CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[sonofdaxjones]

The expectation that a country like the United States was going to stop this thing cold is quite humorous.

The Asian Flu killed 116K to 125k Americans and the scientist who developed the vaccine already had the vaccine work under way before it even hit the United States when he just said eff the Federal bureaucracy and did it on his own and got the materials he needed for the research with a few phone calls.  But then again, nobody freaked out and completely lost their crap and we didn't have fear porn TV running 24/7 and two parties trying to politicize the whole thing.

Now we've got wonks like Fauci, Brix and Redfield running the show and they've had a strangle hold on all things pandemic in this country for decades, with their bloat and bureaucracy and at times extremely questionable dealings.

a) trump said we are going to stop it cold multiple times
b) there is a huge gap between "stop it cold" and our current situation.

Phil, you're not capable of handling this discussion.

tapout noted.

Fact is not a tap out

[michigancat]

the UNC people were the one's that were shut down (until the CDC and NIH got all secretive about it and Fauci quietly sent a few million to Wuhan to help facilitate bat man and bat woman).

huh?

Why are you always so far behind?

It's a bit convoluted, but domestic SARS/MERS research got placed in moratorium in 2014.  Baric (UNC) and others got shut down.

The CDC, Fauci et. al. under the cover of secrecy started it all up again after the moratorium ended, and they off shored it. 

The CDC was funding bat woman, first the collection of viruses, then Fauci started pushing "gain of control" research in 2019 and provided funding for that phase.   Per Newsweek, over 200 scientists criticized the gain of control research because it essentially moves the virus through a process where they purposely create mutations that can jump to humans in order to do research for vaccines.  Bat woman got $3.5 million from Fauci for the second phase and it also involved Fauci buddy Dr.  Peter Daszak of the "Eco Health Alliance". 

Both Fauci and Daszak need to answer a lot of questions, and both doth protest too much at the notion of the virus escaping the lab IMO.

Dax that's an interesting yet non-mainstream story but I'm not sure why you used it to change the subject from the scientists questioning your study but... Oh actually I do know why you mentioned it. Never mind

[DaBigTrain]

This may not last long as youtube is pulling stuff like this quick so that you don't see it...  VERY informative for those who are so inclined to better understand what's going on.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFPeN17PVU8&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Bookie, you believing in the most ridiculous crap no questions asked while calling objectively true stuff fake news is MAGA AF. Did not click the link but assume applicable here given the “youtube is pulling” disclaimer.


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LOL, posted by a guy who literally believes everything he is told to believe.

YouTube took it down. Sorry Dax, another voice of reason has been silenced. 

[michigancat]

This may not last long as youtube is pulling stuff like this quick so that you don't see it...  VERY informative for those who are so inclined to better understand what's going on.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFPeN17PVU8&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Bookie, you believing in the most ridiculous crap no questions asked while calling objectively true stuff fake news is MAGA AF. Did not click the link but assume applicable here given the “youtube is pulling” disclaimer.


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LOL, posted by a guy who literally believes everything he is told to believe.

YouTube took it down. Sorry Dax, another voice of reason has been silenced. 

LOL I guarantee that is exactly what those grifters wanted

[steve dave]

Bookie!




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[wetwillie]

Interesting if true

[MakeItRain]

Wacky had himself a good cinco de mayo i think.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/4E9ydw_aDMg[/youtube]

[MakeItRain]

Bookie!




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God I hope that actually happened, that's how you have to treat these people, can't treat them with dignity and respect, they don't speak that language.

[420seriouscat69]

I honestly wasn’t that bad last night, guys. See the treating your body like a trash can thread. I Just get annoyed at times by the usual characters talking crap on the U.S. during the pandemic and why people suck, but also taking the time to reason why other countries are “doing better “, not really knowing anything about their situations or if the numbers are real. It’s Just getting annoying.

[DQ12]

I honestly wasn’t that bad last night, guys. See the treating your body like a trash can thread. I Just get annoyed at times by the usual characters talking crap on the U.S. during the pandemic and why people suck, but also taking the time to reason why other countries are “doing better “, not really knowing anything about their situations or if the numbers are real. It’s Just getting annoying.

I agree, Wacky.  That does get obnoxious.  Not to criticize anyone in particular here, but that sentiment in general.

