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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2020, 02:02:48 PM »
the team isn't going winless in the big 12, you goofs.  good grief.
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2020, 02:06:14 PM »
CAN GENE’S ASS FIRST

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2020, 02:08:13 PM »
the team isn't going winless in the big 12, you goofs.  good grief.

What is the margin for error in winless vs technically winless?  Like 2-16 is basically the same as 0-18 right? Winless 0-2 wins, bottom dweller 3-5 wins, mediocre 6-9 wins, solid 10-13, elite 14-17.
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2020, 02:11:04 PM »
it's all the same to me, but 2 wins is numerically different than 0.
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2020, 02:13:35 PM »
Aesthetically very different too.

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2020, 02:59:20 PM »
6 wins (Kenny's projection)... take the over or the under.

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2020, 02:59:31 PM »
the team isn't going winless in the big 12, you goofs.  good grief.

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2020, 02:59:57 PM »
6 wins (Kenny's projection)... take the over or the under.

I took the over on seven with a friend yesterday...before the game.
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2020, 03:02:37 PM »
6 wins (Kenny's projection)... take the over or the under.

can someone make a kenpom login available to me?
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2020, 03:05:59 PM »
without benefit of kenpom, i'll say the under, just assuming that there will be some games cancelled so a higher winning % than kenpom expects will be needed to get to six.
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2020, 03:12:50 PM »

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2020, 05:37:28 PM »
As of today, we have a grand total of three games left on the schedule with >50% chance of winning according to kenpom. In fact there are only three games left on the schedule that kenpom gives us >33% chance of winning. Including those three, there are seven games on the schedule with a >20% chance of winning.

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #62 on: December 09, 2020, 06:23:10 PM »
i dunno how much of kenpom's formula today includes pre-season expectation vs this season's performance, but obviously the portion that is based on this season's performance is probably underestimating the performance for the rest of the season.

like, there is no possible way they aren't going to get better on defense.  it's just impossible.
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #63 on: December 09, 2020, 06:54:10 PM »
don't say that sys
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2020, 07:22:01 PM »
I'm pretty sure the FHSU game doesn't even count in his ratings so :dunno:.

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #65 on: December 09, 2020, 07:58:56 PM »
Here are the ten worst win percentages.

1999-00 9-19 .321
1943-44 7-15 .318
1942-43 6-14 .300
1938-39 5-13 .278
1934-35 5-15 .250
1921-22 3-14 .176
1945-46 4-20 .167
1933-34 3-15 .167
1922-23 2-14 .125
1907-08 1-12 .077   

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #66 on: December 09, 2020, 08:06:56 PM »
Jack Gardner has 4 of the top 12 win percentage seasons and also 2 of the bottom 14.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #67 on: December 09, 2020, 08:48:14 PM »
According to that site, oscar has had 7 of the top 15 strength of schedule seasons. Wow.

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #68 on: December 09, 2020, 09:51:36 PM »
According to that site, oscar has had 7 of the top 15 strength of schedule seasons. Wow.

big xii has been stacked at the top and also lack of true bottom feeders like rutgers, cal, etc

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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #69 on: December 09, 2020, 10:04:30 PM »
Jack Gardner has 4 of the top 12 win percentage seasons and also 2 of the bottom 14.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #70 on: December 09, 2020, 11:41:48 PM »
We are staring straight down the barrel of a winning percentage often referred to as “the interstate” in baseball parlance


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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2020, 08:29:04 AM »
Ned!

https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/seaton-plumbing-the-ksu-depths/article_8f1b2e0a-bebe-5cb9-855a-6fb5efc7cf19.html
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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2020, 10:12:19 AM »
How about some stats?

kenpom era national rankings.







Offense and defense in the 3PT era.




And this is with playing 1 team ranked in the kenpom top 60 so far. We have 14 more games against kenpom top 60 teams and 10 against top 10 teams.



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Re: Is this the lowest point KSU B-ball history?
« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2020, 10:27:14 AM »
well that is sobering to see.
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