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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #400 on: November 07, 2020, 09:39:00 PM »
Kid has moxie but he can't throw the ball at all, not even a little bit. That missed hitch route to Taylor was comically bad.

yeah, this is where I'm at. I like him but he is not good and I don't think he will be good. does that make sense? also he's a kid so maybe he's going to be good later but man I don't see it.

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #401 on: November 07, 2020, 09:49:33 PM »
Honestly we should just put 15 more pounds of muscle on his lower half and use him like Klein. He doesn’t have Skylar’s lateral movement but he gets upfield well and is a one cut runner.  If they have to account for him in the run game he can still make serviceable throws to our TE and FB’s and occasionally find a wide open WR when teams put 8 in the box.
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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #402 on: November 07, 2020, 09:56:06 PM »
Honestly we should just put 15 more pounds of muscle on his lower half and use him like Klein. He doesn’t have Skylar’s lateral movement but he gets upfield well and is a one cut runner.  If they have to account for him in the run game he can still make serviceable throws to our TE and FB’s and occasionally find a wide open WR when teams put 8 in the box.

He's bigger than Collin was as a true freshman.

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #403 on: November 07, 2020, 11:10:34 PM »
Collin barley played before his Jr year.

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #404 on: November 07, 2020, 11:22:25 PM »
Collin barley played before his Jr year.

He sorghum played after that.

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #405 on: November 07, 2020, 11:24:49 PM »
would be nice if his offensive coordinator would put him in a position to be successful, but alas, courtney is trash



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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #406 on: November 07, 2020, 11:29:15 PM »
would be nice if his offensive coordinator would put him in a position to be successful, but alas, courtney is trash
I’m confused about what plays people think we should be running but aren’t running.

None of our wide receivers are good and neither is the quarterback and we’re also not very food at running the ball.  People tend to crap on OCs but the more likely and more boring answer is that almost all of our offensive players suck.


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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #407 on: November 07, 2020, 11:39:08 PM »
Recruiting better players is a pretty big part of being an OC.
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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #408 on: November 07, 2020, 11:41:12 PM »
would be nice if his offensive coordinator would put him in a position to be successful, but alas, courtney is trash
I’m confused about what plays people think we should be running but aren’t running.

None of our wide receivers are good and neither is the quarterback and we’re also not very food at running the ball.  People tend to crap on OCs but the more likely and more boring answer is that almost all of our offensive players suck.

they should call more touchdowns and/or 60+ yard plays

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #409 on: November 07, 2020, 11:41:18 PM »
Collin barley played before his Jr year.

He sorghum played after that.

But only played limited millets as a freshman and soph.

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #410 on: November 07, 2020, 11:51:25 PM »
Recruiting better players is a pretty big part of being an OC.
Like the 4 star quarterback we’re bringing in next year or the slew of promising young linemen?

You can’t really build a power run oriented, pro style offense from scratch in two years.  WR is really the only position I’m concerned about moving forward, but I like the ‘21 guys.  Particularly Garcia.


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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #411 on: November 08, 2020, 12:05:18 AM »
Deuce might be B12 freshman of the Year (but he can only do so much)

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #412 on: November 08, 2020, 12:18:19 AM »
would be nice if his offensive coordinator would put him in a position to be successful, but alas, courtney is trash
I’m confused about what plays people think we should be running but aren’t running.

None of our wide receivers are good and neither is the quarterback and we’re also not very food at running the ball.  People tend to crap on OCs but the more likely and more boring answer is that almost all of our offensive players suck.
you’re not confused about anything, but you can ask for an explanation
his job, our oc’s, is to put his players in positions to succeed.  play to his strength and protect his weaknesses
just seems to me that he’s asked to do a bit more than he’s ready or capable of doing



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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #413 on: November 08, 2020, 12:42:31 AM »
would be nice if his offensive coordinator would put him in a position to be successful, but alas, courtney is trash
I’m confused about what plays people think we should be running but aren’t running.

we have a running back shaped exactly like a bowling ball.  i'm no football genius, but i think if we ran plays where we let him work up a head of steam and then received the football he'd be pretty hard to tackle.

also we did that at least twice today and he did seem hard to tackle and also it was fun to watch.
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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #414 on: November 08, 2020, 05:03:50 AM »
Recruiting better players is a pretty big part of being an OC.
Like the 4 star quarterback we’re bringing in next year or the slew of promising young linemen?

You can’t really build a power run oriented, pro style offense from scratch in two years.  WR is really the only position I’m concerned about moving forward, but I like the ‘21 guys.  Particularly Garcia.


