The riot to reform police thread

[MakeItRain]

What’s the plan for weeding all the bad guys out?

Arrests and convictions for not only officers who use excessive force but for those who sit by and watch, you know like they do for other criminals.

All officers tried for crimes should be tried outside of the jurisdictions they work in. Judges would assign the jurisdictions, DA offices get no say.

Firings for chiefs and or captains in departments with high numbers of excessive force cases and departments with low scores in the DOJ civil rights score card.

Only hire officers who live in the jurisdiction they are working in.

Change training to reflect policing as guardianship and not with a warrior mentality.

Aggressive and constant anti-bias training

Not all officers get service weapons, they are earned with service time, spotless record, and rank.

And all these mayors/cities allowing them to run around without bodycams should be held accountable

Yep

[michigancat]

I agree we have a gun saturated country and police do need them unfortunately.

Not all of them

[steve dave]

I agree we have a gun saturated country and police do need them unfortunately.

Not all of them

also agree

[michigancat]

Also bodycams won't do crap when a slight motion to the waist is justification for murdering someone

[I_have_purplewood]

another product of shitty parenting by the so-called "family values" right

And you were the product of the mumped up parenting by the "wtf family value" left?  Got it.  For you to think you know what kind of family this kid grew up in is hilarious. And no, not defending this kid.  Just stating that you think you know why he did what he did because of how he was raised is laughable. 

[kim carnes]

What’s the plan for weeding all the bad guys out?

Take away their guns

Oh so there is no plan.  Glad we worked through that.  The only thing you can do is make them all wear bodycams and prosecute them for murder if they kill someone unjustly.

Wow prosecuting murdering cops is a great plan. Congrats on solving this

I know. It’s the foundation of our entire criminal justice system.

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/BonusEruptus/status/1299090426046156802

[kim carnes]

What’s the plan for weeding all the bad guys out?

Arrests and convictions for not only officers who use excessive force but for those who sit by and watch, you know like they do for other criminals.

All officers tried for crimes should be tried outside of the jurisdictions they work in. Judges would assign the jurisdictions, DA offices get no say.

Firings for chiefs and or captains in departments with high numbers of excessive force cases and departments with low scores in the DOJ civil rights score card.

Only hire officers who live in the jurisdiction they are working in.

Change training to reflect policing as guardianship and not with a warrior mentality.

Aggressive and constant anti-bias training

Not all officers get service weapons, they are earned with service time, spotless record, and rank.

And all these mayors/cities allowing them to run around without bodycams should be held accountable

Yep

I was going to mention terminating officers for prior misconduct relating to abuse/overuse of force but I got lazy.  It is also probably a lot easier said than done especially in instances without video footage.

[MakeItRain]

another product of shitty parenting by the so-called "family values" right

And you were the product of the mumped up parenting by the "wtf family value" left?  Got it.  For you to think you know what kind of family this kid grew up in is hilarious. And no, not defending this kid.  Just stating that you think you know why he did what he did because of how he was raised is laughable.

Yo, Triggered Tommy, his mom was there with him.
https://twitter.com/oldyes79/status/1299104759752859649

[I_have_purplewood]

another product of shitty parenting by the so-called "family values" right

And you were the product of the mumped up parenting by the "wtf family value" left?  Got it.  For you to think you know what kind of family this kid grew up in is hilarious. And no, not defending this kid.  Just stating that you think you know why he did what he did because of how he was raised is laughable.

Yo, Triggered Tommy, his mom was there with him.
https://twitter.com/oldyes79/status/1299104759752859649

Hey, it's my favorite bigot chiming in.  What a shock!  Pretty sure I can guess what kind of family environment you grew up in.. 

And, I didn't know that his mom took him there.  That is unfortunate but I would still never pass judgement on how someone was raised. No one knows what mumped up things people deal with growing up.   

[star seed 7]

Yeah having a militia nerd as a mom would eff you up

[I_have_purplewood]

 

Yeah having a militia nerd as a mom would eff you up

True that!  What was your cause?

[bucket]

It doesn't really look like her 

[star seed 7]

Latchkey kid

[MakeItRain]

another product of shitty parenting by the so-called "family values" right

And you were the product of the mumped up parenting by the "wtf family value" left?  Got it.  For you to think you know what kind of family this kid grew up in is hilarious. And no, not defending this kid.  Just stating that you think you know why he did what he did because of how he was raised is laughable.

Yo, Triggered Tommy, his mom was there with him.
https://twitter.com/oldyes79/status/1299104759752859649

Hey, it's my favorite bigot chiming in.  What a shock!  Pretty sure I can guess what kind of family environment you grew up in.. 

