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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: CHONGS on December 08, 2020, 08:42:15 PM
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Lower than Wooly
Lower than Asbury
I don't think it can ever recover.
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Football school again
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41 point loss to UMKC before tonight.
Tom
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oscar has proven he can coach (final four, elite 8 resume), what have these players proven?
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Yes, this is the lowest point.
This beat: UMKC, Altman's beat down at Okie State, Asbury's beat down at Arizona, Asbury's beat down at NC State and a few others. The before mentioned beatdowns aren't even in the same country as the debacle tonight, because most of those were against good to very good D1 P5 teams.
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what the rough ridin' eff
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Gene probably didn’t wake up today thinking he was going to have to fire his basketball coach before Christmas.
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Feel sorry for those who didn't see it coming. I suggest Gene make a move tonight an give the Ft. Hays coach a sixth-month contract before he leaves town.
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Feel sorry for those who didn't see it coming. I suggest Gene make a move tonight an give the Ft. Hays coach a sixth-month contract before he leaves town.
The head coach didn’t make the trip to Manhattan
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finally, i have a reason to pay attention again :fistpump:
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Feel sorry for those who didn't see it coming. I suggest Gene make a move tonight an give the Ft. Hays coach a sixth-month contract before he leaves town.
The head coach didn’t make the trip to Manhattan
Jeabus. Well, who is the disgraced Huggy out there now?
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Clearly pitino and Marshall
Did LSU guy get fired?
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Feel sorry for those who didn't see it coming. I suggest Gene make a move tonight an give the Ft. Hays coach a sixth-month contract before he leaves town.
The head coach didn’t make the trip to Manhattan
Jeabus. Well, who is the disgraced Huggy out there now?
I don’t know what that means but their head coach and main assistant didn’t coach tonight so it was the 3rd in command that check mated us tonight.
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I literally lolled when I saw the score.
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Clearly pitino and Marshall
Did LSU guy get fired?
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Don't see Gene having the balls to go there. Expect a Steve Alford hire to the great joy of our fan base.
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finally, i have a reason to pay attention again :fistpump:
your name came up in a conversation I had this past weekend
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This was just a game. We chose this in 2012.
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Lower than Wooly
Lower than Asbury
I don't think it can ever recover.
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
Nah because we'll go cheap and shitty. Watch Korn win the regular season OVC and turn that into the job here.
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Puke. I just puked.
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
It’s the most engaged I recall the fanbase being in a while.
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It’s been a number of years since I watched a Cats basketball game, and I really only follow the KU thread on this MBB board. So tonight I probably set a personal record for most threads read on this board in the last few years.
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This is the first time since covid that I feel totally alone.
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Oh yeah, this is for sure it. Our coaches are so shorty, lmao. WGAF though. It’s just basketball.
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
It’s the most engaged I recall the fanbase being in a while.
it's the most fun i've had watching a bball game since we played that maryland team in the tourney. or the illinois team, whichever one was most recent.
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oscar's program is a circus, and it needs to hit the road
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yes hello oscar? gtfo.
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yes hello oscar? gtfo.
The Word.
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
Nah because we'll go cheap and shitty. Watch Korn win the regular season OVC and turn that into the job here.
I want to be angry at you for even suggesting this, but the feeling in the bottom of my stomach tells me this is what we'll end up doing. :cry:
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
Nah because we'll go cheap and shitty. Watch Korn win the regular season OVC and turn that into the job here.
I don’t want Kanned Korn guys
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https://www.kstatecollegian.com/2016/03/22/the-death-of-the-k-state-family/
Remember, what could have been
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
Nah because we'll go cheap and shitty. Watch Korn win the regular season OVC and turn that into the job here.
I want to be angry at you for even suggesting this, but the feeling in the bottom of my stomach tells me this is what we'll end up doing. :cry:
Gene is going to fire oscar and bring in a SLTH, he will do better than Korn good grief.
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
Nah because we'll go cheap and shitty. Watch Korn win the regular season OVC and turn that into the job here.
I want to be angry at you for even suggesting this, but the feeling in the bottom of my stomach tells me this is what we'll end up doing. :cry:
Gene is going to fire oscar and bring in a SLTH, he will do better than Korn good grief.
