CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[sys]

yeah, i don't know that it's all that bad.  there was a really long thread on immune systems and vaccines (by @florian_krammer) that i posted a while back that talked about this.  normal.

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1321051933654863872


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[Phil Titola]

yeah, i don't know that it's all that bad.  there was a really long thread on immune systems and vaccines (by @florian_krammer) that i posted a while back that talked about this.  normal.

Yeah I thought this was already known. Antibodies will fade but t-cells and b-cells retain the memory to fight this when it comes back.

[Phil Titola]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1321051933654863872


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What a hard luck president.  All his hard work on the virus will make it disappear the day after he loses. We should build him a statue of liberty sized monument when this happens.  I suggest a YMCA dance pose.

[sonofdaxjones]

Read Joe’s plan.  Not a lot of meat there from a guy who claims he’s going to defeat the virus.  It all sounds pretty familiar outside of the claim he’ll possibly shut down the country.  Which would be an unmitigated economic disaster that will be felt for decades. Much of Joe’s big plan now runs counter to recent studies regarding schools (and lockdowns). 

In other news.  Core EU countries pile on another 110k new Covid-19 cases.

EU countries looking to expand test sourcing as supplies run low. 

European countries, all in and all over it to the tune of hundreds of thousands of new cases every day. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Terrible job with Rona Sweden still running at  10% the new daily case count as similarly sized Belgium. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Population density of Brussels is a substantial contributing factor and the answer of course.  Is to lock everyone inside.

[Phil Titola]

country by country data on what restrictions were put in place, relaxed, reinstated would be interesting.  I haven't found a comprehensive list.

edit Here is a good Europe list from June when they were all easing any restrictions in place

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-post-lockdown-rules-compared-face-mask-travel/

[michigancat]

country by country data on what restrictions were put in place, relaxed, reinstated would be interesting.  I haven't found a comprehensive list.

edit Here is a good Europe list from June when they were all easing any restrictions in place

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-post-lockdown-rules-compared-face-mask-travel/

Right off the bat that seems inaccurate because Sweden definitely closed schools and limited gatherings to 50 people max (very similarly to Finland listed and restrictions that are still in place).

Part of me wonders if Sweden was helped by having way fewer people travel there over the summer.

[michigancat]

country by country data on what restrictions were put in place, relaxed, reinstated would be interesting.  I haven't found a comprehensive list.

edit Here is a good Europe list from June when they were all easing any restrictions in place

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-post-lockdown-rules-compared-face-mask-travel/

Right off the bat that seems inaccurate because Sweden definitely closed schools and limited gatherings to 50 people max (very similarly to Finland listed and restrictions that are still in place).

Part of me wonders if Sweden was helped by having way fewer people travel there over the summer.

that said, assuming the rest are accurate, it seems pretty clear that lockdowns really only help for crazy spikes, which is what Belgium and others saw early on but Sweden never really did. Then Western Europe opened up waaaay too much and Sweden kept way more restrictions with the 50 person gathering. I mean the Czech Republic was allowing 100 person indoor gatherings in May, Austria was allowing 200 person gatherings, etc.

Spain RIGHT NOW is allowing 50% capacity indoor theaters which would allow for way more than 50 people

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-23/madrid-announces-new-restrictions-on-social-gatherings-to-curb-coronavirus-spread.html

[michigancat]

North Dakota going hard after that herd immunity

Five percent of all North Dakotans have now tested positive for the virus, the highest rate of any state.

Dr. Deborah L. Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, visited North Dakota on Monday and warned that “there’s a whole other set of cases underneath those cases, of asymptomatic young people who are still getting together, or even 40-, 50- and 60-year-olds who I saw throughout Bismarck not wearing masks and not physically distancing yet being indoors.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/26/world/covid-19-coronavirus-updates/us-virus-outlook-continues-to-worsen-as-more-records-fall

[Phil Titola]

North Dakota going hard after that herd immunity

Five percent of all North Dakotans have now tested positive for the virus, the highest rate of any state.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/26/world/covid-19-coronavirus-updates/us-virus-outlook-continues-to-worsen-as-more-records-fall

Estimated 25% total infected although this model has been discontinued.

https://covid19-projections.com/us-nd

[Phil Titola]

country by country data on what restrictions were put in place, relaxed, reinstated would be interesting.  I haven't found a comprehensive list.

edit Here is a good Europe list from June when they were all easing any restrictions in place

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-post-lockdown-rules-compared-face-mask-travel/

Right off the bat that seems inaccurate because Sweden definitely closed schools and limited gatherings to 50 people max (very similarly to Finland listed and restrictions that are still in place).

