Possible WW3 thread

[Fedor]

https://twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1557364405079269377?cxt=HHwWgoCz6Zqr75wrAAAA

[sonofdaxjones]

The M777's are true first world military weapon.  They weren't really designed to be drug around through fields by trucks.  The U.S./NATO move them by helicopter over long distances, or ensure good roads.  We're also giving them to Ukraine without the sophisticated targeting technology.   They require lots of maintenance by trained top tier crews. 

[Woogy]

it does feel good.

https://twitter.com/quantian1/status/1557048300318105601

Pure armchair #neocon fap material.

The actual reports are, the Ukrainian military has suffered catastrophic losses, and what U.S. and NATO supplied equipment that actually makes it to the battlefield is being burned through at rates that our military leaders didn't expect unless there was total war with Russia or China.

Considering the systems that have been given are perhaps only 10% of the "combined" part of the "combined arms" nature of the engagements they were designed to fight in, excess loss would be expected, if reports are accurate.  Add in a learning curve in operation and tactical use, and there you go.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

https://twitter.com/jayinkyiv/status/1557397898173812737?s=21&t=hPzsecvf-_H3ahAlSpk3kg

[Kat Kid]

it does feel good.

https://twitter.com/quantian1/status/1557048300318105601

That guy may well be right about this, but he is a rough ridin' moron for his claims about aircraft carriers. There has not been a war game in the past 20 years where aircraft carriers (and surface vessels in general) were not the first thing off the board, they are absolutely not going to make it in a major conflict.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

“Crimea River”

https://twitter.com/meduselchen/status/1557292618240901120?s=21&t=5tl37qtvmD98CuPpxFxryg

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL, we just can’t help ourselves. Threaten, threaten, threaten . . .

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/world/europe/us-africa-russia-sanctions.html

[sys]

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1557794100430135297

[sonofdaxjones]

If that was processed through the Ukrainian Digital Information Ministry immediately consider it mis/disinformation

[Katpappy]

BREAKING:  Good news for sys and SD, but not so good for Russian lover Dax.

.
                                                                                                                                                                              .
 

[sonofdaxjones]

If you're against stupid avoidable wars and derps believing Ukrainian propaganda than you're a Putin Lover: Katpappy

[Sandstone Outcropping]

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1558056921080496128?s=20&t=uGfLGUcRBiwNg4l0Euj_XA

[Dugout DickStone]

passed out lol

[wetwillie]

What’s current prediction on how long this lasts?  I didn’t anticipate it to even last this long, might be a multi year one huh?

[Sandstone Outcropping]

this guy looks like puke

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1558108741844746240?s=20&t=Th9lbKLDWCmA_vjZOGG-BA

[Sandstone Outcropping]

What’s current prediction on how long this lasts?  I didn’t anticipate it to even last this long, might be a multi year one huh?

Unless Ukraine finds a way to quickly evict Russia from the territory they are occupying, it could go on for a while, especially given Putin's love for helping humanitarian disasters to fester forever.

[Fedor]

What’s current prediction on how long this lasts?  I didn’t anticipate it to even last this long, might be a multi year one huh?

Unless Ukraine finds a way to quickly evict Russia from the territory they are occupying, it could go on for a while, especially given Putin's love for helping humanitarian disasters to fester forever.

Ukraine has blown up 5000+ armored vehicles but Russia is pulling more out of storage and has 10's of thousands more so it seems like no end is near.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

insane Javelin footage. I still think it is crazy that an infantry-carried rocket launcher can take out a tank like this.

https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1558166133475262466?s=20&t=Jt371M2RjvQOmP1HOmG7OQ

[Kat Kid]

I don't think anyone has any handle on Ukranian military numbers/capacity other than material support coming in and videos. The Ukranians definitely successfully held off the push for Kyiv and that was a huge success and achievement. My prediction for awhile has been that I don't think that Ukranians will be able to regain the lost territory in the South or East and I haven't seen anything that has changed my mind. How much more progress the Russians make is hard to tell.

I think a negotiated settlement would be best for most Europeans (and probably most Ukrainians) but I kind of think that this thing is a long slog.

[kim carnes]

You certainly don’t have a handle on it so I’m not sure why you’re making predictions lmao

[sonofdaxjones]

American's lamenting prolonging humanitarian disasters is just fantastic.  Just a wholesale lack of awareness and thought on every possible level.

[Kat Kid]

You certainly don’t have a handle on it so I’m not sure why you’re making predictions lmao

I don't think anyone paying attention to the news has an accurate idea of Ukraine's military size, their losses, how many more recruits they can muster.

Do you? So you're right, no one here really knows much of anything, but here we are talking about it.

[Woogy]

I don't think anyone has any handle on Ukranian military numbers/capacity other than material support coming in and videos. The Ukranians definitely successfully held off the push for Kyiv and that was a huge success and achievement. My prediction for awhile has been that I don't think that Ukranians will be able to regain the lost territory in the South or East and I haven't seen anything that has changed my mind. How much more progress the Russians make is hard to tell.

I think a negotiated settlement would be best for most Europeans (and probably most Ukrainians) but I kind of think that this thing is a long slog.

Pretty much this, from my POV.  A couple of things:

• Ukraine can likely make Crimea untenable, but not likely outright regain it. Russia is going to need to figure out *now* how to support Sevastopol.
• Russia will need to absolutely fight to keep Ukraine from gaining a line from Dnipro-Zaporizhzhya-Melitopol.  If Ukraine can force this line - which includes the nuclear power station - it would be game over for Sevastopol as anything more than an outpost.
• Russia can likewise continue to make life hell out of indiscriminate rocket/missile attacks about everywhere, at least until either they decide they can't expend anymore and not totally drop trou elsewhere, or they are able to blackmarket source enough components to build something.
• Likewise, Donetsk will be untenable for Ukraine to hold if they can regain it. Its been too Russian adjacent for too long that partisanship will be Middle-East like.
• Its getting close to the point, if not already there, where the westernization of Ukraine's military will be a complete fait accompli.  There's going to be little choice as the rest of Eastern Europe is well on their way with their Russian/Soviet stocks of weapons all funneled into the Ukraine special disposal action.
• I think a DMZ of sorts develops somewhere either side of a Kharkiv/Berdyansk line. Although there's a hell of a lot of farmland right in that pocket.

[Pete]

What’s current prediction on how long this lasts?  I didn’t anticipate it to even last this long, might be a multi year one huh?

Unless Ukraine finds a way to quickly evict Russia from the territory they are occupying, it could go on for a while, especially given Putin's love for helping humanitarian disasters to fester forever.

Ukraine has blown up 5000+ armored vehicles but Russia is pulling more out of storage and has 10's of thousands more so it seems like no end is near.

Just need to hold them off a bit longer and let our military industrial complex get fully geared up.  I wonder how many Javelins are in WIP at Lockheed?!?!

[Kat Kid]

ukraine war twitter is having a fun day with those long range hits.

Kind of interesting that the Ukrainians claimed it was partisans and/or Ukrainian long range missiles/drone when evidence points to it being HIMARS.