Lol, he's not going to fire oscar.
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You all are way underestimating the goodwill that oscar has with the money people. He beats KU sometimes, he has a couple ships, he does it the "right" way and will never have a scandal. He's going to get 2-3 more years to get these last two classes up and running. I suppose if it all crashes and burns and they all transfer or something it could happen. But outside of another mutiny, oscar has another 2-3 years to achieve some semi respectable results, and if he does then he'll get another cycle to do the same. And honestly, that's probably the right thing to do. We should have hired Brad when we had the chance, but oscar is probably a better option than most for us right now.
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You all are way underestimating the goodwill that oscar has with the money people. He beats KU sometimes, he has a couple ships, he does it the "right" way and will never have a scandal. He's going to get 2-3 more years to get these last two classes up and running. I suppose if it all crashes and burns and they all transfer or something it could happen. But outside of another mutiny, oscar has another 2-3 years to achieve some semi respectable results, and if he does then he'll get another cycle to do the same. And honestly, that's probably the right thing to do. We should have hired Brad when we had the chance, but oscar is probably a better option than most for us right now.
You're underestimating how embarrassing last night was. 0-18 in conferences is a possibility, he's not surviving that.
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I’d argue this could be a high point in KSU basketball history.
Nah because we'll go cheap and shitty. Watch Korn win the regular season OVC and turn that into the job here.
I want to be angry at you for even suggesting this, but the feeling in the bottom of my stomach tells me this is what we'll end up doing. :cry:
Gene is going to fire oscar and bring in a SLTH, he will do better than Korn good grief.
Lol, he's not going to fire oscar.
He most assuredly will
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You all are way underestimating the goodwill that oscar has with the money people. He beats KU sometimes, he has a couple ships, he does it the "right" way and will never have a scandal. He's going to get 2-3 more years to get these last two classes up and running. I suppose if it all crashes and burns and they all transfer or something it could happen. But outside of another mutiny, oscar has another 2-3 years to achieve some semi respectable results, and if he does then he'll get another cycle to do the same. And honestly, that's probably the right thing to do. We should have hired Brad when we had the chance, but oscar is probably a better option than most for us right now.
You're underestimating how embarrassing last night was. 0-18 in conferences is a possibility, he's not surviving that.
This has been all the rage this morning. If he goes O’fer, gene will have no option but to #CanHisAss
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You all are way underestimating the goodwill that oscar has with the money people. He beats KU sometimes, he has a couple ships, he does it the "right" way and will never have a scandal. He's going to get 2-3 more years to get these last two classes up and running. I suppose if it all crashes and burns and they all transfer or something it could happen. But outside of another mutiny, oscar has another 2-3 years to achieve some semi respectable results, and if he does then he'll get another cycle to do the same. And honestly, that's probably the right thing to do. We should have hired Brad when we had the chance, but oscar is probably a better option than most for us right now.
You're underestimating how embarrassing last night was. 0-18 in conferences is a possibility, he's not surviving that.
I have to find it, but I think I talked about that scenario last year during a meltdown. I was pretty sure he would survive going 0fer. Exciting that we might test that out.
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First, he won't go 0-fer. Second, yeah, even if he did. Just chalk it up to covid and 2020, oscar has a proven track record, etc. He's not getting fired, you guys.
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If he goes 0-fer, and doesn't achieve above average results with this freshman class by the time they're juniors, I could see him moving on at that point.
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First, he won't go 0-fer. Second, yeah, even if he did. Just chalk it up to covid and 2020, oscar has a proven track record, etc. He's not getting fired, you guys.
whomst are we going to beat? not gEing here
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First, he won't go 0-fer. Second, yeah, even if he did. Just chalk it up to covid and 2020, oscar has a proven track record, etc. He's not getting fired, you guys.
whomst are we going to beat? not gEing here
We aren’t beating anyone in the big 12
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First, he won't go 0-fer. Second, yeah, even if he did. Just chalk it up to covid and 2020, oscar has a proven track record, etc. He's not getting fired, you guys.
whomst are we going to beat? not gEing here
I'm not sure, but it's so hard to go 0-fer, there will be teams that covid hits hard, oscar is a pretty decent coach, there's a lot of reasons we'll beat someone. Chance being a big one as well. We'll get hot at some point.
