CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[sonofdaxjones]

Also, has the U.S. gov't purchased any of the PanBio Tests, if so, how many, and what is Abbot's projected production capacity and delivery dates for the PanBio tests?

[Cire]

If one test was wrong, they all are bad

[steve dave]

infuriating.

https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1328957535395729410

One of the most glaring failures of the US fight. Even more evident knowing these tests are out there.

such an infuriating fuckup

[sonofdaxjones]

So, based on the Tweets of a couple of Twitter rando's, using such succinct and highly detailed language such as, "since awhile".   

It is the expectation of the resident CoronaBro Drama Queens that a test that as far as I can tell that has only been available since September, maybe late August.   Be readily available in the United States in quantities that are  equal to billions upon billions of tests if I'm reading this current meltdown correctly.   That being readily available daily testing for all Americans.

3rd party accuracy studies are as little as 12 days old.   Most countries who have approved this test have been receiving limited shipments for a month or less.

But, some Twitter rando said he's had them available "since awhile", some other Twitter rando paints a picture that everywhere else around the world they're as readily available as condoms and Resident CoronaBro Nation goes all in. 

 



   

 

[Phil Titola]

Germans have them in their hands, I don't.  That's a failure, sorry Dax.  Be a little more objective and imagine Biden is already president then you can maybe get it.

[ChiComCat]

Maybe we did everything we could to get those tests but between a President that repeatedly advocated for slowing down testing and a task force made up of his children and dipshits that encourage states to "rise up" against safety protocols makes me think that wasn't the case.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Hospital workers first, then teachers, then students, and work our way up, youngest to oldest.

I've seen a theory to do the social butterflies first. Kind of matches young people I guess. Seems weird to do the young ones that handle it best first?

That said I don't think 85 and older should be any sort of priority. Maybe 60 to 80 as first age group though.

Agree with hospital and teacher first. First responders too.

Focus on the people who spread it the most first, and everyone else will benefit from herd mentality while waiting on their vaccine.

[sonofdaxjones]

Germans have them in their hands, I don't.  That's a failure, sorry Dax.  Be a little more objective and imagine Biden is already president then you can maybe get it.

There's literally billions of things that individuals can have "in their hands" at any given moment, Phil.   That doesn't mean that those things are readily available to all people.

I'm not a DramaBoy like you.  So I don't blame any government for not having billions upon billions of a thing readily available that has only existed for a couple of months.    Particularly things that require manufacturing and production accuracy, approval, testing and distribution.

Canada just approved this in October, they ordered enough to test every (edit) other Canadian . . . once.   For a virus that you can catch 5 minutes or less, later.    Note, Canada ordered the tests, they haven't received 20 million yet.

The U.S. bought 150 million Abbot rapid tests in August.   For multiple weeks afterwords, the accuracy of those tests was questioned.   We're just not seeing 3rd party tests of accuracy of this particular test rolling out in the last 12-28 days.

[catastrophe]

Hospital workers first, then teachers, then students, and work our way up, youngest to oldest.

I've seen a theory to do the social butterflies first. Kind of matches young people I guess. Seems weird to do the young ones that handle it best first?

That said I don't think 85 and older should be any sort of priority. Maybe 60 to 80 as first age group though.

Agree with hospital and teacher first. First responders too.

eff the young people, we start with the elite Gen Xers then hit older millennial and young boomers, then progress from there, after the first responders and the purple with comorbidities of course.

I think a younger preference makes sense mainly because of concerns of unknown long term effects.

[steve dave]

Hospital workers first, then teachers, then students, and work our way up, youngest to oldest.

I've seen a theory to do the social butterflies first. Kind of matches young people I guess. Seems weird to do the young ones that handle it best first?

That said I don't think 85 and older should be any sort of priority. Maybe 60 to 80 as first age group though.

