CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[michigancat]

We also will probably have a second, more massive peak this fall/winter.

i doubt that.  i don't think a full on, massive outbreak can occur in the absence of a naive population.

Less than 2 full months in we have people with military grade weapons protesting lockdown orders. People going to Costco canceling their subscriptions because they have to wear a mask. This is less than 2 months in. People like Dax and Bqqkie are making it a certainty this will happen. They are not alone, there are tens upon tens of millions of these people.

I think it's going to be sustained ~2000 deaths per day with states going in and out of half assed lockdowns until there's a vaccine. This assumes there will be enough nursing homes to infect over that time.

You just can’t shut down and reopen and shut down etc. that’s not how businesses work. I don’t have the answers but it’s gonna be a long next year to a year and a half. Fall/winter will be worse, based on how this virus attaches itself to humans there’s no avoiding a higher spike when it gets colder.

oh I don't think we should, but that's what's going to happen because there will be spikes here and there in the future because there is no apparent effort at any level in the US to really stop the virus other than a vaccine or praying HCQ works. shelter in place flattened the curve but that's it.

[DaBigTrain]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1259489117047599104?s=20

Are you packaging this into the hoax conspiracy now?

My lawd you are as dumb as a brick.

This is a bqqkie level quote. We know more now about this illness than we did in March. We also will probably have a second, more massive peak this fall/winter. Guess what, we will probably need them then, dumbass.

First off you perpetual dumbass.  You'll  have to take it up with AP, I didn't write the article.

Remember though, people like you, total Mush Brained Useful Idiots lost your crap about ventilators.    You parroted people like Mario "Nursing Homes of Death" Cuomo. 

And no, we probably won't need them again, because we now know that ventilators are for the most part, bad.

You can try and rewrite history like dear leader has tried but again, we know more now than then. At the time(and still now) the Trump admin has no rough ridin' idea what it is doing. Except for taking advice from a complete downgrade in Jared Kushner, who has no business AT ALL being an advisor, let alone in government.

Apparently you also know what the future discoveries will be with this novel virus. It’s an honor to be able to BBS with someone who truly knows it all. rough ridin' idiot.

In the span of 24 hours one of the people you parrot all the time, Mario "Nursing Homes of Death" Cuomo went from saying they don't have enough ventilators and people are dying, to they're stockpiling ventilators and have plenty for the foreseeable future . . . in a day.

Massive field hospitals . . . barely utilized, the hospital ships already back at their home ports.    You completely lost your crap parrot boy.

Reposting for probably the 3rd time. Absolute dumbass.

LOL, that graph is to exhibit the outcomes of social distancing, quarantines etc. etc.   All of which I agreed with. 

But it's hilarious to read you getting all pissed and talking about how we know so many more things now, when you've been shitting your pants and demanding that everyone in the administration know everything all the time.   Just admit, in the back of your dumb little mushed brained useful idiot head you thought Trump was a complete racist for shutting down travel from China because that's what Joe, Nancy and Chuck told you to think.   You also believed all the headlines from the NYT's, Vox etc etc about how we needed to worry about the flu and not Covid-19.

I didn’t cut like 39 of the 49 teams responsible for diseases. Trump attends like MAYBE 1 coronavirus briefing a week, then denies questions for the actual scientists because he needs attention and thinks he’s on some reality TV show. It’s a rough ridin' joke.

Again, you are trying to rewrite history. All of the major news networks told us this wasn’t the flu except....Fox News. The propaganda arm of dear leader until they started walking it all back. Then, you and the rest of rough ridin' idiot nation looked to OAN, which is the most state nation propaganda machine in a generation, except for your guy Alex Jones satire network.

[sys]

Less than 2 full months in we have people with military grade weapons protesting lockdown orders. People going to Costco canceling their subscriptions because they have to wear a mask. This is less than 2 months in.

a very small percentage of the population.  and you aren't seeing these protests in nyc.  the world over, with or without state sanction, people are responding when they perceive a credible threat by taking distancing measures that, by and large, are effective.

[michigancat]

We also will probably have a second, more massive peak this fall/winter.

i doubt that.  i don't think a full on, massive outbreak can occur in the absence of a naive population.

Less than 2 full months in we have people with military grade weapons protesting lockdown orders. People going to Costco canceling their subscriptions because they have to wear a mask. This is less than 2 months in. People like Dax and Bqqkie are making it a certainty this will happen. They are not alone, there are tens upon tens of millions of these people.

I think it's going to be sustained ~2000 deaths per day with states going in and out of half assed lockdowns until there's a vaccine. This assumes there will be enough nursing homes to infect over that time.