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if someone would have told me at the beginning of 2020 that the football + basketball programs would combine for less than 10 wins...actually you know what i think i probably would have believed it. i think in one of the early season predicto threads i predicted 4-5 wins for the football team and i think 5 wins for this basketball team is the ceiling and its a pretty high ceiling at that.
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What's up guys?
And the answer is yes.
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Gene has no choice, keeping him is not an option.
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Gene has no choice, keeping him is not an option.
Yup. I predict Gene will axe him sooner rather than later. this is gene's chance to hire another friend/family member and grossly overpay him. He won't run the risk of oscar upsetting KU and making it more difficult.
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CAN GENE’S ASS FIRST
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CAN GENE’S ASS FIRST
Insta fire Myers,Gene,oscar all at once.
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the team isn't going winless in the big 12, you goofs. good grief.
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CAN GENE’S ASS FIRST
Insta fire Myers,Gene,oscar all at once.
And Renz.
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the team isn't going winless in the big 12, you goofs. good grief.
What is the margin for error in winless vs technically winless? Like 2-16 is basically the same as 0-18 right? Winless 0-2 wins, bottom dweller 3-5 wins, mediocre 6-9 wins, solid 10-13, elite 14-17.
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it's all the same to me, but 2 wins is numerically different than 0.
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Aesthetically very different too.
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6 wins (Kenny's projection)... take the over or the under.
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the team isn't going winless in the big 12, you goofs. good grief.
Thank you.
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6 wins (Kenny's projection)... take the over or the under.
I took the over on seven with a friend yesterday...before the game.
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6 wins (Kenny's projection)... take the over or the under.
can someone make a kenpom login available to me?
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without benefit of kenpom, i'll say the under, just assuming that there will be some games cancelled so a higher winning % than kenpom expects will be needed to get to six.
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CAN GENE’S ASS FIRST
Insta fire Myers,Gene,oscar all at once.
And Renz.
Full coup.
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As of today, we have a grand total of three games left on the schedule with >50% chance of winning according to kenpom. In fact there are only three games left on the schedule that kenpom gives us >33% chance of winning. Including those three, there are seven games on the schedule with a >20% chance of winning.
I can't even...
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i dunno how much of kenpom's formula today includes pre-season expectation vs this season's performance, but obviously the portion that is based on this season's performance is probably underestimating the performance for the rest of the season.
like, there is no possible way they aren't going to get better on defense. it's just impossible.
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don't say that sys
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I'm pretty sure the FHSU game doesn't even count in his ratings so :dunno:.
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Here are the ten worst win percentages.
1999-00 9-19 .321
1943-44 7-15 .318
1942-43 6-14 .300
1938-39 5-13 .278
1934-35 5-15 .250
1921-22 3-14 .176
1945-46 4-20 .167
1933-34 3-15 .167
1922-23 2-14 .125
1907-08 1-12 .077
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Jack Gardner has 4 of the top 12 win percentage seasons and also 2 of the bottom 14.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/
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According to that site, oscar has had 7 of the top 15 strength of schedule seasons. Wow.
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According to that site, oscar has had 7 of the top 15 strength of schedule seasons. Wow.
big xii has been stacked at the top and also lack of true bottom feeders like rutgers, cal, etc
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Jack Gardner has 4 of the top 12 win percentage seasons and also 2 of the bottom 14.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/
War or immediate post-war years were like Covid year squared.
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We are staring straight down the barrel of a winning percentage often referred to as “the interstate” in baseball parlance
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Ned!
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/seaton-plumbing-the-ksu-depths/article_8f1b2e0a-bebe-5cb9-855a-6fb5efc7cf19.html
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Ned!
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/seaton-plumbing-the-ksu-depths/article_8f1b2e0a-bebe-5cb9-855a-6fb5efc7cf19.html
He's gone full Tom Keegan!
