   When Putin has been warning about NATO expansion and its consequences for over two decades.

It really is amazing to watch NeoCon Nation quickly rally into a propaganda machine.   I though most American's would have learned to see through that, but clearly we still live with millions of Bushian level thinkers running around on both sides. 

Sad

[sonofdaxjones]

Personally I think it's the Ukrainians choice if they want to fight or not but I guess dax thinks it's the US's choice?

Amazing

[star seed 7]

Maybe iPOTUS should invade also so we can make sure the Ukrainians are not fighting back and Putin can just take whatever he wants.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I wish I had booked marked it, but it appears that NeoCon Nation has unleashed the bots on Twitter, to step in with chain gun rapid fire responses whenever someone discusses this is about NATO expansion, and now trying claim this is solely about Putin wanting to rebuild the USSR.   When Putin has been warning about NATO expansion and its consequences for over two decades.

It really is amazing to watch NeoCon Nation quickly rally into a propaganda machine.   I though most American's would have learned to see through that, but clearly we still live with millions of Bushian level thinkers running around on both sides. 

Sad

It's a lot more likely those are real people who would rather not see a return of the USSR.

[steve dave]

New one stop shop MAGA browser homepage!

https://twitter.com/UrbanAchievr/status/1499479372931162119

[sonofdaxjones]

Or maybe the Chinese Intelligence Asset in Chief and his NeoCons should have been more serious about negotiating with Putin, and as I've said, if they weren't going to be serious and if they actually wanted to avoid signaling they've wanted an insurgency war all along . . . they could have armed Ukraine properly before hand, and stopped hiding behind all the BS about provoking Putin by doing so, when they had already been provoking him for years.

I will give them marks for pausing on arming Ukraine because the military is very corrupt in Ukraine and there's lots of Nazi's in the military.   But eventually when asked, our Congressman on various defense committees said they couldn't care less about that, I posted an article about this several pages back from Intercept.

[sonofdaxjones]

I wish I had booked marked it, but it appears that NeoCon Nation has unleashed the bots on Twitter, to step in with chain gun rapid fire responses whenever someone discusses this is about NATO expansion, and now trying claim this is solely about Putin wanting to rebuild the USSR.   When Putin has been warning about NATO expansion and its consequences for over two decades.

It really is amazing to watch NeoCon Nation quickly rally into a propaganda machine.   I though most American's would have learned to see through that, but clearly we still live with millions of Bushian level thinkers running around on both sides. 

Sad

It's a lot more likely those are real people who would rather not see a return of the USSR.

And it absolute fact that our NeoCons don't want any sort of neutrality status for Ukraine.   Can't park ABM systems and the like in neutral countries.

[Cire]

The end is, Putin gets Ukraine at an incredible cost of Russians and Ukrainians.

Yonukovich or whatever his name is will be prez at this time next year.

Only real question will be for how long the sanctions last and if finland/sweden et al join nato.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't see how Yanukovych would be able to hold onto power in Ukraine. This war isn't exactly endearing the people to Russia.

[Spracne]

I don't see how Yanukovych would be able to hold onto power in Ukraine. This war isn't exactly endearing the people to Russia.

Nor is it endearing the people of Russia to the Putin gov't.

[sonofdaxjones]

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't see how Yanukovych would be able to hold onto power in Ukraine. This war isn't exactly endearing the people to Russia.

Nor is it endearing the people of Russia to the Putin gov't.

Yeah, I think it's a lot more likely that Russia has a new leader by this time next year than it is that Ukraine is led by Yanukovych. Putin might "win" the war and install Yanukovych, but he would just end up murdered.

[Spracne]

Republic TV has nationalism at its core...

Republic is not one man.

Republic is the united might of the people.

Republic will not bow down.

Republic is too loud to be silenced.

You are the Republic.

We are just your voice.

https://www.republicworld.com/about-us.html

[Fedor]

Who is that? Major General Captain Kangaroo?

[sonofdaxjones]

Republic TV has nationalism at its core...

Republic is not one man.

Republic is the united might of the people.

Republic will not bow down.

Republic is too loud to be silenced.

You are the Republic.

We are just your voice.

https://www.republicworld.com/about-us.html

Source pearl clutching:  1000%

[sonofdaxjones]

My goodness, what a collective band of dipshits if they do this.

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/india-ukraine-sanction-biden-unga-b2027646.html

[Spracne]

Republic TV has nationalism at its core...

Republic is not one man.

Republic is the united might of the people.

Republic will not bow down.

Republic is too loud to be silenced.

You are the Republic.

We are just your voice.

https://www.republicworld.com/about-us.html

Source pearl clutching:  1000%

I've never understood how "source pearl clutching" is such a slam in your brain. Like, it is the bare minimum that any person should do: assess the credibility of the source. Yet you think that's a bad thing?

[Dugout DickStone]

Putin is cranking up the brutality towards nazi women and children civilians.  They don’t know they are nazis so he murders them to be safe.

And Maga cheers on the butcher like the incels they are

[sonofdaxjones]

Republic TV has nationalism at its core...

Republic is not one man.

Republic is the united might of the people.

Republic will not bow down.

Republic is too loud to be silenced.

You are the Republic.

We are just your voice.

https://www.republicworld.com/about-us.html

Source pearl clutching:  1000%

I've never understood how "source pearl clutching" is such a slam in your brain. Like, it is the bare minimum that any person should do: assess the credibility of the source. Yet you think that's a bad thing?

I do accept the credibility of the message.

Using your stupid ass logic, I am not allowed to accept the credibility of anything that the Washington Post, it's contributors and writers puts out because they have some bullshit slogan about Democracy (as defined by us) Dies in the Darkness on their mast head.   Some made up, utterly contrived marketing bullshit meant to get #blueanon all horned up.

If I read a well laid out article about U.S. meddling in the Ukraine on the progressive.org website, using spracs dipshit logic, I am to dismiss it outright because by and large progressiveism doesn't align with my overall political dogma.

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Putin is cranking up the brutality towards nazi women and children civilians.  They don’t know they are nazis so he murders them to be safe.

And Maga cheers on the butcher like the incels they are

#blueanonNeoCon/#neoconGe has gotten it's rocks off since the moment this war has started.