CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[DaBigTrain]

He is just so rough ridin' stupid I just can’t handle it


https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1261017121078861826

[Phil Titola]

He is just so rough ridin' stupid I just can’t handle it


https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1261017121078861826

On the bright side, for once he isn't wrong.

[michigancat]

speaking of tests, my wife says that if someone has symptoms and gets a negative on the Abbott, they retest with another method.

https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1260734764316798978

[sonofdaxjones]

What about false positives, cRusty?

I mean, the WHO is finding the RONA in papaya, after all.

[michigancat]

What about false positives, cRusty?

I mean, the WHO is finding the RONA in papaya, after all.

I haven't heard of that being an issue at the hospital. They're only testing sick people AFAIK, so the biggest impact from a false positive is taking up a covid unit bed and probably requiring more PPE.

[catastrophe]

If I’m correct that Dax is actually making a cogent point here, I think it’s that you can only really use the (classic) nasal test as a measure of the Abbott test if the former is nearly 100% accurate. If the nasal test is prone to false positives then it’s tough to argue it is proving the Abbott test is prone to false negatives.

Don’t know if any of that is true, just fleshing it out.

[michigancat]

If I’m correct that Dax is actually making a cogent point here, I think it’s that you can only really use the (classic) nasal test as a measure of the Abbott test if the former is nearly 100% accurate. If the nasal test is prone to false positives then it’s tough to argue it is proving the Abbott test is prone to false negatives.

Don’t know if any of that is true, just fleshing it out.

He's referring to the Tanzania president allegedly sending samples from a goat and papaya to a lab and having them come back positive

[michigancat]

Liz!

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1261049246679252994

Even as we rush to develop a vaccine — which could take months, if not years — contact tracing can help halt the spread of the virus now. With this in mind, we have put forward a proposal for a federal contact tracing program that we want included in the next relief package that passes Congress. The House Democrats’ proposal already includes pieces of it, including $500 million to hire a diverse group of culturally competent contact tracers. But we need to stand up our whole plan for a national contact tracing strategy.

Today, we will be introducing legislation to do just that. Our bill will massively expand our health care workforce, make sure states and localities have the support they need, and provide robust privacy protections to ensure Americans’ personal data and health information are protected.

[michigancat]

this is a pretty good site for visualization: https://public.tableau.com/profile/peter.james.walker#!/vizhome/Coronavirus-ChangeovertimeintheUSA/0_Home

[MakeItRain]

Can't find stats focused solely on Fulton County, but Georgia's numbers haven't really spiked (or even moved upward) since the opening.  Hard to figure that one out.

The virus is still in the incubation period in most cases. Probably be another week before we see anything.

Stuff started opening almost 3 weeks ago.

I thought it was last Friday. 

Time really does seem to be going slower.

It's been almost exactly 2 weeks since things started to open in Georgia. The restaurants opened up two weeks and 1 day ago and all the other stuff opened up 13 days ago.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/why-georgia-reopening-coronavirus-pandemic/610882/

If there will be a spike in Georgia it will start to show next week. However, as kRusty has illustrated, the public has been sensible about distancing, so a spike won't be as likely. I don't think this will be the case everywhere. Also bear in mind that the relaxation of distancing laws was accompanied with the east coast having a historic cold snap last weekend.

Your dates are wrong I think.

Friday, April 24

Gyms and fitness centers
bowling alleys
body art studios
barbers, cosmetologists, and hair designers
nail care artists
estheticians and their respective schools
massage therapists

Monday, April 27

Subject to specific social distancing and sanitation mandates, Gov. Kemp named another list of businesses that can reopen.

Theaters
private social clubs
restaurant dine-in service

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/georgia-reopening-dates-plan-kemp/85-1df2aa97-48fd-4cf8-a9fd-afbd8c73dfcf

Not my dates, they're from the linked article, anywho probably still a week or two away from getting a true sense on the effect on number of cases.

[kim carnes]

so yeah

The governor ordered bars, nightclubs and live performance venues to remain shuttered through the end of May, which he said will “enhance health outcomes” and give owners more time to prepare to reopen.