I've never heard this term but I'm gonna try to use it in a conversation soon:
I mean….it’s what an editor at The Mercury used to call “prismatically” bad: It’s bad any way you look at it.
Also, he used the term clipped. When I was a kid, the Salina Journal would always have clipped in their sports headlines. Maybe it is making a comeback.
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How about some stats?
kenpom era national rankings.
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Offense and defense in the 3PT era.
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And this is with playing 1 team ranked in the kenpom top 60 so far. We have 14 more games against kenpom top 60 teams and 10 against top 10 teams.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EozKNMzXUAAcH9d?format=png&name=900x900)
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well that is sobering to see.
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That is depressing _FWN but thanks for sharing
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Hi fan! Those 90's and early aughts offenses :Yuck:
This year's adjusted D seems like a liar, I don't think it could be worse
The TOR :ROFL:
My kenpom expired on Monday, I was going to renew, but I was like, nah I'm going to take this year off, I don't think I'll be making a habit of checking our numbers often this year.
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Hi fan! Those 90's and early aughts offenses :Yuck:
This year's adjusted D seems like a liar, I don't think it could be worse
The TOR :ROFL:
My kenpom expired on Monday, I was going to renew, but I was like, nah I'm going to take this year off, I don't think I'll be making a habit of checking our numbers often this year.
Yeah, I have no idea how kenpom has our adjusted D so high. We've allowed 1.24, 1.15, 0.95, 1.08, and 1.11 PPP in 5 games. Total raw PPP allowed 1.11 for the year, but the adjust rate is 0.97. I'm assuming a big part is that FHSU stats count for the raw number, but not the adjusted b/c they are D2 and he doesn't count D2 into his ranking.
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those graphs remind me of the nebraska cornhusker vanity plates
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Ned!
https://themercury.com/k_state_sports/seaton-plumbing-the-ksu-depths/article_8f1b2e0a-bebe-5cb9-855a-6fb5efc7cf19.html
He's gone full Tom Keegan!
I've never heard this term but I'm gonna try to use it in a conversation soon:
I mean….it’s what an editor at The Mercury used to call “prismatically” bad: It’s bad any way you look at it.
Also, he used the term clipped. When I was a kid, the Salina Journal would always have clipped in their sports headlines. Maybe it is making a comeback.
It is clear that Ned reads gE.c. Both the basketball and football boards. Hi, Ned! Remember that time I was in high school and I mowed your lawn once? Well, contrary to what I told you two decades ago, I did not end up becoming a journalist.
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well oscar is still pulling 3 figures on cameo, so that cant be close to rock bottom
https://www.cameo.com/bruceweber?qid=1607945949 (https://www.cameo.com/bruceweber?qid=1607945949)
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well oscar is still pulling 3 figures on cameo, so that cant be close to rock bottom
https://www.cameo.com/bruceweber?qid=1607945949 (https://www.cameo.com/bruceweber?qid=1607945949)
:sdeek:
I guess #oscar needs to start selling these things too.
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well oscar is still pulling 3 figures on cameo, so that cant be close to rock bottom
https://www.cameo.com/bruceweber?qid=1607945949 (https://www.cameo.com/bruceweber?qid=1607945949)
:lol:
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I'm curious about what Trim will get him to say
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I'm curious about what Trim will get him to say
Buyer's choice.
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I'm pretty sure we auctioned this off at a FattyFest before too. It might've been part of selling that book written by the KSU football player who ended up being a sex offender and having #oscar read a selection, or maybe a personalized message from #oscar to mocat.
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the team isn't going winless in the big 12, you goofs. good grief.
Thank you.
Do you dorks feel silly now? Just a preposterous prediction.
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You guys are so money and you don't even know it. This Brucleus of young players will eventually coalesce into a squad of ballers. This is a proto-superteam.
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this is a super team, I think you’re right
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You guys are so money and you don't even know it. This Brucleus of young players will eventually coalesce into a squad of ballers. This is a proto-superteam.
We're gonna beat your asses too.
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TODAY'S SPORTS EXTRA
SE: K-State Men's Hoops Does the Little Things in Perfect Start to Big 12 Play
December 17, 2020
By Austin Siegel
Be honest: You were waiting for Iowa State to make a run.