Agree with hospital and teacher first. First responders too.

eff the young people, we start with the elite Gen Xers then hit older millennial and young boomers, then progress from there, after the first responders and the purple with comorbidities of course.

I think a younger preference makes sense mainly because of concerns of unknown long term effects.

Yes, I agree here. Frontline Heath and Essential then young to old.


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[Dugout DickStone]

Hospital workers first, then teachers, then students, and work our way up, youngest to oldest.

I've seen a theory to do the social butterflies first. Kind of matches young people I guess. Seems weird to do the young ones that handle it best first?

That said I don't think 85 and older should be any sort of priority. Maybe 60 to 80 as first age group though.

Agree with hospital and teacher first. First responders too.

eff the young people, we start with the elite Gen Xers then hit older millennial and young boomers, then progress from there, after the first responders and the purple with comorbidities of course.

I think a younger preference makes sense mainly because of concerns of unknown long term effects.

Yes, I agree here. Frontline Heath and Essential then young to old.


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Agreed.

[Phil Titola]

it's been decided to go old to young though in each state has it not?

I don't think under 20 should be the priority.

[Dugout DickStone]

it's been decided to go old to young though in each state has it not?

I don't think under 20 should be the priority.

It has?

[Phil Titola]

it's been decided to go old to young though in each state has it not?

I don't think under 20 should be the priority.

It has?

Seems like every news story I read about rollout says "hospital people then old people"

[sys]

it should obviously be old to young (if effective for all ages).  good lord.

[Phil Titola]

it should obviously be old to young (if effective for all ages).  good lord.

they obviously are more vulnerable to bad stuff but if you can keep them safe for a couple more months in isolation then can we get a larger bang for our buck to get the active population done first?  I think that's the question, not that we don't care for the olds not dying.

[sys]

you can get a bigger bang for you buck by immunizing people that have a negligible mortality rate and frequently don't even have symptoms?  gmafb.

go ahead and explain to the 85 year old living alone that hasn't been out of his apartment in a year that you get a bigger bang for your buck by immunizing a college student in between frat parties.

[Phil Titola]

you can get a bigger bang for you buck by immunizing people that have a negligible mortality rate and frequently don't even have symptoms?  gmafb.

go ahead and explain to the 85 year old living alone that hasn't been out of his apartment in a year that you get a bigger bang for your buck by immunizing a college student in between frat parties.

if you don't want to spitball wtf you even doing here?

Trying to explain the thought process.  I am not convinced what is right if speaking only about age.

[sys]

Trying to explain the thought process.

i'm explaining why it's wrong.

[Dugout DickStone]

you can get a bigger bang for you buck by immunizing people that have a negligible mortality rate and frequently don't even have symptoms?  gmafb.

go ahead and explain to the 85 year old living alone that hasn't been out of his apartment in a year that you get a bigger bang for your buck by immunizing a college student in between frat parties.

yes our economy and functioning society depends on that 85 year old.

The vaccine is meant to prevent the virus from spreading and eventually kill it off, not to let boomer barry go buy smokes

[wetwillie]

Poor Barry

[Phil Titola]

goPuff can deliver (unintentional pun)

[sys]

the highest use of the vaccine (beyond medical personnel, etc) is to keep people from dying, and the people that are dying are the elderly.

[Dugout DickStone]

the highest use of the vaccine (beyond medical personnel, etc) is to keep people from dying, and the people that are dying are the elderly.

then some boomer ass dope gets sick, dies and they halt the vaccine.

[steve dave]

you can get a bigger bang for you buck by immunizing people that have a negligible mortality rate and frequently don't even have symptoms?  gmafb.

go ahead and explain to the 85 year old living alone that hasn't been out of his apartment in a year that you get a bigger bang for your buck by immunizing a college student in between frat parties.

if you don't want to spitball wtf you even doing here?

Trying to explain the thought process.  I am not convinced what is right if speaking only about age.

My plan does not assume old people will agree with it. It’s max greater good based.


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