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« Reply #625 on: June 12, 2024, 02:26:43 PM »

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World faces ‘staggering’ oil glut by end of decade, energy watchdog warns

IEA predicts more than 8mn b/d of excess capacity by 2030 as producers invest in pumping more crude


https://www.ft.com/content/cfb97534-b71b-490f-b626-6dc3487f595d


What impact does this likely have on the U.S. economy?
I’m not confident that peak oil is behind us, but if it is then that is great for the economy and inflation.
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« Reply #626 on: July 12, 2024, 05:30:07 AM »
other than losing muscle as well as fat, i haven't heard of a single concern re. glp-1 use.  on the contrary, every story that comes out on them is is like "welp, we found another thing these drugs cure without even trying".


i think i'm gonna try to buy some of the oral version the next time i'm in mexico.

oh look, another thing these miracle drugs do.

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« Reply #627 on: July 12, 2024, 07:38:03 AM »
48% lower!

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« Reply #628 on: July 12, 2024, 12:50:23 PM »
Whoa. I hope that applies to Zepbound too (my drug of choice).

Zepbound and Mounjaro share the same active ingredient (tirzepatide), and Ozempic and Wegovy share a different active ingredient (semaglutide).

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« Reply #629 on: July 12, 2024, 12:55:02 PM »
The only real serious side effect I've seen consistently pop up in doing research is negative impact to Gallbladder.  I do think the net benefit is pretty large in a society that is obese and probably will continue to be without these.
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« Reply #630 on: July 12, 2024, 01:26:22 PM »
Ultimately I do t think there is much worse for a persons health, long term, than being obese. If we end up with a bunch of minimally overweight ppl with gallbladder issues, that’s probably as huge of a win as we could ask for in this world.

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« Reply #631 on: July 12, 2024, 03:26:38 PM »
I feel like life has shown me every good time comes with a hangover.
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« Reply #632 on: July 12, 2024, 03:38:18 PM »
If we were just looking to suppress people’s appetites as a means of weight loss we should’ve had everyone on adderall decades ago lmao

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« Reply #633 on: July 12, 2024, 04:46:58 PM »
If we were just looking to suppress people’s appetites as a means of weight loss we should’ve had everyone on adderall decades ago lmao

We would have flying cars by now too!

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« Reply #634 on: July 15, 2024, 08:13:54 AM »
Any of you guys getting a good reading from your crystal ball about rate cuts? The mainstream media (GOD DAMN MAINSTREAM MEDIA!) is awash with conflicting theories about whether inflation has slowed, whether a rate change would or would not benefit a given presidential candidate, and whether or not it would induce more inflation.

Peggy Po: what a luxurious position we Americans are in that we can be in the midst of a  stellar SP500 year despite high rates.  If/when we see a pullback, we still have the lever available to drop rates and nudge this bitch back up to speed, regardless of who is president.

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« Reply #635 on: July 15, 2024, 10:06:25 AM »
Our economy is kicking so much ass there’s really no rush. Guessing we get one soon though. Jerome was going to have our red hot USA economy be the last to do it, for good reason.


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« Reply #636 on: July 15, 2024, 11:47:33 AM »
I don’t mind waiting and keeping the chowder dry.

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« Reply #637 on: July 15, 2024, 01:37:34 PM »
Sell now while you still can

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« Reply #638 on: July 15, 2024, 02:24:40 PM »
I will just keep buying the same amount each month.
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« Reply #639 on: July 15, 2024, 02:32:19 PM »
I’m not going to DO anything either way. Just curious about the macroeconomics.

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« Reply #640 on: July 15, 2024, 04:29:55 PM »
My crystal ball is that there will be two more rate cuts this year. Markets are predicting about a 60% chance of three rate cuts, but I think the Fed will continue to be cautious.

A lot of my feeling about the macroeconomy is based on fireworks sales. It is a very discretionary purchase that gives some insight into how consumers are feeling. This year, sales were up about 20% compared to last year. This increase in sales is likely due to the 4th being on a Thursday rather than a Tuesday. However, I think that consumers are not fully pulling back, but are really searching for lower priced items. Fireworks that were markedly lower in price this year compared to last year sold much better than fireworks that were just a little lower priced. All fireworks were lower in price this year than last year, but some more than others. On average I would say prices were 15-20% lower than last year. Given that fireworks are much higher in price now than they were in 2020 (about 65% higher), we are likely on a fairly elastic portion of the demand curve. The drop in prices this year resulted in an increase in revenue. The overall point being, while consumers have some willingness to spend, they are really searching for lower prices and are not willing to spend on things that remain elevated in price.