You just can’t shut down and reopen and shut down etc. that’s not how businesses work. I don’t have the answers but it’s gonna be a long next year to a year and a half. Fall/winter will be worse, based on how this virus attaches itself to humans there’s no avoiding a higher spike when it gets colder.

oh I don't think we should, but that's what's going to happen because there will be spikes here and there in the future because there is no apparent effort at any level in the US to really stop the virus other than a vaccine or praying HCQ works. shelter in place flattened the curve but that's it.

or there will be no lockdown and people just won't go to restaurants or retail stores or concerts which honestly might not be better for businesses because they'll be less likely to be bailed out. It's like sys said, people will know what's going on and adjust their behavior. but I don't think we'll be under 1000 deaths per day for a sustained period of time without any government intervention.

[sys]

Heard an interesting factoid that we’ve all breathed some of the same molecules as Cesar’s last breath. Not a critique of your point or relevant to this thread. Just made me think of it and I wanted to share. Everyone stay safe out there.

i forget the exact numbers, but i saw something to the effect that like almost all of the gold every mined is still in human possession and like 75% has been mined since 1900.  so if you have an older coin or piece of jewelry or whatever, there's a good chance it includes some gold mined by romans, some from the spanish new world territories, etc.

[DaBigTrain]

Less than 2 full months in we have people with military grade weapons protesting lockdown orders. People going to Costco canceling their subscriptions because they have to wear a mask. This is less than 2 months in.

a very small percentage of the population.  and you aren't seeing these protests in nyc.  the world over, with or without state sanction, people are responding when they perceive a credible threat by taking distancing measures that, by and large, are effective.

On Wednesday when that LOL plandemic thing came out, I had 2 people very close to me send it to me. I was very upset because both of these people mean a lot to me.

Like I said, we are only 2 months in. Already these peoples true beliefs are surfacing. It’s only going to get worse.

[sys]

people believe all sorts of insane things.  but believing something dumb doesn't increase your risk of infection.


i saw a blurb yesterday from a paper on mask use that claimed 80% mask use was nearly as effective as 100%.  and 20% nearly as effectless as 0%.  i didn't follow through to the paper, so i can't vouch for the math, but i think the concept applies.  it doesn't matter all that much if a small minority of people are reckless.  the rational behavior of the majority protects them too.

[DaBigTrain]

We also will probably have a second, more massive peak this fall/winter.

i doubt that.  i don't think a full on, massive outbreak can occur in the absence of a naive population.

Less than 2 full months in we have people with military grade weapons protesting lockdown orders. People going to Costco canceling their subscriptions because they have to wear a mask. This is less than 2 months in. People like Dax and Bqqkie are making it a certainty this will happen. They are not alone, there are tens upon tens of millions of these people.

I think it's going to be sustained ~2000 deaths per day with states going in and out of half assed lockdowns until there's a vaccine. This assumes there will be enough nursing homes to infect over that time.

You just can’t shut down and reopen and shut down etc. that’s not how businesses work. I don’t have the answers but it’s gonna be a long next year to a year and a half. Fall/winter will be worse, based on how this virus attaches itself to humans there’s no avoiding a higher spike when it gets colder.

oh I don't think we should, but that's what's going to happen because there will be spikes here and there in the future because there is no apparent effort at any level in the US to really stop the virus other than a vaccine or praying HCQ works. shelter in place flattened the curve but that's it.

or there will be no lockdown and people just won't go to restaurants or retail stores or concerts which honestly might not be better for businesses because they'll be less likely to be bailed out. It's like sys said, people will know what's going on and adjust their behavior. but I don't think we'll be under 1000 deaths per day for a sustained period of time without any government intervention.

Yeah this will probably be the case, sadly. The Trump admin has no rough ridin' clue what they are doing. The recent infections in the White House will probably spread. As much as I rough ridin' absolutely hate Trump, I don’t want him to get it. He represents the US, whether I like it or not, he is the leader of our country.

Their carelessness will kill so many additional people that didn’t deserve it. I just hope when he is defeated in November is gets the eff out of the way. Biden may not be the best choice but I think he will at least listen to people who know what the eff they are doing.

[treysolid]

i like how dax has been touting the performance of "first world alabama", but their per capita numbers aren't impressive AT ALL.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

^Alot of counties already in the deep red (>400 cases per 100k residents), and the proximity to hotspots in LA, MS and GA is gonna eff you harder. Best of luck!

[sys]

I don't think we'll be under 1000 deaths per day for a sustained period of time without any government intervention.

yeah, this seems likely to me too.  it takes govt coordination to exterminate the virus.

[DaBigTrain]

i like how dax has been touting the performance of "first world alabama", but their per capita numbers aren't impressive AT ALL.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

^Alot of counties already in the deep red (>400 cases per 100k residents), and the proximity to hotspots in LA, MS and GA is gonna eff you harder. Best of luck!

