Pistols firing from ambush?

[catastrophe]

I swear to rough ridin' God if y'all don't stop blaming the coaches for freshman back up quarterbacks looking like freshman backup quarterbacks. JESUS CHRIST.

Spencer Rattler is getting booed at home, D.J. Uiagalelei has the 99th best QBR in the country and y'all are firing coaches because our backups suck.

I swear to rough ridin' God.

Howard isn't a freshman.

Jaren Lewis is in year 3 of being in the program lol

What’s your point? He still hasn’t started a single game yet.

That he isn’t a freshman backup QB, he still looks lost despite having nearly 3 full years in the program.

He didn’t look lost to me. He looked like a guy without a ton of composure who didn’t want to try to fit the ball into tight windows after his INT. The announcers were talking about how much trouble our receivers had getting separation in the second half.

[wetwillie]

I guess this game answers the question whether the Lynch Mob is back or not.

They gave up 24 points and pitched a shutout in the second half, all without stubblefield and green.  The defense ain’t the problem.

Not the problem but still I feel like either the defense improves or we’re DOA without Sky. Barring a special teams TD or big defensive play it’s tough to imagine this offense ever getting over 30 points.

I agree we are completely mumped offensively without Skylar

[CHONGS]

we really miss Skylar 

He’s pretty damn good

No he was average.  But we miss average.

He was better than average in 2019 and in the 4 games he's played since then.

Was he? Compared to what?

[michigancat]

IMO we should have been all in on Lewis since Sky went down. At least he hasn’t shown his ceiling yet. Howard had plenty of opportunity to develop and just never seemed to take much of a step forward.

I think Lewis has shown his ceiling

[Hurricane Cat]

we really miss Skylar 

He’s pretty damn good

No he was average.  But we miss average.

He was better than average in 2019 and in the 4 games he's played since then.

Probably good enough to win today . . .

[catastrophe]

IMO we should have been all in on Lewis since Sky went down. At least he hasn’t shown his ceiling yet. Howard had plenty of opportunity to develop and just never seemed to take much of a step forward.

Still think ruining Howard’s brain and gaining an extra blocker would have been the premier strategy.

I think this was the strategy

My plan B would be for us to have a backup like Sams who is never going to be a pro prospect but can run a lethal zone read / RPO playbook.

[catastrophe]

IMO we should have been all in on Lewis since Sky went down. At least he hasn’t shown his ceiling yet. Howard had plenty of opportunity to develop and just never seemed to take much of a step forward.

I think Lewis has shown his ceiling

With zero starts.

Someone needs to come get their mans.

[MakeItRain]

I swear to rough ridin' God if y'all don't stop blaming the coaches for freshman back up quarterbacks looking like freshman backup quarterbacks. JESUS CHRIST.

Spencer Rattler is getting booed at home, D.J. Uiagalelei has the 99th best QBR in the country and y'all are firing coaches because our backups suck.

I swear to rough ridin' God.

Howard isn't a freshman.

Jaren Lewis is in year 3 of being in the program lol

What’s your point? He still hasn’t started a single game yet.

That he isn’t a freshman backup QB, he still looks lost despite having nearly 3 full years in the program.

Tell me the program in the country right now who has a scout team qb that would have looked competent not only playing but playing the first time on the road during a conference game in a sell out.

Considering the circumstance, he was absolutely serviceable.

[nicname]

IMO we should have been all in on Lewis since Sky went down. At least he hasn’t shown his ceiling yet. Howard had plenty of opportunity to develop and just never seemed to take much of a step forward.

Still think ruining Howard’s brain and gaining an extra blocker would have been the premier strategy.

I think this was the strategy

My plan B would be for us to have a backup like Sams who is never going to be a pro prospect but can run a lethal zone read / RPO playbook.

 

[MakeItRain]

IMO we should have been all in on Lewis since Sky went down. At least he hasn’t shown his ceiling yet. Howard had plenty of opportunity to develop and just never seemed to take much of a step forward.

Still think ruining Howard’s brain and gaining an extra blocker would have been the premier strategy.

I think this was the strategy

My plan B would be for us to have a backup like Sams who is never going to be a pro prospect but can run a lethal zone read / RPO playbook.

We couldn't keep him here and that was before the transfer portal.

[CHONGS]

It's easy to find a excuse.  Every program can find one if they look hard enough. 

[nicname]

I swear to rough ridin' God if y'all don't stop blaming the coaches for freshman back up quarterbacks looking like freshman backup quarterbacks. JESUS CHRIST.

Spencer Rattler is getting booed at home, D.J. Uiagalelei has the 99th best QBR in the country and y'all are firing coaches because our backups suck.

I swear to rough ridin' God.

Howard isn't a freshman.

Jaren Lewis is in year 3 of being in the program lol

What’s your point? He still hasn’t started a single game yet.

That he isn’t a freshman backup QB, he still looks lost despite having nearly 3 full years in the program.

Tell me the program in the country right now who has a scout team qb that would have looked competent not only playing but playing the first time on the road during a conference game in a sell out.

Considering the circumstance, he was absolutely serviceable.

Neutral site but Norte Dame (a small catholic school) had a 3rd stringer look pretty decent today.

[MakeItRain]

It's easy to find a excuse.  Every program can find one if they look hard enough.

Yet I'm still waiting for someone to give me one.

[nicname]

Tbh, not even mad.

[Hurricane Cat]

 

enjoying this weird argument about which of our under performing backup quarterbacks is the least impressive . . .

