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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #450 on: June 14, 2023, 06:44:59 AM »
actually came for this thread to post this, which i thought was pretty interesting.   been 7-8 years since muslim immigration was the panic de jour, but it feels from another age.

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1668746731243151361

Was the Muslim ban that long ago? But yeah

https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1654487360502128640

It reminds me of an article I saw at a Mormon in-law's years ago about BYU being an ok place for Muslim students because of its "clean living".

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #451 on: June 14, 2023, 07:45:43 AM »
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #452 on: June 14, 2023, 08:57:00 AM »
Toyota has been run by some very smart mother fuckers for the last 30 years or so.

they've kinda had their had up their ass on ev's, but maybe that pays out somehow.
They have the most reliable and time tested hybrid technology on the market tho.

Hell yeah they do

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #453 on: June 14, 2023, 09:17:03 AM »
surprised Saturn didn't have more representation

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #454 on: June 14, 2023, 12:40:39 PM »
Toyota has been run by some very smart mother fuckers for the last 30 years or so.

being able to simultaneously dominate the coexist market (Prius) and the punisher cop flag in the rear window market (4Runner) is an incredible feat

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #455 on: June 14, 2023, 12:44:39 PM »
I think them not diving dick first into the EV space like everyone else will pay off long term for them too.


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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #456 on: June 15, 2023, 02:51:06 PM »
EV may get replaced by other alternative fuels as the next great thing  :dunno:

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #457 on: June 19, 2023, 11:34:57 AM »
Like anything, moderation and balance is the best approach. I know this from having little natural ability for either (cautionary tales)

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #458 on: June 21, 2023, 08:12:59 PM »

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"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #460 on: June 26, 2023, 08:53:13 PM »
Your boy Vivek is staying above the fray, well relative to main stream Republicans.

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« Reply #461 on: June 26, 2023, 09:12:18 PM »
Your boy Vivek is staying above the fray, well relative to main stream Republicans.

Do you mean staying on message and out of the mudslinging? If so, he's definitely doing that. If you mean he's not playing the populist, conspiratorial, infotainment BS that sys posted in the Riedl tweet, he's definitely not doing that. Outside of trump and desantis, he's a pretty clear third in playing these bullshit games, although Nimrata is giving him a run. He's just not getting attention because he's not a national candidate, but he's in Iowa a lot and trust me, he's talking about trans kids, indoctrination, and CRT more than every candidate other than desantis.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #462 on: June 26, 2023, 10:44:41 PM »
I'm just baiting sys.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #463 on: June 26, 2023, 11:57:26 PM »
https://twitter.com/Brian_Riedl/status/1673488619418398721

I really hate to concur with this, but I do…as was said in political terms after 2012 “why are we so going after the MBA when the trailer park vote counts just as much”

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #464 on: June 27, 2023, 06:42:29 AM »
That guy is a pretty great example of what went wrong and can’t see it. He is a former Rob Portman economist, current Manhattan Institute fellow and has Ukrainian and pride flags in his bio.

He appeals to approximately no one in the electorate except some east coast moderate dems and he is having a sad about it.

He is of course correct that politics is a spectacle but he appeals back to some bygone era when the “adults” and “experts” were left to run the world. While it is true that the forces that have arisen and taken center stage have de-stabilized the order, that order previously was not a force for good for many people and has increasingly become incapable of addressing concerns of working people.

Inequality and the breakdown of faith in the institutions and elites that are running things are enormous problems. While he is looking at electoral politics and “the crazies” he should also pause to consider whether things like people seeing Supreme Court justices openly flaunt ethics rules that essentially every other worker public or private cannot violate is driving people to put that rage somewhere. It is not going to magically come out as a coherent critique of the system, just like when I locked the keys in the car my dad didn’t calmly explain that was dumb.

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #465 on: June 27, 2023, 01:10:15 PM »
Your boy Vivek is staying above the fray, well relative to main stream Republicans.

i don't know if ramaswamy or kennedy is a better example of the width of lanes for nonsensical populist candidates.  the existence of nonzero levels of support for both bodes poorly for the country's future.

if i was going to vote now i'd probably go for christie or hurd.  but hopefully my vote choice will be constrained by viability when the actual election comes around.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #466 on: June 27, 2023, 01:18:12 PM »
ramaswamy or kennedy

a little more from the same thread that applies to these guys.  i think kennedy really believes the idiocy that he spews.  no idea about ramaswamy.

in a slightly related vein, i think it's fairly obvious from the sources of his support that republican pundits think that desantis is just saying what he thinks he has to, but i don't know why they think he's going to be able to fool trump-friendly voters but not also fool anti-trump voters.  i think christie has the better campaign plan - you just have to make your case plainly and either voters will accept it or they won't.

https://twitter.com/Brian_Riedl/status/1673488621532315649
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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #467 on: June 27, 2023, 01:41:07 PM »
I'm just baiting sys.

Oops, my bad

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #468 on: June 28, 2023, 12:46:03 PM »
I thought this interview was interesting. Includes some discussion of the "democracy vs republic" issue.

https://twitter.com/BretDevereaux/status/1674084761441124355?s=20

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #469 on: July 08, 2023, 09:24:45 PM »
LMAO wow

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Nearby stood a consultant, Nik Palomba, who has known Mr. Shor for more than a decade through a Facebook group for fans of the political writer Matthew Yglesias. Mr. Palomba is very tall. “When the Knicks aren’t in town,” Mr. Shor said, coming up to him, “there’s something like a 70 percent chance that he’s the tallest person in Manhattan. It’s actually very rare to be over seven feet.”

https://twitter.com/willystaley/status/1567917841478713344?s=20&t=YxTlb8gPH4AEJ3m_2GBwCQ

just the first yglesias that came up when I searched so you're getting a quote.

https://twitter.com/JuniorMinton/status/1677838822435098626

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #470 on: July 10, 2023, 07:48:37 PM »
LMAO wow

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Nearby stood a consultant, Nik Palomba, who has known Mr. Shor for more than a decade through a Facebook group for fans of the political writer Matthew Yglesias. Mr. Palomba is very tall. “When the Knicks aren’t in town,” Mr. Shor said, coming up to him, “there’s something like a 70 percent chance that he’s the tallest person in Manhattan. It’s actually very rare to be over seven feet.”

https://twitter.com/willystaley/status/1567917841478713344?s=20&t=YxTlb8gPH4AEJ3m_2GBwCQ

just the first yglesias that came up when I searched so you're getting a quote.

https://twitter.com/JuniorMinton/status/1677838822435098626

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #471 on: September 18, 2023, 12:32:03 PM »

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #472 on: September 18, 2023, 01:06:32 PM »
very cool thread.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #473 on: September 22, 2023, 10:50:36 PM »
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: political hobbyist thread
« Reply #474 on: October 04, 2023, 02:04:57 PM »
I thought this was an interesting conversation with Kevin Williamson and Mike Duncan (from Revolutions Podcast) about comparisons between the Roman Republic and the US. Discussing the question of whether the "toothpaste can be put back in the tube" vis a vis political violence. Good to listen to Mike again after the end of Revolutions.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/theres-no-place-like-rome/id1291144720?i=1000630144145