[420seriouscat69]

 

[michigancat]

I honestly wasn’t that bad last night, guys. See the treating your body like a trash can thread. I Just get annoyed at times by the usual characters talking crap on the U.S. during the pandemic and why people suck, but also taking the time to reason why other countries are “doing better “, not really knowing anything about their situations or if the numbers are real. It’s Just getting annoying.

Especially when we're really doing so great! USA #1!

[420seriouscat69]

Lol, that’s not the point. It just seems like the same cast of Debbie Downers are willing to make compromises for other countries numbers on here, while shaming their own. Weren’t we projected at 2.2 million deaths from this?


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[DQ12]

I honestly wasn’t that bad last night, guys. See the treating your body like a trash can thread. I Just get annoyed at times by the usual characters talking crap on the U.S. during the pandemic and why people suck, but also taking the time to reason why other countries are “doing better “, not really knowing anything about their situations or if the numbers are real. It’s Just getting annoying.

Especially when we're really doing so great! USA #1!

We're not doing that bad compared to some other western countries.  UK, France, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands.

[bucket]

Weren’t we projected at 2.2 million deaths from this?
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Yes, if we did absolutely nothing

[DaBigTrain]

This has been posted before but reposting.

[michigancat]

I honestly wasn’t that bad last night, guys. See the treating your body like a trash can thread. I Just get annoyed at times by the usual characters talking crap on the U.S. during the pandemic and why people suck, but also taking the time to reason why other countries are “doing better “, not really knowing anything about their situations or if the numbers are real. It’s Just getting annoying.

Especially when we're really doing so great! USA #1!

We're not doing that bad compared to some other western countries.  UK, France, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands.

Don't forget Sweden! Belgium was crazy bad, sys is right that it's weird it hasn't gotten more attention. May be worth noting that all those countries (except Sweden) are pretty clearly trending down.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-per-million-7-day-average?country=BEL+CHE+SWE+FRA+NLD+USA+GBR

[Phil Titola]

I can't imagine us doing any better than this. Shame on anybody suggesting  otherwise or expecting America to deliver better.

[DQ12]

G8 Countries Deaths Per Capita (least to most):
1. Japan
2. Russia*
3. Germany
4. Canada
5. USA
6. France
7. UK
8. Italy

G8 Countries Testing Per 1m (most to least)
1.  Italy 38221
2.  Germany 32891
3.  Russia 31752*
4.  Canada 25795
5.  USA 24185
6.  UK 21330
7.  France 16856
8.  Japan 1473

[Spracne]

Unknown effects/alt facts of weakening your immune system through mask wearing and right to choice is certainly something I didn't expect.

Has it been mentioned that the pro choice/pro life divide has completely inverted in this scenario?

[Phil Titola]

Honestly overall I am optimistic.  That said my disappointment since late April is directly on governors/mayors opening up faster than even the federal guidance says and citizens who are protesting in the streets about wearing masks / not opening up fast enough and thinking this is all fake and not taking this seriously.

[Phil Titola]

G8 Countries Deaths Per Capita (least to most):
1. Japan
2. Russia*
3. Germany
4. Canada
5. USA
6. France
7. UK
8. Italy

G8 Countries Testing Per 1m (most to least)
1.  Italy 38221
2.  Germany 32891
3.  Russia 31752*
4.  Canada 25795
5.  USA 24185
6.  UK 21330
7.  France 16856
8.  Japan 1473

Since we are still in the throws of us not sure this question matters as much but is this where you expect the USA to be?

[DQ12]

G8 Countries Deaths Per Capita (least to most):
1. Japan
2. Russia*
3. Germany
4. Canada
5. USA
6. France
7. UK
8. Italy

G8 Countries Testing Per 1m (most to least)
1.  Italy 38221
2.  Germany 32891
3.  Russia 31752*
4.  Canada 25795
5.  USA 24185
6.  UK 21330
7.  France 16856
8.  Japan 1473

Since we are still in the throws of us not sure this question matters as much but is this where you expect the USA to be?

I'd rather us be higher but I'm glad we're not lower.

[steve dave]

freedom's not free phil

[michigancat]

Canada's looking bad, too

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-per-million-7-day-average?country=FRA+USA+GBR+DEU+ITA+JPN+CAN+RUS

Japan makes no sense