Part of me wonders if Sweden was helped by having way fewer people travel there over the summer.

They did?  Was it just for 16+?
https://www.france24.com/en/20200917-sweden-has-kept-schools-open-during-the-pandemic-despite-spike-in-cases

[michigancat]

country by country data on what restrictions were put in place, relaxed, reinstated would be interesting.  I haven't found a comprehensive list.

edit Here is a good Europe list from June when they were all easing any restrictions in place

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-post-lockdown-rules-compared-face-mask-travel/

Right off the bat that seems inaccurate because Sweden definitely closed schools and limited gatherings to 50 people max (very similarly to Finland listed and restrictions that are still in place).

Part of me wonders if Sweden was helped by having way fewer people travel there over the summer.

They did?  Was it just for 16+?
https://www.france24.com/en/20200917-sweden-has-kept-schools-open-during-the-pandemic-despite-spike-in-cases

yes just for 16+. I'm not sure if/when that reopened.

[Phil Titola]

country by country data on what restrictions were put in place, relaxed, reinstated would be interesting.  I haven't found a comprehensive list.

edit Here is a good Europe list from June when they were all easing any restrictions in place

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-post-lockdown-rules-compared-face-mask-travel/

Right off the bat that seems inaccurate because Sweden definitely closed schools and limited gatherings to 50 people max (very similarly to Finland listed and restrictions that are still in place).

Part of me wonders if Sweden was helped by having way fewer people travel there over the summer.

They did?  Was it just for 16+?
https://www.france24.com/en/20200917-sweden-has-kept-schools-open-during-the-pandemic-despite-spike-in-cases

yes just for 16+. I'm not sure if/when that reopened.

I don't know how long the swedes go to school but if I had to classify schools open/closed based on that I'd say they kept schools open.

[michigancat]

country by country data on what restrictions were put in place, relaxed, reinstated would be interesting.  I haven't found a comprehensive list.

edit Here is a good Europe list from June when they were all easing any restrictions in place

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-post-lockdown-rules-compared-face-mask-travel/

Right off the bat that seems inaccurate because Sweden definitely closed schools and limited gatherings to 50 people max (very similarly to Finland listed and restrictions that are still in place).

Part of me wonders if Sweden was helped by having way fewer people travel there over the summer.

They did?  Was it just for 16+?
https://www.france24.com/en/20200917-sweden-has-kept-schools-open-during-the-pandemic-despite-spike-in-cases

yes just for 16+. I'm not sure if/when that reopened.

I don't know how long the swedes go to school but if I had to classify schools open/closed based on that I'd say they kept schools open.

ok phil

and yeah I looked up a college and the swedish govt let all schools open in May but it looks like they aren't opening up entirely on their own

https://www.gu.se/en/news/teaching-both-digital-and-on-campus-this-autumn

[Phil Titola]

Fall/Winter is going to suck because we threw all our eggs into the vaccine basket

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1321099893298089996?s=20

[sonofdaxjones]

Not Fauci approved.  Sorry.

[sonofdaxjones]

If there’s one thing drug industry needs in order to figure out how to make money and that’s billions of dollars from the Federal Gov’t.   Very capital//cash strapped industry pharmaceuticals.   

[Phil Titola]

Nothing groundbreaking but since the "we are just testing more" train continue to have MAGA power, info still necessary

https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1321118890513080322

[sonofdaxjones]

Good time to add a coin flip at home test to the market. 

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Nothing groundbreaking but since the "we are just testing more" train continue to have MAGA power, info still necessary

https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1321118890513080322

Great summary.

[Dugout DickStone]

It's amusing that Sweden and the magas who now apparently worship sweden want everyone to believe they went totally badass herd immunity wide open when they absolutely did not.

[sonofdaxjones]

Not even close to the collective CoronaBro meltdown about Sweden.   

[Dugout DickStone]

Not even close to the collective CoronaBro meltdown about Sweden.   

never thought I'd see you grab your ankles for a scandanavian country with tax funded healthcare but there you are.  completely subservient to the swedes