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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1375 on: August 26, 2024, 07:52:03 AM »
We coach Hawk Tackling. Essentially just head behind the ball instead of in front of it. I think that’s the modern standard for USA Football.


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« Reply #1376 on: August 26, 2024, 09:52:54 AM »
I always optimized for quality of life when choosing.  Optimizing for winning only seemed to land you on a team with batshit crazy parents and crap tons of out of state travel.

100%. Unless your kid is some crazy savant, the other kids, families, and overall enjoyment is way more important. Even if your kid is a wizard, I feel like they will be seen no matter what if you are on a decent team. Our baseball group is amazing. It's not even our school team or anything, but all of the parents and kids are great. That helps out so much especially with a time sucking sport like baseball. Prob same with soccer.

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« Reply #1377 on: August 26, 2024, 10:07:39 AM »
On the football front, CF3 jr. is definitely behind the kids that have played tackle before but he's having fun and being active which is great. What Cire is saying is 100% accurate.

They had a full team scrimmage on Saturday that parents could watch and afterwards he told me how much fun it was (didn't love practice last week). Of course when I asked what was fun it was things like "messing with Eli on the sidelines" or "cheering on when defense made a good play" or "having snacks in the gym afterwards". Pretty cool. At least for this year (9th) he'll be a great teammate and coachable. There's about 45ish kids on the freshman team and we had a great talk about even if there are 22 starters on offense/defense you'll be needed to get through a long season. Super fun stuff.

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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1378 on: August 26, 2024, 10:16:39 AM »
On the football front, CF3 jr. is definitely behind the kids that have played tackle before but he's having fun and being active which is great. What Cire is saying is 100% accurate.

They had a full team scrimmage on Saturday that parents could watch and afterwards he told me how much fun it was (didn't love practice last week). Of course when I asked what was fun it was things like "messing with Eli on the sidelines" or "cheering on when defense made a good play" or "having snacks in the gym afterwards". Pretty cool. At least for this year (9th) he'll be a great teammate and coachable. There's about 45ish kids on the freshman team and we had a great talk about even if there are 22 starters on offense/defense you'll be needed to get through a long season. Super fun stuff.

Thanks for this. I'm a huge fan of kids being on teams regardless of playing time/skill level. Hoping for an experience like this at the very least for lil SF.

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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1379 on: August 26, 2024, 07:50:09 PM »
One pro of not playing football is not having to get up at 5:15 to drive your kid to school for a 6:00 AM practice because it's too hot to practice outside after school.

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« Reply #1380 on: August 26, 2024, 09:05:43 PM »
One pro of not playing football is not having to get up at 5:15 to drive your kid to school for a 6:00 AM practice because it's too hot to practice outside after school.

We had practice from 7-9 pm tonight cuz of the heat.
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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1381 on: August 26, 2024, 09:46:19 PM »
One pro of not playing football is not having to get up at 5:15 to drive your kid to school for a 6:00 AM practice because it's too hot to practice outside after school.

We had practice from 7-9 pm tonight cuz of the heat.
We went indoors and just went through plays and formations and crap


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« Reply #1382 on: August 26, 2024, 11:06:19 PM »
One pro of not playing football is not having to get up at 5:15 to drive your kid to school for a 6:00 AM practice because it's too hot to practice outside after school.

We had practice from 7-9 pm tonight cuz of the heat.
We went indoors and just went through plays and formations and crap


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What kind of offense do you run? I’ve been studying the single wing and think it would be basicallly unstoppable in youth football. Also HS tbh.
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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1383 on: August 27, 2024, 06:51:48 AM »
One pro of not playing football is not having to get up at 5:15 to drive your kid to school for a 6:00 AM practice because it's too hot to practice outside after school.