With K-State up double digits but fighting through a second half shooting slump, the Cyclones always seemed on the verge of clawing their way back into Tuesday night's Big 12 opener.
But they never did, and K-State never trailed after the opening minutes of a 74-65 win in Ames.
"I told them before the game, UNLV banks in a three, Fort Hays banks in a three. Those plays happen because your mindset is in the right place," oscar Weber said. "Those are the kind of plays that make a difference."
Is this how we lost those games?
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he is right in how momentum shifts win games but he's wrong in not accepting responsibility for managing who benefits from the momentum shift. so in other words, typical oscar
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TODAY'S SPORTS EXTRA
SE: K-State Men's Hoops Does the Little Things in Perfect Start to Big 12 Play
December 17, 2020
By Austin Siegel
Be honest: You were waiting for Iowa State to make a run.
With K-State up double digits but fighting through a second half shooting slump, the Cyclones always seemed on the verge of clawing their way back into Tuesday night's Big 12 opener.
But they never did, and K-State never trailed after the opening minutes of a 74-65 win in Ames.
"I told them before the game, UNLV banks in a three, Fort Hays banks in a three. Those plays happen because your mindset is in the right place," oscar Weber said. "Those are the kind of plays that make a difference."
Is this how we lost those games?
UNLV’s Will Spradling alley oop dunked on us on a breakaway and we never recovered.
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TODAY'S SPORTS EXTRA
SE: K-State Men's Hoops Does the Little Things in Perfect Start to Big 12 Play
December 17, 2020
By Austin Siegel
Be honest: You were waiting for Iowa State to make a run.
With K-State up double digits but fighting through a second half shooting slump, the Cyclones always seemed on the verge of clawing their way back into Tuesday night's Big 12 opener.
But they never did, and K-State never trailed after the opening minutes of a 74-65 win in Ames.
"I told them before the game, UNLV banks in a three, Fort Hays banks in a three. Those plays happen because your mindset is in the right place," oscar Weber said. "Those are the kind of plays that make a difference."
Is this how we lost those games?
UNLV’s Will Spradling alley oop dunked on us on a breakaway and we never recovered.
Hate them both
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And this is with playing 1 team ranked in the kenpom top 60 so far. We have 14 more games against kenpom top 60 teams and 10 against top 10 teams.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EozKNMzXUAAcH9d?format=png&name=900x900)
Looks like the Root and Knorr are safe at the bottom with a .167 winning percentage in 33-34 and 45-46 respectively. I think the closest oscar could get this season is .185 (5-22), which is very likely.
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Curtiss put up a .125 in 22-23. E.C. is the standard-bearer in futility, and oscar is coming for that ass.
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Curtiss put up a .125 in 22-23. E.C. is the standard-bearer in futility, and oscar is coming for that ass.
How can he match this overall?
I did notice Curtiss' 2-14 season was a conference (MVC) only slate, so oscar does have a great opportunity to eclipse that as well as the absolute destruction of the shared conference futility crown of 1-9 (.100) held jointly by KSU giants Chili Cochrane and Cliff Rock in 42-43 and 43-44 respectively.
oscar's likely 1-16 (.059) conference record -- assuming no makeup games -- would be a standard unlikely ever to be matched.
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Curtiss put up a .125 in 22-23. E.C. is the standard-bearer in futility, and oscar is coming for that ass.
How can he match this overall?
I did notice Curtiss' 2-14 season was a conference (MVC) only slate, so oscar does have a great opportunity to eclipse that as well as the absolute destruction of the shared conference futility crown of 1-9 (.100) held jointly by KSU giants Chili Cochrane and Cliff Rock in 42-43 and 43-44 respectively.
oscar's likely 1-16 (.059) conference record -- assuming no makeup games -- would be a standard unlikely ever to be matched.
He can’t get to that .125, but a season in which he’d 1) end The Streak, 2) smash his own record for consecutive Bramlage losses, and 3) set a new undisputed record for consecutive losses overall that previously stood for nearly a century would make oscar the new king IMO.
