How good is Will Howard???

[nicname]

There is zero chance in my mind that our staff will have Avery ready to go in the fall mentally or physically.


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This staff’s track record with QBs should give you confidence in their ability to develop Johnson.

[MakeItRain]

There is zero chance in my mind that our staff will have Avery ready to go in the fall mentally or physically.


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This staff’s track record with QBs should give you confidence in their ability to develop Johnson.

Right, these cats have put like 80 quarterbacks in the NFL and we still have people on this bullshit. Frankly, 2019 Skylar Thompson should have killed this talking point before it even got started.

[michigancat]

There is zero chance in my mind that our staff will have Avery ready to go in the fall mentally or physically.


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This staff’s track record with QBs should give you confidence in their ability to develop Johnson.

Right, these cats have put like 80 quarterbacks in the NFL and we still have people on this bullshit. Frankly, 2019 Skylar Thompson should have killed this talking point before it even got started.

I don't think their track record with QBs is super relevant to what they can do with Johnson in a single fall camp. And Johnson not being ready next says little to nothing about their ability to develop QBs!

[Cire]

I"m talking about true freshman you idiots

[Cire]

I should have said no way he's ready to go in the fall mentally or physically.

He's the best player every time on the field and it's not close.  He's not playing in florida, california, or texas JFC

[Cire]

And he's teeny tiny.

Freshman Skylar was thicker.

[wetwillie]

Yikes

[Cire]

We can't keep Skyler, AD, or Will Howard healthy. 

IF he's the Day 1 starter next year the offense will have to be completley retooled for AJ

DO NOT see that happening in a year...

[star seed 7]

Cire, did Avery steal your girlfriend?

[Cire]

He could be great,

I don't think he'll be ready next year, certainly not in the offense we're running this year.  Not sure why that's controversial.

[michigancat]

He could be great,

I don't think he'll be ready next year, certainly not in the offense we're running this year.  Not sure why that's controversial.

why do you think the offense wouldn't change?

[Cire]

I mean, our entire run game is based off of the qb read/power. 

If we run that with avery he will get destroyed.  It's one thing to try it with Adrian Martinez and Will Howard, both of those guys are significantly bigger.  Avery isn't built the same.

But our runnig game and a lot of our Play action/RPO is off of QB power

[nicname]

I mean, our entire run game is based off of the qb read/power. 

If we run that with avery he will get destroyed.  It's one thing to try it with Adrian Martinez and Will Howard, both of those guys are significantly bigger.  Avery isn't built the same.

But our runnig game and a lot of our Play action/RPO is off of QB power

We’ll definitely utilize his running ability, but likely in a more finesse-centric way. He’ll be running more read option, rpo and sprint outs; general misdirection. I’m thinking Dennis Dixon at Oregon type of attack.

[nicname]

Whether or not Johnson starts next year will be more about Howard/Rubley than Johnson… mostly Howard probably.

[wetwillie]

Let the golden haired wonder boy sling it all over the field as god intended

[Cire]

I mean, our entire run game is based off of the qb read/power. 

If we run that with avery he will get destroyed.  It's one thing to try it with Adrian Martinez and Will Howard, both of those guys are significantly bigger.  Avery isn't built the same.

But our runnig game and a lot of our Play action/RPO is off of QB power

We’ll definitely utilize his running ability, but likely in a more finesse-centric way. He’ll be running more read option, rpo and sprint outs; general misdirection. I’m thinking Dennis Dixon at Oregon type of attack.

That would be great, but it's a different scheme than what we have been running.

I guess, I'm hoping it doesn't have to be Avery next year and that Will howard can have a 6-7 win season as a floor while we work to get better at skill positions and transition to a different Style for Avery that won't get him destroyed.

[wetwillie]

Also even if Will Anciuex is good he won’t be good until 2024 at the earliest and unless we pull off a miracle the WR room in 2023 will be just as bad as this one is.  A lot of reasons to let Avery play in 4 games and redshirt for 2024 if Howard continues on his trajectory.

[Spracne]

I mean, our entire run game is based off of the qb read/power. 

If we run that with avery he will get destroyed.  It's one thing to try it with Adrian Martinez and Will Howard, both of those guys are significantly bigger.  Avery isn't built the same.

But our runnig game and a lot of our Play action/RPO is off of QB power

We’ll definitely utilize his running ability, but likely in a more finesse-centric way. He’ll be running more read option, rpo and sprint outs; general misdirection. I’m thinking Dennis Dixon at Oregon type of attack.

That would be great, but it's a different scheme than what we have been running.

I guess, I'm hoping it doesn't have to be Avery next year and that Will howard can have a 6-7 win season as a floor while we work to get better at skill positions and transition to a different Style for Avery that won't get him destroyed.

KU completely changed its offense in the offseason to fit our personnel. Are you telling me you guys can't do the same?

[Cire]

I mean, our entire run game is based off of the qb read/power. 

If we run that with avery he will get destroyed.  It's one thing to try it with Adrian Martinez and Will Howard, both of those guys are significantly bigger.  Avery isn't built the same.

But our runnig game and a lot of our Play action/RPO is off of QB power

We’ll definitely utilize his running ability, but likely in a more finesse-centric way. He’ll be running more read option, rpo and sprint outs; general misdirection. I’m thinking Dennis Dixon at Oregon type of attack.

That would be great, but it's a different scheme than what we have been running.

I guess, I'm hoping it doesn't have to be Avery next year and that Will howard can have a 6-7 win season as a floor while we work to get better at skill positions and transition to a different Style for Avery that won't get him destroyed.

KU completely changed its offense in the offseason to fit our personnel. Are you telling me you guys can't do the same?

I doubt it, they may have added things, but the triple option stuff and blocking scheme has been the same under the OC that came with LL

[MakeItRain]

Jesus, cire.

[pissclams]

cire hates avery johnson’s guts

[Cire]

I feel like everyone else hates Avery’s guts if they want him starting in the fall.


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[ELL3]

Having a low ceiling vet start over a talented Freshmen has done wonders for Mizzou this season

[wetwillie]

Having a low ceiling vet start over a talented Freshmen has done wonders for Mizzou this season

I don’t think Will Howard can be classified as a low ceiling vet anymore.  We will see how he does today I guess but he threw some absolute dimes in Ft Worth.

[catastrophe]

This may be the game that proves (or disproves) my theory that Howard’s biggest problem is his mental fortitude.