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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21450 on: January 16, 2023, 12:22:14 PM »


Let a "few more million people" die?  There's absolutely no way of knowing if a "few more million" people would have died. 

At the height of the original and delta outbreak, what was the death/survival rate (I won't use the real death rate because any discussion along those lines sends CoronaBro's into a total rage).   I believe if we'd stayed in lockdown that upon emerging more people would have died because protracted lock downs don't work, and we would have had thousands more people dead because of the mental outcomes of lock downs and also healthcare seeking hesitancy.
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Ok, this is at least a start, I’ll take it. So you’re outlined what you would NOT have done. You would not have mandated lockdown because it is a) ineffective and b) would have drastic consequences in the way of mental health outcomes as well as healthcare seeking hesitancy.

FWIW I don’t disagree with you on either of those points. Did anywhere in America continue to mandate protracted lockdown in any sort of meaningful way? And I’m not asking to be flippant. I only live in one place so my experience is anecdotal but it also seemed my experience was pretty common which was “fairly strict lockdown the first couple months bc nobody had any clue what was going on or how serious it was, followed by gradually more relaxed restrictions to the point that by fall 2020 you could more or less go about your daily life as long as you wore a mask in public (the horror!) and didn’t gather in large groups (again, the horror!)

So, I guess I still don’t know what should have been done. Best I can find is that without a vaccine the baseline would have been about 2500 deaths per day, up to 4500 deaths per day during surge seasons. And that’s just deaths, not accounting for all the hospitalizations that would keep people who needed an appendectomy from being able to have that very time sensitive operation bc every hospital bed in town is occupied by someone with Covid so let’s hope they can lifeflight you out to some remote hospital in Montana bc it’s the closest hospital with any open beds.

But even just from the simplified view of deaths alone, 2500-4500 American deaths a day for each day you don’t have a vaccine feels like a pretty steep interest rate to pay.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21451 on: January 16, 2023, 01:33:31 PM »
FWIW I don't think you're very delusional, sys

heh.
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21452 on: January 16, 2023, 01:40:30 PM »
if you could let me know the outcome of the Chief's game this weekend that would be fantastic!

they're likely to win.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nfl-predictions/?ex_cid=rrpromo
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21453 on: January 16, 2023, 01:45:22 PM »
Both sides are ginormous dorks.. common ground

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21454 on: January 16, 2023, 01:55:58 PM »
A lot of you seem to be in a hurry to blame trump 100% for the rushed nature of "Operation Warpspeed" and I think you should do your own research

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21455 on: January 16, 2023, 02:00:21 PM »
If you want to get a good idea of the effectiveness of the vaccine then simply compare how things have played between China and here.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21456 on: January 16, 2023, 02:20:36 PM »
If you want to get a good idea of the effectiveness of the vaccine then simply compare how things have played between China and here.

They have only had like 1000 deaths in the entire pandemic
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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21457 on: January 16, 2023, 02:39:42 PM »
I think it's reasonable to think that some if not many U.S. based CoronaBro's pined for a Zero Covid policy for these United States.  I feel fairly comfortable in saying that multiple CoronaBro'sgE would have fully supported such a folly.






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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21458 on: January 16, 2023, 03:00:24 PM »
I think it's reasonable to think that some if not many U.S. based CoronaBro's pined for a Zero Covid policy for these United States.  I feel fairly comfortable in saying that multiple CoronaBro'sgE would have fully supported such a folly.

After the vaccine was released?

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21459 on: January 16, 2023, 03:29:32 PM »
I think it's reasonable to think that some if not many U.S. based CoronaBro's pined for a Zero Covid policy for these United States.  I feel fairly comfortable in saying that multiple CoronaBro'sgE would have fully supported such a folly.

After the vaccine was released?

Among some, absolutely.


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21460 on: January 16, 2023, 04:29:26 PM »
Antivaxjones, name them
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21461 on: January 16, 2023, 04:34:05 PM »
Meltdown Phil for starters, I'll throw cRusty in there as well.


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21462 on: January 16, 2023, 04:38:13 PM »
I think it's reasonable to think that some if not many U.S. based CoronaBro's pined for a Zero Covid policy for these United States.  I feel fairly comfortable in saying that multiple CoronaBro'sgE would have fully supported such a folly.

After the vaccine was released?

Wait, so you think we should’ve done it until the vaccine was released?

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21463 on: January 16, 2023, 04:45:38 PM »
I think it's reasonable to think that some if not many U.S. based CoronaBro's pined for a Zero Covid policy for these United States.  I feel fairly comfortable in saying that multiple CoronaBro'sgE would have fully supported such a folly.

After the vaccine was released?

Wait, so you think we should’ve done it until the vaccine was released?

No.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21464 on: January 16, 2023, 06:51:25 PM »

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21465 on: January 16, 2023, 06:55:56 PM »
:lol:

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21466 on: January 16, 2023, 07:16:25 PM »
So weird


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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21467 on: January 16, 2023, 07:20:29 PM »


:lol:

So weird


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https://twitter.com/nychealthy/status/1613913362877882369

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The current dominant variant of COVID-19 in NYC is an omicron subvariant called XBB.1.5. This subvariant is the most transmissible form of COVID-19 that we know of to date. It may be more likely to infect people who have been vaccinated or previously had COVID-19 compared to prior variants. We do not know yet whether XBB.1.5 may cause more severe disease. Getting the COVID-19 vaccine — including the updated booster — is still the best way to protect yourself from hospitalization and death from COVID-19, including from these new variants.

https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-variants.page

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21468 on: January 16, 2023, 07:22:40 PM »
Sloppy wording by the source but a good example of the simplest explanation usually being the correct one.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21469 on: January 16, 2023, 07:28:32 PM »
That doesn’t change a thing relative to the concern that prior Covid/Vaccinated are more susceptible to infection with these variants.

Once your infected all bets are off and you’re just hoping at that point the vaccine does what they claim relative to your individual situation.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21470 on: January 16, 2023, 07:32:25 PM »
:lol:

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21471 on: January 16, 2023, 07:34:22 PM »
I really front ran the slow but steady full antivaxjones transformation. 2021. seems like just yesterday.

https://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=41959.msg2072258;topicseen#msg2072258

I think you can officially mod the name now.

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21472 on: January 16, 2023, 07:37:57 PM »
What percentage of the population do you think has not had the vaccine or a prior COVID infection?

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21473 on: January 16, 2023, 07:38:15 PM »
 :lol:
"a garden city man wondered in april if the theologians had not made a mistake in locating the garden of eden in asia rather than in the arkansas river valley."

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Re: CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread
« Reply #21474 on: January 16, 2023, 07:38:22 PM »
Total weirdo.

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