CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[steve dave]

Wacky, quit fighting with everyone all the time 24/7/365


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[420seriouscat69]

LN, you’ve grown up on a Navy Base, with Navy ppl, school covered, etc. Tell us why you relate to anyone else in this thread?

 

I grew up on a small farm and paid for college myself.

Way more social than distancing.

Hey dumbass, I’ve taken one unemployment check in my lifetime. That was a joke towards our government. That isn’t a socialist thing, it’s a, give me some of my $ back, that I’ll end up paying back eventually thing, Rage. Don’t be a jackass.

also I understand that this is stressful but stop being such a prick

Thanks

Until it effects you, you’ll keep doing your crap. I’m not being a prick, just giving you guys a head start on what’s about to come. You can thank me later.

also this is rich

Giving us a head start on what's about to come?

do tell

Didn’t you say your dad was in the Navy and you moved around with him in the past? I guess you lied about that? Weird. Anyways, if you guys are still working, your companies are trying to float your bloated salaries as long as they can, before everything goes “POP!”. You’ll be replaced by people for half the costs. We’re going into a soon to be 5 year recession to save your racist grandparents.

[Brock Landers]

When day drinking goes wrong.......

 

[420seriouscat69]

 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think we will bounce back faster than that. I've always been pretty optimistic, though.

[Dugout DickStone]

holy crap

[star seed 7]

I'd just like to clarify that although I'm from Kansas, my grandparents are not racist

[Dugout DickStone]

I'd just like to clarify that although I'm from Kansas, my grandparents are not racist

stop lying

[Phil Titola]

https://www.politico.eu/article/locked-down-europe-how-long-can-afford-this/

"It is impossible to live — even in self-isolation — and to cure people, if we do not continue the economic activity that, quite simply, permits us to live in this country,” he said while chairing an "economy task force" dealing with the outbreak.
Macron is also the most prominent voice to warn people that a vaccine is not imminent, and probably won't arrive until the end of 2021. The message is clear: It won't be possible for people to stay at home until then.

"It’s a very difficult balancing act," said Mujtaba Rahman, Europe director at EurasiaGroup, a political risk consultancy firm. "It’s not clear that any government has a credible exit strategy."

The Imperial College London study offers another approach: A phase of alternating lockdowns and relaxations over a total period of two years, during which governments relax social distancing measures for about a month, every three months or so.
Sébastien Maillard, director of the Jacques Delors Institute in Paris, said he expects “a moment more of strict confinement, gradually back to a functional economy, and perhaps unfortunately later in the year we’d have to go back to social confinement until we get that vaccine.”
Researchers warned that any periods of respite would be short. “Social distancing — plus school and university closure, if used — need to be in force for the majority of the two years of the simulation,” the study's authors wrote.
This leaves governments with the same dilemma: They will need to prepare their populations for either a year or more under lockdown, or for massive deaths in the coming months. Neither is an easy sell.

Not one person has said we are locking people up in their homes until a vaccine.  The whole goal right now is to give us time.  Time to handle more sick people, time to build up testing, time to develop a strategy for getting people back out, time to figure this virus details out, time to find therapeutic options.

[star seed 7]

I'd just like to clarify that although I'm from Kansas, my grandparents are not racist

stop lying

Hmm, one of my dead grandpas did love polack jokes...

[Justwin]

https://www.politico.eu/article/locked-down-europe-how-long-can-afford-this/

"It is impossible to live — even in self-isolation — and to cure people, if we do not continue the economic activity that, quite simply, permits us to live in this country,” he said while chairing an "economy task force" dealing with the outbreak.
Macron is also the most prominent voice to warn people that a vaccine is not imminent, and probably won't arrive until the end of 2021. The message is clear: It won't be possible for people to stay at home until then.

"It’s a very difficult balancing act," said Mujtaba Rahman, Europe director at EurasiaGroup, a political risk consultancy firm. "It’s not clear that any government has a credible exit strategy."

The Imperial College London study offers another approach: A phase of alternating lockdowns and relaxations over a total period of two years, during which governments relax social distancing measures for about a month, every three months or so.
Sébastien Maillard, director of the Jacques Delors Institute in Paris, said he expects “a moment more of strict confinement, gradually back to a functional economy, and perhaps unfortunately later in the year we’d have to go back to social confinement until we get that vaccine.”
Researchers warned that any periods of respite would be short. “Social distancing — plus school and university closure, if used — need to be in force for the majority of the two years of the simulation,” the study's authors wrote.
This leaves governments with the same dilemma: They will need to prepare their populations for either a year or more under lockdown, or for massive deaths in the coming months. Neither is an easy sell.

