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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #250 on: January 28, 2021, 02:27:48 PM »
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
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This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #251 on: January 28, 2021, 02:30:55 PM »
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
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This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.


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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #252 on: January 28, 2021, 02:39:44 PM »
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
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This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.

As in I can root for an individual player without being a fan of his or her team. It's not that hard to wrap your big brain around.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #253 on: January 28, 2021, 02:45:51 PM »
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
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This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.

As in I can root for an individual player without being a fan of his or her team. It's not that hard to wrap your big brain around.
Yeah I guess so.  But voting for a Republican implicitly feels like "backing the party."  For the vast majority of voters, I think the decision at the ballot box is the extent of the "backing" they give to either candidate or party.  Anyway, stupid semantical side tangent.  We can move on.


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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #254 on: January 28, 2021, 02:57:35 PM »
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
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This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.

I could vote for a Republican candidate like Sasse that has not continuously towed the company line.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #255 on: January 28, 2021, 03:06:34 PM »
Sasse voted against conviction during the impeachment trial.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #256 on: January 28, 2021, 03:08:37 PM »
Sasse voted against conviction during the impeachment trial.

While I don't agree with him there, he isn't irredeemable in my mind.  There are a lot of people that I would vote for over Sasse too, just that I wouldn't rule him out from the jump.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #257 on: January 28, 2021, 03:12:17 PM »
I'll add you to the official Sasseholes mailing list chicat. we appreciate your luke warm support (as it's our preferred water temp).

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #258 on: January 28, 2021, 10:41:40 PM »
It's sort of hard to envision what a MAGA-free republican party would even look like.
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This.  Nearly the whole party enabled and backed Trump at every turn.  While I could potentially vote for a Republican, I could never back that party.
I'm not entirely sure what the difference is here.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #259 on: January 28, 2021, 11:45:10 PM »
arizona republicans are emerging as real thought leaders in the post-trump gop.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1354982620455694340
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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #260 on: January 29, 2021, 10:35:07 AM »
Holy crap.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #261 on: January 29, 2021, 10:38:05 AM »

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #262 on: January 29, 2021, 10:42:56 AM »
I think it's safe to say that were not yet seeing signs of a post Trump GOP.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #263 on: January 29, 2021, 10:53:11 AM »
arizona republicans are emerging as real thought leaders in the post-trump gop.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1354982620455694340

This seems like a pretty good way to get more democrats into their state legislature.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #264 on: January 29, 2021, 10:58:08 AM »
I was thinking a good way to get more on board with eliminating the electoral college.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #265 on: January 29, 2021, 11:20:11 AM »
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #266 on: January 29, 2021, 11:22:49 AM »
It's hard to imagine enough support to get one passed, that's for sure.
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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #267 on: January 29, 2021, 11:27:32 AM »
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.
Doesn’t have to be initially if enough states agree to do it on their own. If/when that threshold is crossed I think it would only take a few election cycles for people to be fine with amending the constitution.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #268 on: January 29, 2021, 11:29:07 AM »
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.

As a general rule, this is probably a safe bet. However, something catastrophic and unexpected could happen, and that could break the cycle.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #269 on: January 29, 2021, 11:29:54 AM »
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.
Doesn’t have to be initially if enough states agree to do it on their own. If/when that threshold is crossed I think it would only take a few election cycles for people to be fine with amending the constitution.

The pact is a cool concept, but it's also pretty flimsy. What stops a state from backing out and going with who their state actually voted for?

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #270 on: January 29, 2021, 12:15:17 PM »
I don't think there will ever be another constitutional amendment.
Doesn’t have to be initially if enough states agree to do it on their own. If/when that threshold is crossed I think it would only take a few election cycles for people to be fine with amending the constitution.

The pact is a cool concept, but it's also pretty flimsy. What stops a state from backing out and going with who their state actually voted for?
I think the states’ own constitutions would stop it. Not sure if there is a legislative mechanism that could quickly undo it, but even then you can bet any emergency attempt would get tied up in court.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #271 on: January 30, 2021, 10:45:26 AM »
I think we know the answer:

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Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #272 on: January 30, 2021, 03:31:19 PM »
MQGA!

Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) Tweeted:
I had a GREAT call with my all time favorite POTUS, President Trump! 

I’m so grateful for his support and more importantly the people of this country are absolutely 100% loyal to him because he is 100% loyal to the people and America First.

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #273 on: January 30, 2021, 03:34:55 PM »
I think we know the answer:

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Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) Tweeted:
Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?

four years is a long time away, but right now i'm not sure romney would even win a primary to run for reelection to the senate.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: the post-trump gop
« Reply #274 on: January 30, 2021, 03:52:11 PM »
I think we know the answer:

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Mark Leibovich (@MarkLeibovich) Tweeted:
Who wins a head-to-head GOP primary today between Romney and MTG?

four years is a long time away, but right now i'm not sure romney would even win a primary to run for reelection to the senate.
The fact that nutcases like Greene, Goetz and Boebert are able to win elections (even if it is in a backwater congressional district) really dismays me. These people are totally detached from reality.
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