CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

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Newsom was supposed to outline a plan for re-opening the state today. He sorta did - it's more like a plan to determine criteria that will allow reopening and is still pretty vague.

https://twitter.com/akoseff/status/1250142634124795904

(also a recap thread here)

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1250150112602406912

These no-crap declarations should be coupled with what the action plan is - who's doing what to achieve those goals. 

[sys]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1250159339781922816?s=20

those cases have not yet been added to any of the databases, but apparently they're coming.  it's gonna eff up my polls when they hit.  gonna have to decide how to handle that.

April 14 (GMT)

23526 new cases and 2214 new deaths in the United States

New York City today has reported 3,778 additional deaths that have occurred since March 11 and have been classified as "probable," defined as follows: “decedent [...] had no known positive laboratory test for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) but the death certificate lists as a cause of death “COVID-19” or an equivalent" [source]. We will add these to the New York State total as soon as it is determined whether the historical distribution can be obtained

[sonofdaxjones]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1250159339781922816?s=20

those cases have not yet been added to any of the databases, but apparently they're coming.  it's gonna eff up my polls when they hit.  gonna have to decide how to handle that.

April 14 (GMT)

23526 new cases and 2214 new deaths in the United States

New York City today has reported 3,778 additional deaths that have occurred since March 11 and have been classified as "probable," defined as follows: “decedent [...] had no known positive laboratory test for SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) but the death certificate lists as a cause of death “COVID-19” or an equivalent" [source]. We will add these to the New York State total as soon as it is determined whether the historical distribution can be obtained

You can always call out the political agenda (but you won't)

[Bqqkie Pimp]

Qqqkie, you believe this virus was made in a chinese lab? As a bioweapon?

Could maaaaayybee be a possibility, I suppose.

https://twitter.com/TruthHammer888/status/1250183122471149568?s=20

https://www.foxnews.com/world/state-department-cables-coronavirus-origin-chinese-lab-bats

The United Kingdom has said that the idea that the virus, which has turned into a full-blown global pandemic, was leaked from a Wuhan lab is "no longer being discounted."

A member of the U.K. government's emergency committee of senior officials claimed Sunday: "There is a credible alternative view (to the zoonotic theory) based on the nature of the virus. Perhaps it is no coincidence that there is a laboratory in Wuhan."

Foreign affairs expert Gordon Chang said in a recent opinion piece on Fox News that "many Chinese believe the virus either was deliberately released or accidentally escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a P4-level bio-safety facility."

To be fair, US officials were still denying this as a possibility last week per the article, however I expect that position to change when appropriate to let the truth out. 

[DQ12]

Even if the virus did come from a lab, it doesn't necessarily mean that it was developed as a bioweapon. 

[kim carnes]

Newsom was supposed to outline a plan for re-opening the state today. He sorta did - it's more like a plan to determine criteria that will allow reopening and is still pretty vague.

https://twitter.com/akoseff/status/1250142634124795904

(also a recap thread here)

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1250150112602406912

These no-crap declarations should be coupled with what the action plan is - who's doing what to achieve those goals.

#5 seems all but impossible.  #1 seems like it would take awhile to achieve.

[Phil Titola]

Newsom was supposed to outline a plan for re-opening the state today. He sorta did - it's more like a plan to determine criteria that will allow reopening and is still pretty vague.

https://twitter.com/akoseff/status/1250142634124795904

(also a recap thread here)

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1250150112602406912

These no-crap declarations should be coupled with what the action plan is - who's doing what to achieve those goals.

#5 seems all but impossible.  #1 seems like it would take awhile to achieve.

It really doesn't make any sense. All 6 of those are hard to achieve but then he says it will be like a dimmer turning things on. Does the dimmer not move until they achieve those 6 things?

And declaring now no crowds over 100 without a vaccine is just bluster and makes no sense to state that now.

[michigancat]

Newsom was supposed to outline a plan for re-opening the state today. He sorta did - it's more like a plan to determine criteria that will allow reopening and is still pretty vague.

https://twitter.com/akoseff/status/1250142634124795904

(also a recap thread here)

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1250150112602406912

These no-crap declarations should be coupled with what the action plan is - who's doing what to achieve those goals.

#5 seems all but impossible.  #1 seems like it would take awhile to achieve.

It really doesn't make any sense. All 6 of those are hard to achieve but then he says it will be like a dimmer turning things on. Does the dimmer not move until they achieve those 6 things?

And declaring now no crowds over 100 without a vaccine is just bluster and makes no sense to state that now.

He's said those are "indicators that will guide" the decision

https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1250144561986297857

I read that as, a social distancing plan for a school will determine when it can reopen. Regional hospital surge capacity will determine when a region can reopen and how. Contract tracing ability and availability of therapudics will impact everything, etc.

[Phil Titola]

If he truly thinks no groups of 100 before a vaccine he might as well shutter every hotel now. Hospitality industry overall really.

[michigancat]

If he truly thinks no groups of 100 before a vaccine he might as well shutter every hotel now. Hospitality industry overall really.

Hotels would honestly still be ok, at least functionally. Not sure how air travel would work though

[sys]

i read the dimmer analogy as being that you could increase the brightness a little as some conditions are partially fulfilled, but it doesn't get to full brightness until all of them are.