Not one person has said we are locking people up in their homes until a vaccine.  The whole goal right now is to give us time.  Time to handle more sick people, time to build up testing, time to develop a strategy for getting people back out, time to figure this virus details out, time to find therapeutic options.

How much time?  What is the exit strategy?

The point also is that to get all of the benefit of social distancing, you need to do it for 12-24 months, as stated in the Imperial College report.  Otherwise, you're still going to potentially have high death tolls.

[sys]

https://twitter.com/morningmoneyben/status/1243199563290284034

[BIG APPLE CAT]

https://www.politico.eu/article/locked-down-europe-how-long-can-afford-this/

"It is impossible to live — even in self-isolation — and to cure people, if we do not continue the economic activity that, quite simply, permits us to live in this country,” he said while chairing an "economy task force" dealing with the outbreak.
Macron is also the most prominent voice to warn people that a vaccine is not imminent, and probably won't arrive until the end of 2021. The message is clear: It won't be possible for people to stay at home until then.

"It’s a very difficult balancing act," said Mujtaba Rahman, Europe director at EurasiaGroup, a political risk consultancy firm. "It’s not clear that any government has a credible exit strategy."

The Imperial College London study offers another approach: A phase of alternating lockdowns and relaxations over a total period of two years, during which governments relax social distancing measures for about a month, every three months or so.
Sébastien Maillard, director of the Jacques Delors Institute in Paris, said he expects “a moment more of strict confinement, gradually back to a functional economy, and perhaps unfortunately later in the year we’d have to go back to social confinement until we get that vaccine.”
Researchers warned that any periods of respite would be short. “Social distancing — plus school and university closure, if used — need to be in force for the majority of the two years of the simulation,” the study's authors wrote.
This leaves governments with the same dilemma: They will need to prepare their populations for either a year or more under lockdown, or for massive deaths in the coming months. Neither is an easy sell.

Not one person has said we are locking people up in their homes until a vaccine.  The whole goal right now is to give us time.  Time to handle more sick people, time to build up testing, time to develop a strategy for getting people back out, time to figure this virus details out, time to find therapeutic options.

How much time?  What is the exit strategy?

The point also is that to get all of the benefit of social distancing, you need to do it for 12-24 months, as stated in the Imperial College report.  Otherwise, you're still going to potentially have high death tolls.

I feel like this has been covered 100 times but Justwin I just want to hear you say it - is the 12-24 months cited in the Imperial College report based on "doing nothing else" or does that account for innovations such as increased availability of testing, enhanced strategies for containment, and development of treatment/vaccines etc?

[bucket]

LN, you’ve grown up on a Navy Base, with Navy ppl, school covered, etc. Tell us why you relate to anyone else in this thread?

 

I grew up on a small farm and paid for college myself.

Way more social than distancing.

Hey dumbass, I’ve taken one unemployment check in my lifetime. That was a joke towards our government. That isn’t a socialist thing, it’s a, give me some of my $ back, that I’ll end up paying back eventually thing, Rage. Don’t be a jackass.

also I understand that this is stressful but stop being such a prick

Thanks

Until it effects you, you’ll keep doing your crap. I’m not being a prick, just giving you guys a head start on what’s about to come. You can thank me later.

also this is rich

Giving us a head start on what's about to come?

do tell

Didn’t you say your dad was in the Navy and you moved around with him in the past? I guess you lied about that? Weird. Anyways, if you guys are still working, your companies are trying to float your bloated salaries as long as they can, before everything goes “POP!”. You’ll be replaced by people for half the costs. We’re going into a soon to be 5 year recession to save your racist grandparents.

Wacky are you suggesting we let all of the racist grandparents die to save the economy?! 

[sys]

oh, no link, but i heard on the radio this morning that the us should have the capacity to do a million tests/week by the end of next week (i think it was by the end of the week - sometime next week, anyways).

which i think is probably about what is needed.  the turn around time that michigancat has mentioned at his wife's hospital has to improve; however, there's no reason or excuse for that.


mask production also seems to be ramping up pretty well.

[Institutional Control]

When day drinking goes wrong.......

 

Day drinking never goes wrong.