This indicates a slowing economy where consumers are cautiously confident and are fatigued by higher prices. This behavior, along with a softening labor market, gives the Federal Reserve some room to lower their target for the fed funds rate. However, I believe the FOMC will be very reticent to lower interest rates too much and they will avoid giving inflation any oxygen to start burning again. As I predicted, not on here, but to my classes, the FOMC was about 6-12 months too late in starting to raise their target for the fed funds rate. They know this now and will err on the side of too restrictive policy until March of 2025.

Once we hit March of 2025, I would look for five more rate cuts in 2025. A slow, gradual easing of monetary policy that results in a target range of 3.50% - 3.75% as we go into 2026.

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« Reply #641 on: July 15, 2024, 04:39:16 PM »
I am a moron and nearly the exact opposite of an economist, but it seems like the mid 3’s is a pretty great place to hang out. Gives plenty of ability to borrow at a reasonable level while still leaving the ability to lower rates if the economy ever needs a shot in the ass.

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« Reply #642 on: July 17, 2024, 08:46:26 AM »
other than losing muscle as well as fat, i haven't heard of a single concern re. glp-1 use.  on the contrary, every story that comes out on them is is like "welp, we found another thing these drugs cure without even trying".


i think i'm gonna try to buy some of the oral version the next time i'm in mexico.

oh look, another thing these miracle drugs do.

https://x.com/LiveSquawk/status/1811682469856367078
More encouraging market news from the drug dealers

https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/sleep-apnea-weight-loss-drugs-00373f21


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Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, the drugs’ makers, are betting insurers that have been resistant to covering weight-loss treatment will be more inclined to reimburse for other uses. That is why the companies are sponsoring studies evaluating the medicines for a range of applications, from treating heart, kidney and liver disease to Alzheimer’s and sleep apnea….



….Validation that the drugs work in sleep apnea alone would mean, Jefferies analysts estimate, $5 billion in additional sales for Zepbound. For tens of thousands of people seeking to take one of the drugs, it would also mean the difference between filling a prescription or not.


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« Reply #643 on: July 17, 2024, 08:47:53 AM »
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Shares of Swiss pharma giant Roche climbed Wednesday after it reported promising results for an experimental weight loss pill, part of a cohort of hopeful competitors racing to challenge Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly in the burgeoning diabetes and obesity drug market amid growing evidence the drugs can treat many other health conditions like kidney disease and sleep apnea.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2024/07/17/roche-climbs-as-once-daily-weight-loss-pill-shows-promise/

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« Reply #644 on: August 02, 2024, 10:11:09 AM »
Sell now while you still can

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« Reply #645 on: August 12, 2024, 03:33:13 PM »
Well, good news, because apparently you can both keep the wiener and lose the weight


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The wiener actually gets more bonery apparently

https://x.com/wsj/status/1823090900907507940?s=46&t=odWzhuZU7P443NcVwlC1iQ


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« Reply #646 on: August 12, 2024, 03:58:21 PM »
Well, good news, because apparently you can both keep the wiener and lose the weight


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The wiener actually gets more bonery apparently

https://x.com/wsj/status/1823090900907507940?s=46&t=odWzhuZU7P443NcVwlC1iQ


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Less fat, better sleep, bigger boners...is there anything this drug can't do?

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« Reply #647 on: August 13, 2024, 07:41:00 AM »
Well, good news, because apparently you can both keep the wiener and lose the weight


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The wiener actually gets more bonery apparently

https://x.com/wsj/status/1823090900907507940?s=46&t=odWzhuZU7P443NcVwlC1iQ


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Less fat, better sleep, bigger boners...is there anything this drug can't do?

Iirc, they are also saying increase in cognitive abilities.  So, no, it seems to hit all the biggies. 

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« Reply #648 on: August 13, 2024, 07:12:39 PM »
Reports of it helping people beat addictions, too.
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« Reply #649 on: August 13, 2024, 10:08:18 PM »
Reports of it helping people beat addictions, too.

i mostly consider that a negative, tbh.
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