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Curtiss put up a .125 in 22-23. E.C. is the standard-bearer in futility, and oscar is coming for that ass.
How can he match this overall?
I did notice Curtiss' 2-14 season was a conference (MVC) only slate, so oscar does have a great opportunity to eclipse that as well as the absolute destruction of the shared conference futility crown of 1-9 (.100) held jointly by KSU giants Chili Cochrane and Cliff Rock in 42-43 and 43-44 respectively.
oscar's likely 1-16 (.059) conference record -- assuming no makeup games -- would be a standard unlikely ever to be matched.
He can’t get to that .125, but a season in which he’d 1) end The Streak, 2) smash his own record for consecutive Bramlage losses, and 3) set a new undisputed record for consecutive losses overall that previously stood for nearly a century would make oscar the new king IMO.
Let’s be honest, EC probably wouldn’t have been able to keep his guys from winning a few more games had his Cats scheduled a few non-con tomato cans. Advantage oscar.
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Let’s be honest, EC probably wouldn’t have been able to keep his guys from winning a few more games had his Cats scheduled a few non-con tomato cans. Advantage oscar.
True, and that actually leads us to another good point. oscar did exactly that, and still ended up taking an L to hays.
We're really not appreciating enough the history we've been afforded the opportunity to watch*.
*acknowledging a lot of it's been on janky espn+
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*acknowledging a lot of it's been on janky espn+
It’s a historical run that much more fun to research than watch. I’ve spent probably 1 hour or so actually watching Cat hoops this season.
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Ask not for whom history awaits
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that'd really be something if he was able to take down cochrane-rocks. i don't think anyone had that on their list, preseason.
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Chili Cochrane is an incredible sports name, it's too bad he ended up being historically shitty.
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Incidentally, our guy EC Curtis managed the only season without a home conference win in 1923, another dubious distinction oscar could join.
Worst single seasons, overall and conference.
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Worst back to back seasons.
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There could be a whole lot of banners to print up at year-end. Not unlike it taking two men to achieve some of those consecutive seasons of futility, it could be a job that hemmy and befr will need to pool resources for.
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Curtiss put up a .125 in 22-23. E.C. is the standard-bearer in futility, and oscar is coming for that ass.
How can he match this overall?
I did notice Curtiss' 2-14 season was a conference (MVC) only slate, so oscar does have a great opportunity to eclipse that as well as the absolute destruction of the shared conference futility crown of 1-9 (.100) held jointly by KSU giants Chili Cochrane and Cliff Rock in 42-43 and 43-44 respectively.
oscar's likely 1-16 (.059) conference record -- assuming no makeup games -- would be a standard unlikely ever to be matched.
He (EC) was a handsome fellow though.
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Lower than Wooly
Lower than Asbury
I think the original post was in response to a particular loss. In another sense, going ten Asbury/Wooly years without making the tourament could be considered the "lowest point".
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Lower than Wooly
Lower than Asbury
I think the original post was in response to a particular loss. In another sense, going ten Asbury/Wooly years without making the tourament could be considered the "lowest point".
I agree. The macro was much worse back then. This team actually reminds me of wooly's later teams. You can see there is talent on the team with the individual players but there's very little hope that they will see their potential with the current staff. That 2006-07 team had enough talent to be more than a bit team but Huggins only had the one year with them. The 2005, '06, and '07 teams were all good enough to make the tournament, none did because that staff hampered their growth.
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Lower than Wooly
Lower than Asbury
I think the original post was in response to a particular loss. In another sense, going ten Asbury/Wooly years without making the tourament could be considered the "lowest point".
I agree. The macro was much worse back then. This team actually reminds me of wooly's later teams. You can see there is talent on the team with the individual players but there's very little hope that they will see their potential with the current staff. That 2006-07 team had enough talent to be more than a bit team but Huggins only had the one year with them. The 2005, '06, and '07 teams were all good enough to make the tournament, none did because that staff hampered their growth.
Yep, these seasons are awful and the record compared to history speaks for itself.
However, the facilities are pretty good and any reasonable coach can see a program 2 years removed from a league title and overall with 9 NCAAs, 2 Elite 8s and 2 league titles in the last 15 years.