We had practice from 7-9 pm tonight cuz of the heat.
We went indoors and just went through plays and formations and crap


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What kind of offense do you run? I’ve been studying the single wing and think it would be basicallly unstoppable in youth football. Also HS tbh.
Pretty standard. Single WR split, single TE, wing back, stacked FB, RB. Lot of straight FB lead blocking. Run to pass ratio about 4:1. We run a 4-4 defense that’s pretty standard as well. At this age we are keeping it very simple.


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« Reply #1384 on: August 27, 2024, 08:57:54 AM »
Perfect. I-form.

I want to learn and coach single wing.
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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1385 on: August 27, 2024, 10:48:41 AM »
Can you still run Oklahoma drills or does that get you cancelled?
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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1386 on: August 27, 2024, 10:55:11 AM »
We do


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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1387 on: August 27, 2024, 11:12:11 AM »
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What is your level of worry about Lil SD playing in general, especially at this age. This isn't a judgy question, i'm genuinely curious.

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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1388 on: August 27, 2024, 11:16:39 AM »
We do


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What is your level of worry about Lil SD playing in general, especially at this age. This isn't a judgy question, i'm genuinely curious.

very low to negligible. he wants to play, I let him play. I have coached these kids for the last two years and haven't seen a known concussion yet. get kids shooken up but we have strict protocol for handling it. we are careful on water breaks and heat. we did have a kid get a fractured wrist because he put his arm down to brace himself when getting tackled (don't do this kids) but could have just as easily happened in basketball or on the playground. I don't know, football is pretty old and technology today is a lot better than it has ever been to protect them.

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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1389 on: August 27, 2024, 11:26:10 AM »
We do


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What is your level of worry about Lil SD playing in general, especially at this age. This isn't a judgy question, i'm genuinely curious.

very low to negligible. he wants to play, I let him play. I have coached these kids for the last two years and haven't seen a known concussion yet. get kids shooken up but we have strict protocol for handling it. we are careful on water breaks and heat. we did have a kid get a fractured wrist because he put his arm down to brace himself when getting tackled (don't do this kids) but could have just as easily happened in basketball or on the playground. I don't know, football is pretty old and technology today is a lot better than it has ever been to protect them.

Appreciate the honest answer. I just keep thinking back to when I played starting at 6th grade and hoooo boy. I know it's 1 million % better now, but I still have some pause.

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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1390 on: August 27, 2024, 11:36:38 AM »
I always optimized for quality of life when choosing.  Optimizing for winning only seemed to land you on a team with batshit crazy parents and crap tons of out of state travel.

100%. Unless your kid is some crazy savant, the other kids, families, and overall enjoyment is way more important. Even if your kid is a wizard, I feel like they will be seen no matter what if you are on a decent team. Our baseball group is amazing. It's not even our school team or anything, but all of the parents and kids are great. That helps out so much especially with a time sucking sport like baseball. Prob same with soccer.

My oldest kid played for one club from age 4-18. My middle son was sort of on that route, but his enjoyment was going down hill. He changed clubs last year, but things weren't that much better, and now he's out of club soccer. My youngest is on his third club in 4 years. Frankly, I really wish my middle son had moved earlier.

What I would say is that there is absolutely no one size fits all club. The club that was best for my oldest, was absolutely not the right place for either of my other two kids. The absolutely most important thing in my opinion are the other kids on the team, by a pretty long way. Stuff like level of competition, coach, organization/communication, other families, distance to fields are all important, but how you value things depends on you and your kid.

I put winning way toward the bottom of the list. While my oldest was on a team or two that won a lot of games, he was also on some teams that got hammered. But for him, competing at a high level, getting a ton of playing time, and improving as a player were all way more important. Obviously, losing all the time can be draining, and if it means that your kid is going to quit, then look to change, but I also saw some kids that went over to the "best" team, but ended up not playing, and for lots of kids sitting is way worse than losing.

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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1391 on: August 27, 2024, 11:49:09 AM »
I always optimized for quality of life when choosing.  Optimizing for winning only seemed to land you on a team with batshit crazy parents and crap tons of out of state travel.