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I read that as, a social distancing plan for a school will determine when it can reopen. Regional hospital surge capacity will determine when a region can reopen and how. Contract tracing ability and availability of therapudics will impact everything, etc.

Yeah.  So now for example, are school districts to be working right now on retrofitting the school buildings to accommodate?  Should available buildings be getting transformed into temporary hospitals?  Would those be state-operated?  Are there representatives of different interests negotiating out a plan to implement contact tracing with privacy rights retained, etc.?

All the generic statements without accompanying plans and explanations annoy me.

[Phil Titola]

If he truly thinks no groups of 100 before a vaccine he might as well shutter every hotel now. Hospitality industry overall really.

Hotels would honestly still be ok, at least functionally. Not sure how air travel would work though

Hotels will definitely die.  Not your Motel 8's of the world but any full service would.

[sys]

middle of a global pandemic is about the optimal time to cut funding to health organizations focused on the world, imo.

[Phil Titola]

I read that as, a social distancing plan for a school will determine when it can reopen. Regional hospital surge capacity will determine when a region can reopen and how. Contract tracing ability and availability of therapudics will impact everything, etc.

Yeah.  So now for example, are school districts to be working right now on retrofitting the school buildings to accommodate?  Should available buildings be getting transformed into temporary hospitals?  Would those be state-operated?  Are there representatives of different interests negotiating out a plan to implement contact tracing with privacy rights retained, etc.?

All the generic statements without accompanying plans and explanations annoy me.

we are here to announce a plan to get a plan around these mission statements.  Thank you.

[michigancat]

I read that as, a social distancing plan for a school will determine when it can reopen. Regional hospital surge capacity will determine when a region can reopen and how. Contract tracing ability and availability of therapudics will impact everything, etc.

Yeah.  So now for example, are school districts to be working right now on retrofitting the school buildings to accommodate?  Should available buildings be getting transformed into temporary hospitals?  Would those be state-operated?  Are there representatives of different interests negotiating out a plan to implement contact tracing with privacy rights retained, etc.?

All the generic statements without accompanying plans and explanations annoy me.

Yeah. Really, this should have been done weeks ago. But it's more of a developed plan than we've seen from anywhere else as far as I can tell.

[sys]

Hotels will definitely die.  Not your Motel 8's of the world but any full service would.

not sure there were gonna be a lot of conventions getting booked regardless of state limits on crowds.

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I read that as, a social distancing plan for a school will determine when it can reopen. Regional hospital surge capacity will determine when a region can reopen and how. Contract tracing ability and availability of therapudics will impact everything, etc.

Yeah.  So now for example, are school districts to be working right now on retrofitting the school buildings to accommodate?  Should available buildings be getting transformed into temporary hospitals?  Would those be state-operated?  Are there representatives of different interests negotiating out a plan to implement contact tracing with privacy rights retained, etc.?

All the generic statements without accompanying plans and explanations annoy me.

Yeah. Really, this should have been done weeks ago. But it's more of a developed plan than we've seen from anywhere else as far as I can tell.

I can't call it a plan.  It's more of a christmas list.

[michigancat]

I had a convention booked for March that they rescheduled for August and I wonder if it'll happen.

[michigancat]

I read that as, a social distancing plan for a school will determine when it can reopen. Regional hospital surge capacity will determine when a region can reopen and how. Contract tracing ability and availability of therapudics will impact everything, etc.

Yeah.  So now for example, are school districts to be working right now on retrofitting the school buildings to accommodate?  Should available buildings be getting transformed into temporary hospitals?  Would those be state-operated?  Are there representatives of different interests negotiating out a plan to implement contact tracing with privacy rights retained, etc.?

All the generic statements without accompanying plans and explanations annoy me.

Yeah. Really, this should have been done weeks ago. But it's more of a developed plan than we've seen from anywhere else as far as I can tell.

I can't call it a plan.  It's more of a christmas list.

It's more of a thought process of how a Christmas list will be developed.

[michigancat]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1250190830884790273

(I went looking for his plan to reopen and found this)

[ChiComCat]

Trump pulling funding from the WHO because it’s somebody else’s fault. It’s not like there is anything going on anyways.

[sys]

https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1250200368941842432

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I read that as, a social distancing plan for a school will determine when it can reopen. Regional hospital surge capacity will determine when a region can reopen and how. Contract tracing ability and availability of therapudics will impact everything, etc.

Yeah.  So now for example, are school districts to be working right now on retrofitting the school buildings to accommodate?  Should available buildings be getting transformed into temporary hospitals?  Would those be state-operated?  Are there representatives of different interests negotiating out a plan to implement contact tracing with privacy rights retained, etc.?

All the generic statements without accompanying plans and explanations annoy me.

Yeah. Really, this should have been done weeks ago. But it's more of a developed plan than we've seen from anywhere else as far as I can tell.

I can't call it a plan.  It's more of a christmas list.

It's more of a thought process of how a Christmas list will be developed.

[DaBigTrain]

middle of a global pandemic is about the optimal time to cut funding to health organizations focused on the world, imo.

It’s what the best president ever does because he’s the best president ever and handling this perfectly despite everyone else holding him back.