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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #415 on: November 08, 2020, 07:27:58 AM »
Will Howard is slightly below average when he's not giving the ball to the other team.

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #416 on: November 08, 2020, 08:20:37 AM »
Recruiting better players is a pretty big part of being an OC.
Like the 4 star quarterback we’re bringing in next year or the slew of promising young linemen?

You can’t really build a power run oriented, pro style offense from scratch in two years.  WR is really the only position I’m concerned about moving forward, but I like the ‘21 guys.  Particularly Garcia.


It’s fun seeing you put in a position to praise the OL recruiting.
Not as good as it could have been, but if you look across the board, I think we’ll have one of the better lines in the conference in 2022 with a line full of young guys.


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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #417 on: November 08, 2020, 08:34:50 AM »
would be nice if his offensive coordinator would put him in a position to be successful, but alas, courtney is trash
I’m confused about what plays people think we should be running but aren’t running.

None of our wide receivers are good and neither is the quarterback and we’re also not very food at running the ball.  People tend to crap on OCs but the more likely and more boring answer is that almost all of our offensive players suck.
you’re not confused about anything, but you can ask for an explanation
his job, our oc’s, is to put his players in positions to succeed.  play to his strength and protect his weaknesses
just seems to me that he’s asked to do a bit more than he’s ready or capable of doing
Of course he’s being asked to do more than he’s ready for, he’s a true freshman.  Thems the breaks though for that youngster. 


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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #418 on: November 08, 2020, 08:47:58 AM »
I mean there's a reason we kept trying to run and ran that bootleg with a three yard pass to Dineen like a dozen times

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #419 on: November 08, 2020, 09:25:17 AM »
I mean there's a reason we kept trying to run and ran that bootleg with a three yard pass to Dineen like a dozen times
We somehow need to get way more aggressive yet keep Howard in his comfort zone. #Humdinger


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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #420 on: November 08, 2020, 09:33:41 AM »
I mean there's a reason we kept trying to run and ran that bootleg with a three yard pass to Dineen like a dozen times
We somehow need to get way more aggressive yet keep Howard in his comfort zone. #Humdinger

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #421 on: November 08, 2020, 09:53:24 AM »
I mean there's a reason we kept trying to run and ran that bootleg with a three yard pass to Dineen like a dozen times
We somehow need to get way more aggressive yet keep Howard in his comfort zone. #Humdinger

I don't care about the turnovers if the alternatives are three and outs.

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #422 on: November 08, 2020, 09:57:41 AM »


I mean there's a reason we kept trying to run and ran that bootleg with a three yard pass to Dineen like a dozen times
We somehow need to get way more aggressive yet keep Howard in his comfort zone. #Humdinger

I don't care about the turnovers if the alternatives are three and outs.

Yeah I disagree when the defense is as good as it has been most of the year. It's sure more boring to watch three and outs but probably gives us a better chance to win.

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #423 on: November 08, 2020, 10:19:31 AM »


I mean there's a reason we kept trying to run and ran that bootleg with a three yard pass to Dineen like a dozen times
We somehow need to get way more aggressive yet keep Howard in his comfort zone. #Humdinger

I don't care about the turnovers if the alternatives are three and outs.

Yeah I disagree when the defense is as good as it has been most of the year. It's sure more boring to watch three and outs but probably gives us a better chance to win.

Scoop and score not withstanding, you think the third quarter was better for the defense than the fourth? If we're turning the ball over, that means we're taking chances and moving the ball. I believe the defense was on the field for 11 minutes of the third quarter and that was with us starting with the ball.

I'd also point out that you've made a departure from our fake season philosophy. Why not let the kid play, it's high risk low reward?

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Re: How good is Will Howard???
« Reply #424 on: November 08, 2020, 10:28:50 AM »




I mean there's a reason we kept trying to run and ran that bootleg with a three yard pass to Dineen like a dozen times
We somehow need to get way more aggressive yet keep Howard in his comfort zone. #Humdinger

I don't care about the turnovers if the alternatives are three and outs.

Yeah I disagree when the defense is as good as it has been most of the year. It's sure more boring to watch three and outs but probably gives us a better chance to win.

Scoop and score not withstanding, you think the third quarter was better for the defense than the fourth? If we're turning the ball over, that means we're taking chances and moving the ball. I believe the defense was on the field for 11 minutes of the third quarter and that was with us starting with the ball.

I'd also point out that you've made a departure from our fake season philosophy. Why not let the kid play, it's high risk low reward?

Well you can't discount the scoop and score because that's my whole point.

And I think playing ball control offense is an important part of Howard's development, at least as much letting him sling it all over the field is if not more (if you can call his passing "slinging")