And, I didn't know that his mom took him there.  That is unfortunate but I would still never pass judgement on how someone was raised. No one knows what mumped up things people deal with growing up.

I'm actually interested in hearing your guess here.

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/billforpa14/status/1298973208444637191?s=21


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https://twitter.com/BillforPA14/status/1298973210231308289

gee, ya think, Bill?

Want to be further discouraged by cops? I posted this, without comment, at KSO and tagged a dude who says he's a cop. Here are his responses.

More generalization and stereotyping.

I've had officers tell me similar, just like citizens tell me similar. Has nothing to do with profession.

Someone else posted this in response to his reply

If you have had officers tell you similar, isn't that an indicator of a problem. A few too many guys that think like that in the police department.
And I still believe they must be a small minority. But one guy like Chauvin can cause a lot of problems.
So how do you weed guys like that out of the police?
Would make things a lot better for police who do their job correctly.

His reply couldn't be more dismissive

You don't, the same way you don't weed them out of society.

People are people. They aren't allowed to have opinions? I didn't say they'd act on them.

[I_have_purplewood]

another product of shitty parenting by the so-called "family values" right

And you were the product of the mumped up parenting by the "wtf family value" left?  Got it.  For you to think you know what kind of family this kid grew up in is hilarious. And no, not defending this kid.  Just stating that you think you know why he did what he did because of how he was raised is laughable.

Yo, Triggered Tommy, his mom was there with him.
https://twitter.com/oldyes79/status/1299104759752859649

Hey, it's my favorite bigot chiming in.  What a shock!  Pretty sure I can guess what kind of family environment you grew up in.. 

And, I didn't know that his mom took him there.  That is unfortunate but I would still never pass judgement on how someone was raised. No one knows what mumped up things people deal with growing up.

I'm actually interested in hearing your guess here.

Well you got me here.  I have no idea as does anyone else?  I'm not going to waste anyones time trying to figure out how he was raised or how all these people who burn crap and loot were raised.  Why get in an argument that they must have been raised better because they didn't kill someone...??  I think both could have been raised better.  Maybe we should start a thread on that?

[I_have_purplewood]

Latchkey kid

lol. 

[steve dave]

are you ok purp wood?

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/billforpa14/status/1298973208444637191?s=21


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https://twitter.com/BillforPA14/status/1298973210231308289

gee, ya think, Bill?

Want to be further discouraged by cops? I posted this, without comment, at KSO and tagged a dude who says he's a cop. Here are his responses.

More generalization and stereotyping.

I've had officers tell me similar, just like citizens tell me similar. Has nothing to do with profession.

Someone else posted this in response to his reply

If you have had officers tell you similar, isn't that an indicator of a problem. A few too many guys that think like that in the police department.
And I still believe they must be a small minority. But one guy like Chauvin can cause a lot of problems.
So how do you weed guys like that out of the police?
Would make things a lot better for police who do their job correctly.

His reply couldn't be more dismissive

You don't, the same way you don't weed them out of society.

People are people. They aren't allowed to have opinions? I didn't say they'd act on them.

His latest reply is insane. This is a cop in the streets of some city right now.

I didnt deflect and condone.

I said they're people, be accepting of opinions and the world is a way less angry place.

Being accepting of others would do a lot of good for you personally.

But continue blaming everyone else.

For a refresher, these are the opinions he's asking us to accept.
https://twitter.com/BillforPA14/status/1298973208444637191

I don't know how anyone could openly advocate for this type of language, these people are patrolling our streets. I cringe when I hear ACAB, but maybe I'm wrong.

[chum1]

https://twitter.com/letsgomathias/status/1299305016939950082

[Dugout DickStone]

the little incel called a friend to announce he killed somebody before he went out looking for more.  No wonder he is an incel hero.

[DaBigTrain]

https://twitter.com/letsgomathias/status/1299305016939950082

Just another example of good people on both sides

[bucket]

the little incel called a friend to announce he killed somebody before he went out looking for more.  No wonder he is an incel hero.

But right-wing media personalities tell me he was probably calling 911?

[sonofdaxjones]

The FBI's most wanted in several cities reads like a whose-who of white middle and upper middle class kids living at the very pinnacle of first world problems.   But to Da Big Sociopath's of this world, they're heroes.  Who cares if they're helping burn down black businesses and communities as long as it's all OrangeMan: Bad

Disgraceful

The good news I suppose is that appears that at least in Portland, they're hiding behind their mommies a little less these days.