The riot to reform police thread

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/PradhanAlka/status/1267513761860026368

Translation:  We want unchecked violence and looting night after night after night

[DQ12]

I agree that the protests should have room to breathe.  But if bad actors are trashing/looting the water tower mall, which was happening yesterday afternoon, I don’t really expect cops to sit there and stay back either.

[star seed 7]

'sd, what's going on in Omaha?

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/PradhanAlka/status/1267513761860026368

Well, we might get the war after all

[michigancat]

tough guy here!

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1267479213180948484

[Phil Titola]

I agree that the protests should have room to breathe.  But if bad actors are trashing/looting the water tower mall, which was happening yesterday afternoon, I don’t really expect cops to sit there and stay back either.

Agreed.  Need a good way to nip the bad actors in the bud vs. letting them incite people.  I don't think squeezing a line of cops around them is the best option but I'm only an amauter crowd control professional.

[MakeItRain]

I agree that the protests should have room to breathe.  But if bad actors are trashing/looting the water tower mall, which was happening yesterday afternoon, I don’t really expect cops to sit there and stay back either.

There's nothing wrong with them being reactionary, not surprisingly the reactions aren't to crimes but to what they perceive to be threats of potential crime.

Also worth noting that some jurisdictions, like Long Beach, are letting people loot without intervening.

[Spracne]

I agree that the protests should have room to breathe.  But if bad actors are trashing/looting the water tower mall, which was happening yesterday afternoon, I don’t really expect cops to sit there and stay back either.

There's nothing wrong with them being reactionary, not surprisingly the reactions aren't to crimes but to what they perceive to be threats of potential crime.

Also worth noting that some jurisdictions, like Long Beach, are letting people loot without intervening.

Yeah, my thought is always, "Well, this is what insurance is for." I would hope these downtown business owners are smart enough to have coverage.

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1267514411914342404

[DQ12]

I agree that the protests should have room to breathe.  But if bad actors are trashing/looting the water tower mall, which was happening yesterday afternoon, I don’t really expect cops to sit there and stay back either.

There's nothing wrong with them being reactionary, not surprisingly the reactions aren't to crimes but to what they perceive to be threats of potential crime.

Also worth noting that some jurisdictions, like Long Beach, are letting people loot without intervening.

Yeah agreed regarding your first paragraph. 

Not that it’s super important, but i wonder how the insurance claims get handled in situations like Long Beach.

[treysolid]

tough guy here!

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1267479213180948484

eff that guy with a 1000 hot metal dicks

[Spracne]

I agree that the protests should have room to breathe.  But if bad actors are trashing/looting the water tower mall, which was happening yesterday afternoon, I don’t really expect cops to sit there and stay back either.

There's nothing wrong with them being reactionary, not surprisingly the reactions aren't to crimes but to what they perceive to be threats of potential crime.

Also worth noting that some jurisdictions, like Long Beach, are letting people loot without intervening.

Yeah agreed regarding your first paragraph. 

Not that it’s super important, but i wonder how the insurance claims get handled in situations like Long Beach.

Retail businesses typically grant security interests in "inventory" to creditors as collateral for extensions of credit. Usually creditors will require that debtors carry a certain level of insurance in connection therewith. Property damage should be covered under a business's main CGL policy (which all should have). Unlike COVID-related claims, these types of claims are not novel and have been dealt with many times in the past. There's not a lot that insurers can do to deny coverage, here. COVID on the other hand...

[MakeItRain]

tough guy here!

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1267479213180948484

Just had this interaction on twitter.

https://twitter.com/PolitiBunny/status/1267522157820678144?s=19

[michigancat]

tough guy here!

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1267479213180948484

Just had this interaction on twitter.

https://twitter.com/PolitiBunny/status/1267522157820678144?s=19

Jeez those people are so gross

[Stevesie60]

That was my main concern, Spracne. That riots/looting would have been some weird loophole or something not clearly declared in the insurance contract.

But you're saying it almost certainly is?

[cfbandyman]

tough guy here!

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1267479213180948484

Just had this interaction on twitter.

https://twitter.com/PolitiBunny/status/1267522157820678144?s=19

Appropriate she calls herself a karen whisperer. What a POS

[MakeItRain]

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1267514411914342404

Remember all the way back to like 12 hours ago when fuckhead brown poster I have purplewood took me to task about saying that it would take a war for things to change? This is at least the third government official that has publicly advocated for the government engaging in acts of war against their own citizens. You think he's meeting Trump, Barr, and Tom Cotton with that same energy he had from some rando sports message board poster in Iowa?

[Trim]

Is there any complete video, maybe time-lapse that shows the entire cycle of one of the weekend's demonstration-protest-riots?  I'd love to see a shot of an empty area just before it becomes the site of something and really see who did what that got it to a stage of bad stuff.

My sense is that if, in anticipation of possible looting/violence/crime, extra cops were at their stations or on call for that work but not preemptively out in riot gear at the start of demonstrations, that'd be win-win.

[catastrophe]

I agree that the protests should have room to breathe.  But if bad actors are trashing/looting the water tower mall, which was happening yesterday afternoon, I don’t really expect cops to sit there and stay back either.

There's nothing wrong with them being reactionary, not surprisingly the reactions aren't to crimes but to what they perceive to be threats of potential crime.

Also worth noting that some jurisdictions, like Long Beach, are letting people loot without intervening.

Yeah agreed regarding your first paragraph. 

Not that it’s super important, but i wonder how the insurance claims get handled in situations like Long Beach.

Well at least insurance companies can’t argue the business owners should have tried protecting their places with machetes!

[Spracne]

That was my main concern, Spracne. That riots/looting would have been some weird loophole or something not clearly declared in the insurance contract.

But you're saying it almost certainly is?

Well, it depends on the language of each contract. Some policies may have certain exclusions that bar coverage, but the standard form policies ought to cover losses due to this.

[8manpick]

Interesting developments in my neighborhood today: peaceful protest organized by seemingly well-meaning local residents to start at the nearest train station at 5.  Right wing controlled fake Antifa group advertising with (online) posters that look like BLM designs saying “burn the North side to ashes”

[steve dave]

[sonofdaxjones]

Interesting developments in my neighborhood today: peaceful protest organized by seemingly well-meaning local residents to start at the nearest train station at 5.  Right wing controlled fake Antifa group advertising with (online) posters that look like BLM designs saying “burn the North side to ashes”

Are you absolutely sure it's not the Russians?

[michigancat]

Look at these thugs

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1267531005663023104

[sonofdaxjones]

Planted by the cops and apparently unplanted by the cops

https://twitter.com/jlepolastewart/status/1267490031297531904?s=20