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/kemp-set-extend-restrictions-bars-nightclubs-amid-pandemic/5SCSJA4jgVdCbA6z2eYzHI/

I'd watch churches really closely, but it's actually a pretty useful experiment to kind of pinpoint exactly where you see superspreading events

Still, if Georgia is taking steps to loosen up (whether you define those steps as "half-assed" or "measured"), I would've expected some spike/growth, even if most people are continuing to voluntarily stay home.

If the hypothesis is "fewer restrictions=increased spread" (which seems logical), Georgia's data doesn't really support that so far.

We should be good then.

Yeah that's totally what I said.

So we’re not good?  There is probably a reason China went to such extreme lengths to stamp out the virus before reopening.

[Phil Titola]

Our health director called for 4 weeks between jumping to the next phase. After 3 they would give the community a heads up on potential changes a week out

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1261062467595067392


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[Phil Titola]

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1261062467595067392


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disloyal subject!

[Phil Titola]

The Oxford vaccine is showing even more promise! 

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.13.093195v1?fbclid=IwAR1Xb79A0cGjORE2nwKTEvBb7y4-NBuD5oRf2wKWZfAhoCJ8_T73QSQfskw

[DQ12]

so yeah

The governor ordered bars, nightclubs and live performance venues to remain shuttered through the end of May, which he said will “enhance health outcomes” and give owners more time to prepare to reopen.

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/kemp-set-extend-restrictions-bars-nightclubs-amid-pandemic/5SCSJA4jgVdCbA6z2eYzHI/

I'd watch churches really closely, but it's actually a pretty useful experiment to kind of pinpoint exactly where you see superspreading events

Still, if Georgia is taking steps to loosen up (whether you define those steps as "half-assed" or "measured"), I would've expected some spike/growth, even if most people are continuing to voluntarily stay home.

If the hypothesis is "fewer restrictions=increased spread" (which seems logical), Georgia's data doesn't really support that so far.

We should be good then.

Yeah that's totally what I said.

So we’re not good?  There is probably a reason China went to such extreme lengths to stamp out the virus before reopening.

I don't know.  All I said is that the data hasn't matched the reopening=spike in cases hypothesis in Georgia, and that I didn't know why.

[michigancat]

This is pretty crazy (and a good indication as to why we as a nation would be fine opening up in our current state) (we don't care if minorities get sick and die)

https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/1261143926318096384?s=19

[Kat Kid]

https://www.ft.com/content/97dc7de6-940b-11ea-abcd-371e24b679ed

[Cire]

Post the article kat kid


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[Kat Kid]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-feared-testing-too-many-people-for-virus-would-spook-stock-markets-says-report

[sys]

This is pretty crazy (and a good indication as to why we as a nation would be fine opening up in our current state) (we don't care if minorities get sick and die).

it's a good interview, but the point is pretty much made in the title.

https://twitter.com/TangledWebre/status/1260601272299905026

[sys]

kinda interesting; the distancing done to prevent cov2 also knocked down the prevalence of most other respiratory illness viruses.  but not rhinoviruses.

https://twitter.com/MackayIM/status/1261134783314186240

[catastrophe]

kinda interesting; the distancing done to prevent cov2 also knocked down the prevalence of most other respiratory illness viruses.  but not rhinoviruses.

https://twitter.com/MackayIM/status/1261134783314186240

Especially given how well the whites were doing in Mich’s post, I’m wondering if they’re just assuming stuff like COVID can be transmitted by touching common surfaces, but only stuff like Rhino actually does get transmitted that way.

Would sure be an awesome piece of info to have if something like that were true.

[michigancat]

Another thread looking at transmission that summarizes a lot of what's been discussed.  Seems like airflow is a big deal.

https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1260905937910587392

https://twitter.com/firefoxx66/status/1260905963961438209

[sonofdaxjones]

Take your Vitamin D, kids.


Not good news from across the border

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260525662475112448?s=20