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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #375 on: July 03, 2020, 07:57:54 AM »
I support the 2020 change of banning bigots on gE. 
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« Reply #376 on: July 03, 2020, 08:16:14 AM »
I support the 2020 change of banning bigots on gE.
Disagree. Just like IRL, the best way to address people like that is to mock them incessantly until they wither away or change. Rules don't change philosophies.
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #377 on: July 03, 2020, 08:55:09 AM »
Imagine if this turned k-state into a hotbed of diversity and inclusion?

For who?

I haven't seen the school do anything for Asian, Hispanic, Indian or middle eastern students. Really students at all, just bending over backwards for athletes who make a scene.
well i think thats because you really dont care enough to investigate. the fund is titled "inclusion and diversity". and its mission involves all races. there is also a new multicultural center being constructed. it is not limited to african american culture.

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« Reply #378 on: July 03, 2020, 09:37:38 AM »
Known worst poster eastcat just got bodybagged  :Woot:
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #379 on: July 03, 2020, 11:16:12 AM »
Come on.

Pretty damn naive to think that some amount of donors and alum won't adjust their donations (and attendance) negatively if many of the suggestions in this thread get through as practice.

Interesting that you assume everyone thinks like you do. Are you accounting for donors gained or people who will give more?

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #380 on: July 03, 2020, 12:02:03 PM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?
Yes, unfortunately. K-State Sports will be the next athletic department to probably have to make some stupid confederate flag rule or something.


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You guys are far too unnecessarily pessimistic about the nature of people. No one will be booing anything, most people don't think negatively about black lives matter, they are just too comfortable to do anything to help solve these problems.
Oh i think you might be surprised. there are a LOT of normal acting people who think black lives matter is a cover for a terrorist organization and is trying to overthrow the government and erase American history forever and adopt every far left liberal extremest idea ever conceived as well as taking down the african american community as a whole. These are college graduates. these are hard working people. these are church going people. Depending on how KSU chooses to promote BLM at games i can almost promise you they will boo depending on how it is fed to them. But i am hoping they will feel just enough uncomfortable in front of so many others that they might stay quiet and bitch on their way home
You know, it really only makes sense in your head why KSU should be concerned about losing its appeal to racists.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #381 on: July 03, 2020, 12:05:23 PM »
Yes, a strong “eff’em” stance is what is needed. If you DEFINITELY aren’t a bigot but see that as a negative I’ve got some bad news for you....


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #382 on: July 03, 2020, 12:29:13 PM »
agreed, I've always been a proponent of a strong eff'em policy.
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« Reply #383 on: July 03, 2020, 01:22:20 PM »
Sent in an email out to students and faculty this morning.
Then shared on social media.

Certainly a step in the right direction.


i guess i'm concerned because i want to believe there are not as many as i now think there are. they just dont know they are racists. i've lived in TX and racism was so blatant so everyday in your face we moved back to kansas just to get away from it. Here it is more hidden i guess.

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·       Utilize home games in all sports to support the Black Lives Matter movement.

There is going to be a really embarrassing amount of booing isn't there?
Yes, unfortunately. K-State Sports will be the next athletic department to probably have to make some stupid confederate flag rule or something.


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You guys are far too unnecessarily pessimistic about the nature of people. No one will be booing anything, most people don't think negatively about black lives matter, they are just too comfortable to do anything to help solve these problems.
Oh i think you might be surprised. there are a LOT of normal acting people who think black lives matter is a cover for a terrorist organization and is trying to overthrow the government and erase American history forever and adopt every far left liberal extremest idea ever conceived as well as taking down the african american community as a whole. These are college graduates. these are hard working people. these are church going people. Depending on how KSU chooses to promote BLM at games i can almost promise you they will boo depending on how it is fed to them. But i am hoping they will feel just enough uncomfortable in front of so many others that they might stay quiet and bitch on their way home
You know, it really only makes sense in your head why KSU should be concerned about losing its appeal to racists.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #384 on: July 03, 2020, 11:50:39 PM »
Can you imagine having the thought "haven't posted on goEMAW in a while, but now that athletes are speaking out in an attempt to get minorities more rights at K-State, I better go post about why that's wrong"?

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« Reply #385 on: July 04, 2020, 01:01:35 AM »
Imagine if this turned k-state into a hotbed of diversity and inclusion?

For who?

I haven't seen the school do anything for Asian, Hispanic, Indian or middle eastern students.

How in the eff would you know? It's not like you've actually looked into this.

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« Reply #386 on: July 04, 2020, 10:05:12 AM »
Can you imagine having the thought "haven't posted on goEMAW in a while, but now that athletes are speaking out in an attempt to get minorities more rights at K-State, I better go post about why that's wrong"?

racists have a hard time stopping being racists
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« Reply #387 on: July 06, 2020, 08:47:06 AM »
Can you imagine having the thought "haven't posted on goEMAW in a while, but now that athletes are speaking out in an attempt to get minorities more rights at K-State, I better go post about why that's wrong"?

racists have a hard time stopping being racists

Not accusing you specifically of this, but that could be because the brush some are using in here to label others racist encompasses everyone and everything that does not agree with their point of view.

