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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1475 on: December 05, 2023, 10:48:01 AM »
Very interesting table from "The KState Fan". Looks like Jax Dineen is out of football?



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« Reply #1476 on: December 05, 2023, 10:51:05 AM »
Very interesting table from "The KState Fan". Looks like Jax Dineen is out of football?


It's pretty remarkable how much better the incoming players have done relative to anyone who left

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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1477 on: December 05, 2023, 11:11:35 AM »
Very interesting table from "The KState Fan". Looks like Jax Dineen is out of football?


It's pretty remarkable how much better the incoming players have done relative to anyone who left
Yeah. I could be reading the chart wrong but it doesn't look like many players in the "out" column have gone on to be P5 all-conference type players. We've picked up some really good players in the portal: Brents, Stubblefield, Warner, 9AM, Josh Hayes.

Also, I think Josh Youngblood's career may have peaked as a freshman at KSU.

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« Reply #1478 on: December 05, 2023, 11:14:54 AM »
The "In" group in 2021 was amazing portaling.
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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1479 on: December 05, 2023, 11:18:09 AM »
Last year we lost 3 to P5 teams.  I'm expecting we're at 4 this year.  Overall numbers may indicate missing on an initial evaluation or development as much as losing talent.

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« Reply #1480 on: December 05, 2023, 11:33:58 AM »
Matlack will end up P5
Will Lee will end up P5
Ward will end up P5

Can't think of anyone else that would be slam dunk P5 guys but I'm probably missing one.
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« Reply #1481 on: December 05, 2023, 11:35:11 AM »
Matlack will end up P5
Will Lee will end up P5
Ward will end up P5

Can't think of anyone else that would be slam dunk P5 guys but I'm probably missing one.

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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1482 on: December 05, 2023, 12:00:44 PM »
Very interesting table from "The KState Fan". Looks like Jax Dineen is out of football?



guess we lost more last year than I remembered.

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« Reply #1483 on: December 05, 2023, 12:00:55 PM »
Last year we lost 3 to P5 teams.  I'm expecting we're at 4 this year.  Overall numbers may indicate missing on an initial evaluation or development as much as losing talent.

Also as your talent level rises, ideally more of your transfers go to better programs and it doesn't kill you. Will leaving with Avery ready to take over is a great example
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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1484 on: December 05, 2023, 12:55:27 PM »
Matlack will end up P5
Will Lee will end up P5
Ward will end up P5

Can't think of anyone else that would be slam dunk P5 guys but I'm probably missing one.

Howard
Unless he chooses to prioritize “close to home” or chance to throw 8000 times (SMU, etc.)

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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1485 on: December 05, 2023, 01:07:02 PM »
Matlack will end up P5
Will Lee will end up P5
Ward will end up P5

Can't think of anyone else that would be slam dunk P5 guys but I'm probably missing one.

Howard

Yea can't believe I overlooked that one, good catch.
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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1486 on: December 05, 2023, 01:18:49 PM »
Very interesting table from "The KState Fan". Looks like Jax Dineen is out of football?


It's pretty remarkable how much better the incoming players have done relative to anyone who left
Yeah. I could be reading the chart wrong but it doesn't look like many players in the "out" column have gone on to be P5 all-conference type players. We've picked up some really good players in the portal: Brents, Stubblefield, Warner, 9AM, Josh Hayes.

Also, I think Josh Youngblood's career may have peaked as a freshman at KSU.

Yeah, it is impressive how much we actually improved in the portal. 2021 incoming had tons of key players for that champ year in Brents, Stubblefield, Yeast, and Warner
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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1487 on: December 05, 2023, 02:07:18 PM »
Very interesting table from "The KState Fan". Looks like Jax Dineen is out of football?


It's pretty remarkable how much better the incoming players have done relative to anyone who left
Yeah. I could be reading the chart wrong but it doesn't look like many players in the "out" column have gone on to be P5 all-conference type players. We've picked up some really good players in the portal: Brents, Stubblefield, Warner, 9AM, Josh Hayes.

Also, I think Josh Youngblood's career may have peaked as a freshman at KSU.

Yeah, it is impressive how much we actually improved in the portal. 2021 incoming had tons of key players for that champ year in Brents, Stubblefield, Yeast, and Warner

That's exactly how the portal is supposed to work. Guys that that risked getting buried on the depth chart portaled out, guys who thought they'd get a nice role at a competitive program portaled in. It really should be the expectation. That the "out" column would be made up mostly of guys who aren't going to excel in another P4 program. Howard could be an exception.

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« Reply #1488 on: December 05, 2023, 02:27:12 PM »
it does help schools like us because we're just good enough to where we can keep most of our good players. the top schools will improve too but the difference between a portal add and a blue chip guy in the program probably isn't too big on average.

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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1489 on: December 05, 2023, 03:29:02 PM »
Matlack will end up P5
Will Lee will end up P5
Ward will end up P5

Can't think of anyone else that would be slam dunk P5 guys but I'm probably missing one.

Howard

Yea can't believe I overlooked that one, good catch.

What about the other two QB leaving?  I know Jake Rubley is a 4-star.
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« Reply #1490 on: December 05, 2023, 03:53:24 PM »
If Rubley thinks he can sling it at the P5 level, he's going to have to compete for a spot.  I would expect that he would still be better off going G5, slinging it, and grad transferring to the P5 after.

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« Reply #1491 on: December 05, 2023, 04:12:22 PM »
Yeah, Rubley isn’t walking into either a P5 or G5 starting job


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« Reply #1492 on: December 05, 2023, 08:46:09 PM »
Yeah, Rubley isn’t walking into either a P5 or G5 starting job


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Didn't say the same thing about Howard several times during his first few years at KSU?
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« Reply #1493 on: December 05, 2023, 09:20:51 PM »
Yeah, Rubley isn’t walking into either a P5 or G5 starting job


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Didn't say the same thing about Howard several times during his first few years at KSU?
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« Reply #1494 on: December 06, 2023, 03:16:33 PM »
Yeah, Rubley isn’t walking into either a P5 or G5 starting job


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Didn't say the same thing about Howard several times during his first few years at KSU?
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Howard didn't exactly walk into his starting job.  I'd assume Rubley would want to go somewhere that is basically going to name him the starter for next season.

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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1495 on: December 06, 2023, 04:48:54 PM »
Rubley will probably end up at a G5 or a P4 backup again.

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« Reply #1496 on: December 06, 2023, 05:09:05 PM »
Rubley will probably end up at a G5 or a P4 backup again.

Took me a sec to figure out what you meant by P4.  A lot has happened recently.

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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1498 on: December 06, 2023, 11:00:31 PM »
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Re: Portal Kombat
« Reply #1499 on: December 07, 2023, 06:53:11 AM »
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