I'm just not sure the money to fire/hire a good replacement is going to be there this year at this point.
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Lower than Wooly
Lower than Asbury
I think the original post was in response to a particular loss. In another sense, going ten Asbury/Wooly years without making the tourament could be considered the "lowest point".
I agree. The macro was much worse back then. This team actually reminds me of wooly's later teams. You can see there is talent on the team with the individual players but there's very little hope that they will see their potential with the current staff. That 2006-07 team had enough talent to be more than a bit team but Huggins only had the one year with them. The 2005, '06, and '07 teams were all good enough to make the tournament, none did because that staff hampered their growth.
That’s a good comparison, a competent coach could come in and have a good foundation of guys with pack, Bradford and Miguel to build around
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the team isn't going winless in the big 12, you goofs. good grief.
Thank you.
Do you dorks feel silly now? Just a preposterous prediction.
Bump
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Yo, they played sandstorm tonight
https://twitter.com/kstatevangirl/status/1364428390850256899
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This season may narrowly avoid being the lowest point in K-State basketball, but I can guarantee that being #7 and losing to this K-State team tonight absolutely is the lowest point in OU basketball history. We're their Fort Hays State.
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This season may narrowly avoid being the lowest point in K-State basketball, but I can guarantee that being #7 and losing to this K-State team tonight absolutely is the lowest point in OU basketball history. We're their Fort Hays State.
Yeah, if Fort Hays State had beaten them every year for like nine years in a row.
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https://twitter.com/kstatembb/status/1364434495076593666?s=21
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That's oscar for ya
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i can' t believe how wrong so many of us were about oscar. it's crazy what a great coach he is.
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i can' t believe how wrong so many of us were about oscar. it's crazy what a great coach he is.
lol. Just enjoy the win, man.
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I feel like this could be the lowest point for college basketball in general.
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This season doesn't really matter, anyway.
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i think it's great that we've established that oscar is good enough of a coach for us. because now that we have now won 3 B12 games this season (out of 16 chances), who says we won't win more?
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i can' t believe how wrong so many of us were about oscar. it's crazy what a great coach he is.
lol. Just enjoy the win, man.
i don't live in a one game vacuum. i'm glad that you and many others can enjoy 3-13.
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i can' t believe how wrong so many of us were about oscar. it's crazy what a great coach he is.
lol. Just enjoy the win, man.
i don't live in a one game vacuum. i'm glad that you and many others can enjoy 3-13.
Last night was fun, well really just the last 4 minutes, because we were down 7 and missed 6 straight 3s before that, but my eyes are still on the prize. The program is still a mess right now, happy the players are still playing hard tho.
What winless Iowa State did last night is probably more impressive than what we did, but really who cares?
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Kansas State moves into a tie for first place for number of Big 12 games won in Bramlage this season with 1. This locks up a share of the title, however, a streak of outright titles probably dates back to 1944 so I'm hoping we can beat Iowa State to secure an extension of that streak.
we definitely don't need a new head coach since he won one conference game at home and extended the streak.
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Man, the never brucers have really went out of their way the last two games to make sure it's all about themselves. You will not be semi happy by a few games on their watch. No glimpse of sunshine for you! Somethings never change.
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Man, the never brucers have really went out of their way the last two games to make sure it's all about themselves. You will not be semi happy by a few games on their watch. No glimpse of sunshine for you! Somethings never change.
last night was cool
but doesn't really change reality
in 2005-06 Wooly beat KU in Allen
didn't really change the fact it was time to move on
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Man, the never brucers have really went out of their way the last two games to make sure it's all about themselves. You will not be semi happy by a few games on their watch. No glimpse of sunshine for you! Somethings never change.
last night was cool
but doesn't really change reality
in 2005-06 Wooly beat KU in Allen
didn't really change the fact it was time to move on
Wooly never won two big 12 championships, went to an elite 8, and broke their rivals streak. That's fine if you want to move on and pay a 3 million dollar buyout in a pandemic, where the University has let go of several professors due to it, but not on my watch. I'm just inspired by the players. It would have been easy to give up on the season. Let us be happy for them.
