The Biden (interim) Dictator

[sys]

mostly resurgent coronavirus, imo.  maybe a bit of inflation too.  probably too early for afghanistan to be influencing much.

https://twitter.com/micahcohen/status/1426238324008701953

[passranch]

mostly resurgent coronavirus, imo.  maybe a bit of inflation too.  probably too early for afghanistan to be influencing much.

https://twitter.com/micahcohen/status/1426238324008701953

Probably a lot of the "at least he's not rough ridin' Trump" factor wearing off too.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If "doing what we are doing" prevents a theocratic Taliban government from having a reign of terror over a nation, then we should keep doing that. It's easy to continue doing what we are doing. No need to change anything.

Easy for who?  I am a little conflicted because of course there are going to be a lot of people victimized, but I also think we can’t just stay in Afghanistan forever and shrinking the empire is good.


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Status quo is always easy. It's already budgeted for and requires nothing politically. I would have been fine with a withdrawal if it wouldn't have allowed the Taliban to simply roll in, but in hindsight, it was a terrible idea. I also think Biden probably had generals advising him that this would likely happen.

[Kat Kid]

If "doing what we are doing" prevents a theocratic Taliban government from having a reign of terror over a nation, then we should keep doing that. It's easy to continue doing what we are doing. No need to change anything.

Easy for who?  I am a little conflicted because of course there are going to be a lot of people victimized, but I also think we can’t just stay in Afghanistan forever and shrinking the empire is good.


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Status quo is always easy. It's already budgeted for and requires nothing politically. I would have been fine with a withdrawal if it wouldn't have allowed the Taliban to simply roll in, but in hindsight, it was a terrible idea. I also think Biden probably had generals advising him that this would likely happen.

The status quo was continuing an indefinite occupation and the longest war in American history.


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[Rage Against the McKee]

Yes, and clearly that would have been the correct course of action.

[catastrophe]

My overly simplified view is that the country is returning to the state it was in before we effectively occupied it. It’s clearly a failure of what we set out to achieve, but there is no basis to believe that staying longer would have made it less of a failure.

[Kat Kid]

Yes, and clearly that would have been the correct course of action.

After 20 plus years it is hard to say we made much progress and Afghanistan irregulars have a pretty incredible track record, against empires so this day was coming at some point one way or another.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yes, and clearly that would have been the correct course of action.

After 20 plus years it is hard to say we made much progress and Afghanistan irregulars have a pretty incredible track record, against empires so this day was coming at some point one way or another.

We could just as easily have maintained a presence indefinitely, just as we have in Germany, Japan, and just about everywhere else we have ever sent soldiers. Maybe we could have even increased resources and actually made progress. Just about anything would be better than the current crap show.

[MakeItRain]

Yes, and clearly that would have been the correct course of action.

No, it wouldn't have. The correct course of action would have been to get rid of the Taliban, as wars generally have a mission to be accomplished.

Like you I did advocate for permanent bases, but I don't think it would work in Afghanistan like it has in other places, I don't think there would have been a long term appetite from afghanistanis for that.

[420seriouscat69]

https://twitter.com/kendilaniannbc/status/1426884388999028736?s=21

[chum1]

How does this issue poll with the public? I'm under the impression that withdrawl is pretty popular.

[Rage Against the McKee]

How does this issue poll with the public? I'm under the impression that withdrawl is pretty popular.

I think it would have polled very well a few weeks ago.

[sonofdaxjones]

A poll a few weeks ago would have included Biden’s assurances that the Afghan Army was going to stop the Taliban.

The offloading of blame on to Trump is LOL’able.

[Kat Kid]

A good tell on the admin policy will be if Biden goes to Afghanistan or if Kamala goes. If Biden goes we are surging troops, if Kamala goes we are sticking with the withdrawal.

[Rage Against the McKee]

A poll a few weeks ago would have included Biden’s assurances that the Afghan Army was going to stop the Taliban.

The offloading of blame on to Trump is LOL’able.

The assurances wouldn't be important. You would be polling the general public as to whether or not US soldiers should be in harm's way, and that is all of the information that they would have. Biden has access to a whole lot more information than the public does, and has a responsibility to do what is unpopular when necessary.

[sonofdaxjones]

A poll a few weeks ago would have included Biden’s assurances that the Afghan Army was going to stop the Taliban.

The offloading of blame on to Trump is LOL’able.

The assurances wouldn't be important. You would be polling the general public as to whether or not US soldiers should be in harm's way, and that is all of the information that they would have. Biden has access to a whole lot more information than the public does, and has a responsibility to do what is unpopular when necessary.

But yesterday he tried to offload it all on Trump.   

Blinkie sucks ass and was completely destroyed by the Russians and Chinese who ensured the US would have all kinds of problems getting access to bases around Afghanistan.

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/maxabrahms/status/1426903523996880902?s=21

[sonofdaxjones]

Reporter:  Is a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan now inevitable?

The President:  No, it is not.

[chum1]

I don't know what the ethical thing for us to do here is, but  .

https://twitter.com/LNajafizada/status/1426852794175270915

[Rage Against the McKee]

A poll a few weeks ago would have included Biden’s assurances that the Afghan Army was going to stop the Taliban.

The offloading of blame on to Trump is LOL’able.

The assurances wouldn't be important. You would be polling the general public as to whether or not US soldiers should be in harm's way, and that is all of the information that they would have. Biden has access to a whole lot more information than the public does, and has a responsibility to do what is unpopular when necessary.

But yesterday he tried to offload it all on Trump.   

Blinkie sucks ass and was completely destroyed by the Russians and Chinese who ensured the US would have all kinds of problems getting access to bases around Afghanistan.

I agree that "just as bad as Trump" is a disgustingly low standard that people are attempting to hold Biden to.

[sys]

I'm under the impression that withdrawl is pretty popular.

fiasco is seldom popular.

[sonofdaxjones]

A poll a few weeks ago would have included Biden’s assurances that the Afghan Army was going to stop the Taliban.

The offloading of blame on to Trump is LOL’able.

The assurances wouldn't be important. You would be polling the general public as to whether or not US soldiers should be in harm's way, and that is all of the information that they would have. Biden has access to a whole lot more information than the public does, and has a responsibility to do what is unpopular when necessary.

But yesterday he tried to offload it all on Trump.   

Blinkie sucks ass and was completely destroyed by the Russians and Chinese who ensured the US would have all kinds of problems getting access to bases around Afghanistan.

I agree that "just as bad as Trump" is a disgustingly low standard that people are attempting to hold Biden to.

#blueanon and #blueanonGe trying to offload this on to Trump is 1000% on brand.

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/macaesbruno/status/1426876247443914755?s=21

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/thomasbsauer/status/1426999159643594755?s=21

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/macaesbruno/status/1426876247443914755?s=21

Cannot be true