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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #825 on: June 04, 2020, 03:54:10 PM »
KCPD reforms  :Woot:
 
* Body cam money found
* review of past and future use of gas and rubber bullet type things
* all officer shootings reviewed by an outside party (FBI etc)
* additional whistleblower protections
* county prosecutor's looking at protest excessive force complaints

still on most of the protestor's lists

* New police chief
* local control of PD (this will take a public vote)

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #826 on: June 04, 2020, 04:03:18 PM »
KCPD reforms  :Woot:
 
* Body cam money found
* review of past and future use of gas and rubber bullet type things
* all officer shootings reviewed by an outside party (FBI etc)
* additional whistleblower protections
* county prosecutor's looking at protest excessive force complaints

still on most of the protestor's lists

* New police chief
* local control of PD (this will take a public vote)

I'm guessing all of MO has to vote on it?
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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #827 on: June 04, 2020, 04:10:39 PM »
KCPD reforms  :Woot:
 
* Body cam money found
* review of past and future use of gas and rubber bullet type things
* all officer shootings reviewed by an outside party (FBI etc)
* additional whistleblower protections
* county prosecutor's looking at protest excessive force complaints

still on most of the protestor's lists

* New police chief
* local control of PD (this will take a public vote)

I'm guessing all of MO has to vote on it?

I'm not sure. Maybe just the city? I don't remember us voting for St Louis when they went under local control recently.

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #828 on: June 04, 2020, 05:39:07 PM »

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #829 on: June 04, 2020, 05:45:46 PM »
lmao


https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1268531176765108224


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there actually is a notre dame, indiana.  the campus is not part of south bend, it is its own whatever it is.  however, i don't think there are any residences there, aside from dorms and priest housing.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #830 on: June 04, 2020, 05:47:49 PM »
And nurses obviously

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #831 on: June 04, 2020, 05:48:06 PM »
I think curfews are dumb and should be illegal.


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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #832 on: June 04, 2020, 05:55:45 PM »
I think curfews are dumb and should be illegal.


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I agree.
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #833 on: June 04, 2020, 06:57:16 PM »
Curb your free speech until you calm down?

Curfew is just an excuse for police to detain people who are doing nothing wrong.


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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #834 on: June 04, 2020, 07:05:35 PM »
I think I'm kinda ok with curfews in some instances, provided they are rare and very short in duration.

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #835 on: June 04, 2020, 07:14:19 PM »
KCPD reforms  :Woot:
 
* Body cam money found
* review of past and future use of gas and rubber bullet type things
* all officer shootings reviewed by an outside party (FBI etc)
* additional whistleblower protections
* county prosecutor's looking at protest excessive force complaints

still on most of the protestor's lists

* New police chief
* local control of PD (this will take a public vote)

I'm guessing all of MO has to vote on it?

I'm not sure. Maybe just the city? I don't remember us voting for St Louis when they went under local control recently.

Like if it's just KC, than why can't KC essentially unilaterally do it now? It seems weird to change a state law in a local election (not saying the way the PD situation at all is not already weird).
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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #836 on: June 04, 2020, 08:33:15 PM »
Interesting strategy by KCPD tonight.  No presence at all at the protest meetup point for the past 7 days.  Not a big crowd but those there are marching the streets peacefully but blocking traffic.  Marching between plaza and westport it sounds like.

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #837 on: June 04, 2020, 08:52:47 PM »
i'm no pr genius, but i think maybe the police should knock fewer old people down in front of the cameras.

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"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #838 on: June 04, 2020, 08:55:59 PM »
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #839 on: June 04, 2020, 09:04:28 PM »
ah, yes.  he tripped and fell.

https://twitter.com/JeffRussoWKBW/status/1268712651292643334

I mean that statement can't be talking about that video, there were no other protestors.

That video though. Christ.

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #840 on: June 04, 2020, 09:15:47 PM »
They already got his name out there off LinkedIn and he’s already deleted his account.
I got a guy on the other line about some white walls

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #841 on: June 04, 2020, 09:25:28 PM »
ah, yes.  he tripped and fell.

https://twitter.com/JeffRussoWKBW/status/1268712651292643334

I mean that statement can't be talking about that video, there were no other protestors.

That video though. Christ.

Well if you watch the full video, you can see they're marching towards protestors.

Also, it's hard to imagine they're talking about anyone else considering the pool of blood you can see collecting underneath the gentleman's skull.

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #842 on: June 04, 2020, 09:28:32 PM »
Curb your free speech until you calm down?

Curfew is just an excuse for police to detain people who are doing nothing wrong.


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I always just assumed curfew was more of a way to keep bystanders out of the fray.  Basically whittle it down to just "if you're out, we assume you're a protestor."  Also gives cops a better argument for probable cause in order to assess vaguely suspicious situations.

I definitely think that arresting people for violating curfew is dumb regardless.

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #843 on: June 04, 2020, 09:34:52 PM »
ah, yes.  he tripped and fell.

https://twitter.com/JeffRussoWKBW/status/1268712651292643334

I mean that statement can't be talking about that video, there were no other protestors.

That video though. Christ.

Well if you watch the full video, you can see they're marching towards protestors.

Also, it's hard to imagine they're talking about anyone else considering the pool of blood you can see collecting underneath the gentleman's skull.

It's not hard to imagine more than one person tripped and fell and got hurt in a protest in a protest but I was more tongue in check saying no way they are trying to state that person tripped and fell in a skirmish with protestors when they knew this video was out there. 

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« Reply #844 on: June 04, 2020, 09:35:10 PM »
I think curfews are dumb and should be illegal.


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Why illegal? I can see some utility of telling people to calm down a few nights then protest to your hearts content.

You can’t just arbitrarily restrict a free person’s movements.
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #845 on: June 04, 2020, 09:39:09 PM »
https://twitter.com/kennydeforest/status/1268288525234876416?s=21

Great story.


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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #847 on: June 04, 2020, 10:06:36 PM »
That was tough to watch.

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« Reply #848 on: June 04, 2020, 10:18:35 PM »
Interesting strategy by KCPD tonight.  No presence at all at the protest meetup point for the past 7 days.  Not a big crowd but those there are marching the streets peacefully but blocking traffic.  Marching between plaza and westport it sounds like.

Holy hell it worked. Amazing. Cops don't get in their face and it is peaceful and now over. 

https://twitter.com/sarahgritter/status/1268742356431503362?s=19

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Re: The riot to reform police thread
« Reply #849 on: June 04, 2020, 10:29:57 PM »
Interesting strategy by KCPD tonight.  No presence at all at the protest meetup point for the past 7 days.  Not a big crowd but those there are marching the streets peacefully but blocking traffic.  Marching between plaza and westport it sounds like.

Holy hell it worked. Amazing. Cops don't get in their face and it is peaceful and now over. 

https://twitter.com/sarahgritter/status/1268742356431503362?s=19
Cops make just about every situation worse. (unless they completely remove themselves from situations like they did here). good turnaround from pepper spraying that dude for talking