Nobody outside of Dax himself has ever touted him as a credible source, for about anything.

[Phil Titola]

Dax admitting Trump and the admin were dumbasses to emergency build ventilators brought on by a fragmented state response to this outbreak was a nice monday morning treat.

[DQ12]

Dax admitting Trump and the admin were dumbasses to emergency build ventilators brought on by a fragmented state response to this outbreak was a nice monday morning treat.

I mean, I get why there was the ventilator rush, but in hindsight, it seems pretty hamfisted.

[DQ12]

The US was looking intousing the ventilator excess for international aid tho right, so something good can come out of the it?

Yeah I mean, it's a positive thing that there are now more ventilators in the world I guess, but (with the benefit of hindsight), probably not a very efficient allocations of our March/April resources.

[Rage Against the McKee]

It's a product of not listening to any sort of advice from anyone who knows what they are talking about and only reacting to things you see on television.

[DQ12]

Btw, 979 reported deaths yesterday.   

[Phil Titola]

Btw, 979 reported deaths yesterday.   

 

Is Georgia really "open" does anybody know? Their numbers haven't grown and by my count, they are 14+ days after their official reopening on the 24th.

[Phil Titola]

Feel bad for Dax, he will now have to say masks are dumb

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/ceo-iowa-asked-remove-masks-mike-pence.html

[Bqqkie Pimp]

The US was looking intousing the ventilator excess for international aid tho right, so something good can come out of the it?

Yeah I mean, it's a positive thing that there are now more ventilators in the world I guess, but (with the benefit of hindsight), probably not a very efficient allocations of our March/April resources.

It's what the crazy far left and MSM demanded... So, it was provided to show what dumbasses they are/were.

Sometimes you can't TELL the public the truth.  YOU MUST SHOW THEM.

[DQ12]

Btw, 979 reported deaths yesterday.   

 

Is Georgia really "open" does anybody know? Their numbers haven't grown and by my count, they are 14+ days after their official reopening on the 24th.

Last week was MO's deadliest week by over 20%. 

[bucket]

Btw, 979 reported deaths yesterday.   

 

Is Georgia really "open" does anybody know? Their numbers haven't grown and by my count, they are 14+ days after their official reopening on the 24th.

The findings also show that, over the last few weeks, five states – Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, South Dakota, and Georgia – have seen at least a 20 percentage point increase in mobility patterns. In addition, 13 states have experienced between a 15 and 20 percentage point increase: Alabama, Alaska, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/people-begin-moving-about-states-open-leading-ihme-project-slight-increase-us-covid-19

IMHE used cell phone data for their findings. In another article I saw how 60,000 people traveled to Georgia after they reopened.

[michigancat]

Btw, 979 reported deaths yesterday.   

 

Is Georgia really "open" does anybody know? Their numbers haven't grown and by my count, they are 14+ days after their official reopening on the 24th.

I expect it will be stable for a while, probably until bars and churches get full again or it hits a large nursing home. People modified their behavior even if mobility is up. IMO every state should consider "reopening" based on the behavior changes. I just don't know how that impacts things like PPP or future bailouts for a lot of service industries. Because like, I'm probably not going to a bar or a concert for quite a while and I'm guessing I'm not alone.

also looking at when each state reopened vs. its number of cases makes it seem like there is no rhyme or reason for the decisions.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/states-reopen-map-coronavirus.html

[michigancat]

more from Bright's whistleblowing complaint

https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/1259845045131378696

[Phil Titola]

Btw, 979 reported deaths yesterday.   

 

Is Georgia really "open" does anybody know? Their numbers haven't grown and by my count, they are 14+ days after their official reopening on the 24th.

I expect it will be stable for a while, probably until bars and churches get full again or it hits a large nursing home. People modified their behavior even if mobility is up. IMO every state should consider "reopening" based on the behavior changes. I just don't know how that impacts things like PPP or future bailouts for a lot of service industries. Because like, I'm probably not going to a bar or a concert for quite a while and I'm guessing I'm not alone.

also looking at when each state reopened vs. its number of cases makes it seem like there is no rhyme or reason for the decisions.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/states-reopen-map-coronavirus.html

Good info.  I don't even think daily case count is all the great of a reopening indicator even though I mentioned it in my Georgia comment.  That seems to vary wildly and is impacted by ramping up testing and something like a meat packing plant testing results. 

Seems to me spread out restaurants, masks, good hygiene (I assume those are the behaviors you are referencing) is the more sensible way to do it. 

[Phil Titola]

Herd immunity at 7-24%, not 81% according to this research.

https://judithcurry.com/2020/05/10/why-herd-immunity-to-covid-19-is-reached-much-earlier-than-thought/#_edn22