100%. Unless your kid is some crazy savant, the other kids, families, and overall enjoyment is way more important. Even if your kid is a wizard, I feel like they will be seen no matter what if you are on a decent team. Our baseball group is amazing. It's not even our school team or anything, but all of the parents and kids are great. That helps out so much especially with a time sucking sport like baseball. Prob same with soccer.

My oldest kid played for one club from age 4-18. My middle son was sort of on that route, but his enjoyment was going down hill. He changed clubs last year, but things weren't that much better, and now he's out of club soccer. My youngest is on his third club in 4 years. Frankly, I really wish my middle son had moved earlier.

What I would say is that there is absolutely no one size fits all club. The club that was best for my oldest, was absolutely not the right place for either of my other two kids. The absolutely most important thing in my opinion are the other kids on the team, by a pretty long way. Stuff like level of competition, coach, organization/communication, other families, distance to fields are all important, but how you value things depends on you and your kid.

I put winning way toward the bottom of the list. While my oldest was on a team or two that won a lot of games, he was also on some teams that got hammered. But for him, competing at a high level, getting a ton of playing time, and improving as a player were all way more important. Obviously, losing all the time can be draining, and if it means that your kid is going to quit, then look to change, but I also saw some kids that went over to the "best" team, but ended up not playing, and for lots of kids sitting is way worse than losing.

This is a very good point. Lil SF is on a baseball team that is a level or so above where he probably should be. He sits a lot and while I know he still enjoys being on the team, he would probably rather be on a lower team playing more. Not a lot of baseball options so it is what it is, but it will def run its course soon. Thankfully for us, his team hits all of the other spots we have talked about. Great coach, parents, kids, etc. That and winning trophies helps make up for sitting and or batting low in the order a bit.

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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1392 on: August 29, 2024, 07:29:41 PM »
ordered lil sd a guardian cap for his helmet. becoming very common here. I'm going to petition (bitch at them and guilt trip them) our league to make them mandatory next season.


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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1393 on: August 29, 2024, 07:30:33 PM »
I think just wearing them in practice gets you basically 100% of the benefit
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« Reply #1394 on: August 29, 2024, 07:31:09 PM »
I think just wearing them in practice gets you basically 100% of the benefit

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« Reply #1395 on: August 29, 2024, 09:15:43 PM »
I think just wearing them in practice gets you basically 100% of the benefit
Why would practice have a higher proportion of benefit than games? Why wouldn't you wear them all the time? (Legitimately don't know)

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« Reply #1396 on: August 29, 2024, 09:17:56 PM »
I think just wearing them in practice gets you basically 100% of the benefit
Why would practice have a higher proportion of benefit than games? Why wouldn't you wear them all the time? (Legitimately don't know)

honestly it's probably to do with not having your team logo on the helmet. which I get. and 90%+ of the impacts they get are in practice.

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« Reply #1397 on: August 29, 2024, 09:59:48 PM »
I think just wearing them in practice gets you basically 100% of the benefit
Why would practice have a higher proportion of benefit than games? Why wouldn't you wear them all the time? (Legitimately don't know)

Cause SD is practicing those kids 5 days a week.
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« Reply #1398 on: August 29, 2024, 10:36:49 PM »
I think just wearing them in practice gets you basically 100% of the benefit
Why would practice have a higher proportion of benefit than games? Why wouldn't you wear them all the time? (Legitimately don't know)

Cause SD is practicing those kids 5 days a week.

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Re: competitive little kid sports
« Reply #1399 on: August 30, 2024, 08:18:35 AM »
ordered lil sd a guardian cap for his helmet. becoming very common here. I'm going to petition (bitch at them and guilt trip them) our league to make them mandatory next season.



I've heard (no idea if true) that some people encourage not wearing them because if you modify equipment like a helmet it basically nullifies any equipment company liability in case of injury.