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« Reply #388 on: July 06, 2020, 12:57:56 PM »
Can you imagine having the thought "haven't posted on goEMAW in a while, but now that athletes are speaking out in an attempt to get minorities more rights at K-State, I better go post about why that's wrong"?

racists have a hard time stopping being racists

Not accusing you specifically of this, but that could be because the brush some are using in here to label others racist encompasses everyone and everything that does not agree with their point of view.
interesting you say this i've been thinking about that issue a little bit. my impression is some people have been using the word racist to describe others who may well be racist or may just not understand all the intentions and meanings of the other side so are really just uninformed more than they are racist. There is an amazing amount of lack of clarity and understanding even in very intelligent people about Black Lives Matter and other racial movements currently. Their misunderstanding of the goals and intentions of these race movements makes them appear racist when in reality they believe something about the movement that isn't true. so instead of jumping on people as racist it might be more friendly to discuss their specific thoughts on the ideas because there are a lot of ill informed people.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #389 on: July 06, 2020, 02:46:18 PM »
Can you imagine having the thought "haven't posted on goEMAW in a while, but now that athletes are speaking out in an attempt to get minorities more rights at K-State, I better go post about why that's wrong"?

racists have a hard time stopping being racists

Not accusing you specifically of this, but that could be because the brush some are using in here to label others racist encompasses everyone and everything that does not agree with their point of view.

Just a heads up for you, but the opposite view of a race related view point that isn't racist is a racist one.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #390 on: July 06, 2020, 07:10:33 PM »
Can you imagine having the thought "haven't posted on goEMAW in a while, but now that athletes are speaking out in an attempt to get minorities more rights at K-State, I better go post about why that's wrong"?

racists have a hard time stopping being racists

Not accusing you specifically of this, but that could be because the brush some are using in here to label others racist encompasses everyone and everything that does not agree with their point of view.

Just a heads up for you, but the opposite view of a race related view point that isn't racist is a racist one.

I suppose that leaves the determination of what does or does not constitute a racist view point up to intellectuals such as yourself.

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« Reply #391 on: July 06, 2020, 08:38:46 PM »
Can you imagine having the thought "haven't posted on goEMAW in a while, but now that athletes are speaking out in an attempt to get minorities more rights at K-State, I better go post about why that's wrong"?

racists have a hard time stopping being racists

Not accusing you specifically of this, but that could be because the brush some are using in here to label others racist encompasses everyone and everything that does not agree with their point of view.

Just a heads up for you, but the opposite view of a race related view point that isn't racist is a racist one.

I suppose that leaves the determination of what does or does not constitute a racist view point up to intellectuals such as yourself.

It really isn't that hard, easier to identify than pornography.

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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #392 on: July 07, 2020, 02:45:41 AM »
Imagine if this turned k-state into a hotbed of diversity and inclusion?
Man, would be incred


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #393 on: July 07, 2020, 07:07:36 AM »
Reply to the tweet linked in the article. Cindi is a psycho.

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« Reply #394 on: July 07, 2020, 07:32:03 AM »
Cindi having a normal one


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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #395 on: July 07, 2020, 07:49:28 AM »
Can you imagine having the thought "haven't posted on goEMAW in a while, but now that athletes are speaking out in an attempt to get minorities more rights at K-State, I better go post about why that's wrong"?

racists have a hard time stopping being racists

Not accusing you specifically of this, but that could be because the brush some are using in here to label others racist encompasses everyone and everything that does not agree with their point of view.

Idk if you felt wrapped up in my statement, but it seemed pretty clear that sort of statement was directed towards people like eastcat. It doesn't have to be this super nuanced discussion. If you do feel like it was directed at you I would like to know how you arrived at that conclusion. Being concerned about 1st amendment rights is one thing, doing what Stevie said, me pointing out the obvious, has nothing to with that.
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Re: Athletes Forcing Change
« Reply #396 on: July 07, 2020, 09:33:41 AM »
No, I didn't feel wrapped up in your statement at all. I was simply adding commentary to your statement that I felt was appropriate.

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« Reply #397 on: July 07, 2020, 09:43:57 AM »
Imagine if this turned k-state into a hotbed of diversity and inclusion?
Man, would be incred


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”We encourage any student who feels threatened to contact the Office of Student Life,” said Jeff Morris, university spokesman. “We have a wide array of resources to help them. We have been working closely with many of our students and student athletes who have been affected by recent events.”

maybe Jeff could personally hit the phones and personally reach out to black students, regardless of whether or not they feel threatened? I think the students quoted have good points.

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« Reply #398 on: July 07, 2020, 09:46:03 AM »
Imagine if this turned k-state into a hotbed of diversity and inclusion?
Man, would be incred


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”We encourage any student who feels threatened to contact the Office of Student Life,” said Jeff Morris, university spokesman. “We have a wide array of resources to help them. We have been working closely with many of our students and student athletes who have been affected by recent events.”

maybe Jeff could personally hit the phones and personally reach out to black students, regardless of whether or not they feel threatened? I think the students quoted have good points.

cRusty , do you have any information that tells you that Jeff hasn't been doing that?


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« Reply #399 on: July 07, 2020, 10:06:52 AM »
Just calling up the black students to make sure they are OK after someone tweeted something mean sounds condescending as eff.
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