[catastrophe]

IMO we should have been all in on Lewis since Sky went down. At least he hasn’t shown his ceiling yet. Howard had plenty of opportunity to develop and just never seemed to take much of a step forward.

Still think ruining Howard’s brain and gaining an extra blocker would have been the premier strategy.

I think this was the strategy

My plan B would be for us to have a backup like Sams who is never going to be a pro prospect but can run a lethal zone read / RPO playbook.

We couldn't keep him here and that was before the transfer portal.

I get that. I’m just saying why not get an athlete who can play in packages and even take over a game when we’re desperate. I’m just sour on how our backups have played for as long as I can remember. It seems like we groom one kid to lead over the off-season and if that doesn’t work out we’re SOL. Klein and (to a lesser extent) Sams have to be the only non-season starting QBs in the last 15+ years who actually impressed while filling in.

[MakeItRain]

I swear to rough ridin' God if y'all don't stop blaming the coaches for freshman back up quarterbacks looking like freshman backup quarterbacks. JESUS CHRIST.

Spencer Rattler is getting booed at home, D.J. Uiagalelei has the 99th best QBR in the country and y'all are firing coaches because our backups suck.

I swear to rough ridin' God.

Howard isn't a freshman.

Jaren Lewis is in year 3 of being in the program lol

What’s your point? He still hasn’t started a single game yet.

That he isn’t a freshman backup QB, he still looks lost despite having nearly 3 full years in the program.

Tell me the program in the country right now who has a scout team qb that would have looked competent not only playing but playing the first time on the road during a conference game in a sell out.

Considering the circumstance, he was absolutely serviceable.

Neutral site but Norte Dame (a small catholic school) had a 3rd stringer look pretty decent today.

lol, he was the backup and he was 6/8 for 81 yards. He had less completions, less yards, and a lower QBR than Will Howard did when he came in for Skylar against Texas Tech.

Y'all keep reaching

[wetwillie]

Sucks baybay got hurt, we have so few playmakers as it is.  Hopefully we can get sky back for the clones as well.

[MakeItRain]

IMO we should have been all in on Lewis since Sky went down. At least he hasn’t shown his ceiling yet. Howard had plenty of opportunity to develop and just never seemed to take much of a step forward.

Still think ruining Howard’s brain and gaining an extra blocker would have been the premier strategy.

I think this was the strategy

My plan B would be for us to have a backup like Sams who is never going to be a pro prospect but can run a lethal zone read / RPO playbook.

We couldn't keep him here and that was before the transfer portal.

I get that. I’m just saying why not get an athlete who can play in packages and even take over a game when we’re desperate. I’m just sour on how our backups have played for as long as I can remember. It seems like we groom one kid to lead over the off-season and if that doesn’t work out we’re SOL. Klein and (to a lesser extent Sams) have to be the only non-season starting QBs in the last 15+ years who actually impressed while filling in.

If it was something that was easy to do everyone would do it. I mean that's what we did with Will last year and the last week and a half. In both cases it worked, until it didn't. You're not going to be able to gimmick through an entire season.

We'll find a QB in the transfer portal next year, I have no doubts. I think Mr. Bean stinks but he's better than Will and Jaren. We can find someone at least as good as Mr. Bean who wants to share the backfield with Deuce. Klieman better hope like hell he can, because I don't think these three guys are it.

[MakeItRain]

BTW, the most pissed off person in America has to be Jacardia. He was going to get a rush on the ball that Will fumbled into the end zone.

[kstate4life]

I’ll admit I’m not expert, but it makes absolutely no sense to me that Rubley doesn’t get a snap in this game. If Howard is hurt, and Lewis can’t get a single first down, why not? I don’t care if he’s not ready, he won’t lose a redshirt, and that’s just extra experience in a game you for sure would lose without him anyway.

[MakeItRain]

I’ll admit I’m not expert, but it makes absolutely no sense to me that Rubley doesn’t get a snap in this game. If Howard is hurt, and Lewis can’t get a single first down, why not? I don’t care if he’s not ready, he won’t lose a redshirt, and that’s just extra experience in a game you for sure would lose without him anyway.

The game was still in doubt after Deuce's touchdown. Also it isn't clear that Rubley is the next guy up. Last week Klieman was asked about the next QB after Lewis and he mentioned Max Marsh and Rubley together.

[michigancat]

Was Howard really hurt or was that fake news?

[kstate4life]

I’ll admit I’m not expert, but it makes absolutely no sense to me that Rubley doesn’t get a snap in this game. If Howard is hurt, and Lewis can’t get a single first down, why not? I don’t care if he’s not ready, he won’t lose a redshirt, and that’s just extra experience in a game you for sure would lose without him anyway.

The game was still in doubt after Deuce's touchdown. Also it isn't clear that Rubley is the next guy up. Last week Klieman was asked about the next QB after Lewis and he mentioned Max Marsh and Rubley together.

It was in doubt right after, but not after we did nothing on O for 4 straight drives. I personally had no doubt we were losing with Lewis still in after that. And that’s fine if Rubley isn’t next. Throw Marsh in there. Anything else please.

[Hurricane Cat]

Was Howard really hurt or was that fake news?

Good question.

Here is Klieman's quote from the postgame presser:

On Will Howard...
“He got hurt in the first half, and he couldn't go anymore in the first half. At halftime they did some things to work on
him. He tried to go in the second half and just couldn’t run the way he needed to run. Obviously in that first series,
we were able to get some quarterback run game going. When we lost Will, it took some of the play calling that
Coach Messingham was wanting to do away because that’s Will’s forte and not as much Jaren.”