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Wasn’t this pretty obvious?
Quote from: 8manpick on October 07, 2020, 08:44:10 AMWasn’t this pretty obvious?yeah, I think that has always been the timeline. high risk/front line medical workers winter 2020/2021. general public best case spring, worst case early 2022.
in the end, EMAW will always win.
Quote from: 8manpick on October 07, 2020, 08:44:10 AMWasn’t this pretty obvious?I've heard many times over general availability of a vaccine as this spring. I do think Fauci tries to underpromise overdeliver which is fine. I also know a lot of people's mindsets are "let's just get through 2020" like the calendar flip is going to fix this all and I think those people are in for a tough new years.
Quote from: Phil Titola on October 07, 2020, 08:56:17 AMQuote from: 8manpick on October 07, 2020, 08:44:10 AMWasn’t this pretty obvious?I've heard many times over general availability of a vaccine as this spring. I do think Fauci tries to underpromise overdeliver which is fine. I also know a lot of people's mindsets are "let's just get through 2020" like the calendar flip is going to fix this all and I think those people are in for a tough new years.I dunno, I haven’t followed as closely as of late, but I thought vaccine in the Spring was always an absolute best case scenario, outside of Trumps insane blathering about having it ready next week
Reading that Phil, my understanding is that it came out as a “setback” in terms of PR, but I doesn’t seem like actually changed as far as what was a reasonable expectation. They didn’t find something wrong that pushed things back by 3 months.
I think the end of next year sounds like a reasonable expectation.
We are going to be hearing about the deep state in the FDA keeping our vaccine away from us next month.
Ironically it's his idiot cult followers that say they won't take it anyways.
I’m pretty sure they’re already manufacturing the big 3 vaccines that have phase 3 trials underway (they’ve been underway for months). So conceivably we could start rolling them out in early 2021. They can’t be shipped until they’ve received fda authorization. Of course there’s a chance all 3 are found to be ineffective, that would really eff things up. If any of them are extremely effective they’ll end phase 3 early and go for approval. I think overall I’m just shocked at how slow the phase 3 enrollments have been given the overall impact this has had on the world and am voicing that frustration on this forum.
Quote from: kim carnes on October 07, 2020, 10:59:37 AMI’m pretty sure they’re already manufacturing the big 3 vaccines that have phase 3 trials underway (they’ve been underway for months). So conceivably we could start rolling them out in early 2021. They can’t be shipped until they’ve received fda authorization. Of course there’s a chance all 3 are found to be ineffective, that would really eff things up. If any of them are extremely effective they’ll end phase 3 early and go for approval. I think overall I’m just shocked at how slow the phase 3 enrollments have been given the overall impact this has had on the world and am voicing that frustration on this forum.I think I read the problems with phase 3 enrollment was getting URM's to participate.
Quote from: kim carnes on October 07, 2020, 10:59:37 AMI’m pretty sure they’re already manufacturing the big 3 vaccines that have phase 3 trials underway (they’ve been underway for months). So conceivably we could start rolling them out in early 2021. They can’t be shipped until they’ve received fda authorization. Of course there’s a chance all 3 are found to be ineffective, that would really eff things up. If any of them are extremely effective they’ll end phase 3 early and go for approval. I think overall I’m just shocked at how slow the phase 3 enrollments have been given the overall impact this has had on the world and am voicing that frustration on this forum.I think they can be shipped regionally to get them prepositioned for fast delivery once FDA approval is given. There was talk of UPS setting up regional super fridges everywhere a month or two ago for this.
Quote from: bucket on October 07, 2020, 11:38:32 AMQuote from: kim carnes on October 07, 2020, 10:59:37 AMI’m pretty sure they’re already manufacturing the big 3 vaccines that have phase 3 trials underway (they’ve been underway for months). So conceivably we could start rolling them out in early 2021. They can’t be shipped until they’ve received fda authorization. Of course there’s a chance all 3 are found to be ineffective, that would really eff things up. If any of them are extremely effective they’ll end phase 3 early and go for approval. I think overall I’m just shocked at how slow the phase 3 enrollments have been given the overall impact this has had on the world and am voicing that frustration on this forum.I think I read the problems with phase 3 enrollment was getting URM's to participate.that has been the pause for a couple of them
Quote from: Phil Titola on October 07, 2020, 11:31:06 AMQuote from: kim carnes on October 07, 2020, 10:59:37 AMI’m pretty sure they’re already manufacturing the big 3 vaccines that have phase 3 trials underway (they’ve been underway for months). So conceivably we could start rolling them out in early 2021. They can’t be shipped until they’ve received fda authorization. Of course there’s a chance all 3 are found to be ineffective, that would really eff things up. If any of them are extremely effective they’ll end phase 3 early and go for approval. I think overall I’m just shocked at how slow the phase 3 enrollments have been given the overall impact this has had on the world and am voicing that frustration on this forum.I think they can be shipped regionally to get them prepositioned for fast delivery once FDA approval is given. There was talk of UPS setting up regional super fridges everywhere a month or two ago for this.yeah, listened to a podcast about that the other day. if you own large refrigerated warehouse space (has to get super cold, not just kinda frozen) you are sitting on a goldmine.
Like, if u really want to save lives, shouldn’t there be a grassroots campaign among public figures encouraging URMs to get enrolled or something??