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[catastrophe]

https://www.politico.eu/article/locked-down-europe-how-long-can-afford-this/

"It is impossible to live — even in self-isolation — and to cure people, if we do not continue the economic activity that, quite simply, permits us to live in this country,” he said while chairing an "economy task force" dealing with the outbreak.
Macron is also the most prominent voice to warn people that a vaccine is not imminent, and probably won't arrive until the end of 2021. The message is clear: It won't be possible for people to stay at home until then.

"It’s a very difficult balancing act," said Mujtaba Rahman, Europe director at EurasiaGroup, a political risk consultancy firm. "It’s not clear that any government has a credible exit strategy."

The Imperial College London study offers another approach: A phase of alternating lockdowns and relaxations over a total period of two years, during which governments relax social distancing measures for about a month, every three months or so.
Sébastien Maillard, director of the Jacques Delors Institute in Paris, said he expects “a moment more of strict confinement, gradually back to a functional economy, and perhaps unfortunately later in the year we’d have to go back to social confinement until we get that vaccine.”
Researchers warned that any periods of respite would be short. “Social distancing — plus school and university closure, if used — need to be in force for the majority of the two years of the simulation,” the study's authors wrote.
This leaves governments with the same dilemma: They will need to prepare their populations for either a year or more under lockdown, or for massive deaths in the coming months. Neither is an easy sell.

Not one person has said we are locking people up in their homes until a vaccine.  The whole goal right now is to give us time.  Time to handle more sick people, time to build up testing, time to develop a strategy for getting people back out, time to figure this virus details out, time to find therapeutic options.

How much time?  What is the exit strategy?

The point also is that to get all of the benefit of social distancing, you need to do it for 12-24 months, as stated in the Imperial College report.  Otherwise, you're still going to potentially have high death tolls.

Even some of the benefit is better than none. Outside of maybe three healthcare systems in the country, no one even knows the extent of the problem in the US right now. Once that is determined it can be handled mostly at the state and local level IF testing capacity is dramatically improved.

Lots of people are going to die no matter what. The immediate goal is to minimize the number that die as a result of overwhelmed doctors determining they’re not worth the resources and effort to save. Once we feel better about that number folks will start going back to work.

[DQ12]

https://twitter.com/morningmoneyben/status/1243199563290284034

I wonder how prevalent/broad business interruption insurance policies are.  Might be a good thing for some small businesses to take a look at.

[sys]

i don't think it is the case that lots of people (in the us) are going to die no matter what.  depending on your definition of lots of people, of course.


there's no reason we can't do what east asian countries have done, and keep it up until a vaccine is available.

[sys]

I wonder how prevalent/broad business interruption insurance policies are.  Might be a good thing for some small businesses to take a look at.

if there was an insurance company writing policies that didn't exclude this sort of event, they're now bankrupt.

[Dugout DickStone]

https://twitter.com/morningmoneyben/status/1243199563290284034

I wonder how prevalent/broad business interruption insurance policies are.  Might be a good thing for some small businesses to take a look at.

Not gonna help most.

[DQ12]

https://twitter.com/morningmoneyben/status/1243199563290284034

I wonder how prevalent/broad business interruption insurance policies are.  Might be a good thing for some small businesses to take a look at.

Not gonna help most.

I imagine it varies policy to policy, but i know some policies have coverage for government-ordered shutdowns.

[Dugout DickStone]

https://twitter.com/morningmoneyben/status/1243199563290284034

I wonder how prevalent/broad business interruption insurance policies are.  Might be a good thing for some small businesses to take a look at.

Not gonna help most.

I imagine it varies policy to policy, but i know some policies have coverage for government-ordered shutdowns.

For sure.  I think covered event exclusion will get most businesses.  Part of reason why the bailouts are going to be so big.

[star seed 7]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-52045958

Holy crap - dude in belton wanted to bomb a hospital, gets into a shootout with fbi and is killed

[nicname]

LN, you’ve grown up on a Navy Base, with Navy ppl, school covered, etc. Tell us why you relate to anyone else in this thread?

 

I grew up on a small farm and paid for college myself.

Way more social than distancing.

Hey dumbass, I’ve taken one unemployment check in my lifetime. That was a joke towards our government. That isn’t a socialist thing, it’s a, give me some of my $ back, that I’ll end up paying back eventually thing, Rage. Don’t be a jackass.

also I understand that this is stressful but stop being such a prick

Thanks

Until it effects you, you’ll keep doing your crap. I’m not being a prick, just giving you guys a head start on what’s about to come. You can thank me later.

also this is rich

Giving us a head start on what's about to come?

do tell

i think he thinks you're a different dude