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i can' t believe how wrong so many of us were about oscar. it's crazy what a great coach he is.
lol. Just enjoy the win, man.
i don't live in a one game vacuum. i'm glad that you and many others can enjoy 3-13.
Last night was fun, well really just the last 4 minutes, because we were down 7 and missed 6 straight 3s before that, but my eyes are still on the prize. The program is still a mess right now, happy the players are still playing hard tho.
What winless Iowa State did last night is probably more impressive than what we did, but really who cares?
definitely happy for the players and surprised and encouraged that they haven't mailed it in. i've got to think that some of that should be attributed to mcguirl. credit where it's due.
it's much easier for fans to give up, as so many have.
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I can't believe he got the guys to buy into the slap the floor
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Man, the never brucers have really went out of their way the last two games to make sure it's all about themselves. You will not be semi happy by a few games on their watch. No glimpse of sunshine for you! Somethings never change.
last night was cool
but doesn't really change reality
in 2005-06 Wooly beat KU in Allen
didn't really change the fact it was time to move on
Wooly never won two big 12 championships, went to an elite 8, and broke their rivals streak. That's fine if you want to move on and pay a 3 million dollar buyout in a pandemic, where the University has let go of several professors due to it, but not on my watch. I'm just inspired by the players. It would have been easy to give up on the season. Let us be happy for them.
KSU firing oscar and letting go of professors has absolutely nothing to do with one another.
For the record, I did enjoy the game last night! I loved how McGuirl was nailing 3s and then missed a terrible one (think it was shot-clock induced) but eff it because we're not really playing for anything so let's live or die by the senior. AND WE LIVED!
That doesn't change anything about oscar. We'll be back here 4 years from now because he has proven he doesn't give a crap how uneven our classes are. He gets to suck ass for 2 years while taking a vacation from recruiting and KSU is cool with it. It's also much easier to be good when your team is made up of all upperclassmen.
I can't believe he got the guys to buy into the slap the floor
AND IT IMPROVED DEFENSE PER _FWN'S STATS!!
How long until the Bram court claims adds a wrist to go along with all the feet it's injured?
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What are the straight projected stats on how efficient our offense would be if our opponents slapped floors?
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i can' t believe how wrong so many of us were about oscar. it's crazy what a great coach he is.
lol. Just enjoy the win, man.
i don't live in a one game vacuum. i'm glad that you and many others can enjoy 3-13.
Last night was fun, well really just the last 4 minutes, because we were down 7 and missed 6 straight 3s before that, but my eyes are still on the prize. The program is still a mess right now, happy the players are still playing hard tho.
What winless Iowa State did last night is probably more impressive than what we did, but really who cares?
definitely happy for the players and surprised and encouraged that they haven't mailed it in. i've got to think that some of that should be attributed to mcguirl. credit where it's due.
it's much easier for fans to give up, as so many have.
For sure. Also last night was just the perfect duality of Mike and this basketball team. He was awful for 35 minutes. Made four threes in five attempts, a couple of them, very ill advised., then held on as we kinda mismanaged the end of the game.
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i can' t believe how wrong so many of us were about oscar. it's crazy what a great coach he is.
lol. Just enjoy the win, man.
i don't live in a one game vacuum. i'm glad that you and many others can enjoy 3-13.
Last night was fun, well really just the last 4 minutes, because we were down 7 and missed 6 straight 3s before that, but my eyes are still on the prize. The program is still a mess right now, happy the players are still playing hard tho.
What winless Iowa State did last night is probably more impressive than what we did, but really who cares?
definitely happy for the players and surprised and encouraged that they haven't mailed it in. i've got to think that some of that should be attributed to mcguirl. credit where it's due.
it's much easier for fans to give up, as so many have.
For sure. Also last night was just the perfect duality of Mike and this basketball team. He was awful for 35 minutes. Made four threes in five attempts, a couple of them, very ill advised., then held on as we kinda mismanaged the end of the game.
That left handed dunk in transition with a nice flex at the end with a TO and sandstorm playing would have been amazing with a full OOD.
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