CoronaBro Meltdown/SARS-Covid-19 Spitballing Thread

[star seed 7]

Really enjoying dax's latest "you're all scared of DeSantis" delusion

[kstate4life]

Could really help Missourah . . . overrun with the Rona

True.  Florida/Desantis is the king of corona so they should get involved too.

California cases and hospitalization's are surging.  CDPH issued mandatory orders that less challenged hospitals have to take Covid transfers, orders not seen since last winter.

Gav's in the middle of a recall and #blueanon is terrified of DeSantis.  So we know exactly how this is going to go.

Who gives a crap.  Mandate it everywhere and let's get this over with.

If you're talking the vax, I agree.   But I wasn't talking about the vax, I was talking about mandatory orders from the state that CA hospitals have to take Covid transfers from other facilities.

Yes I was talking about the vax, just like the previous posts before yours.  It's honestly getting annoying how you guys argue which southern state is the worst, which race has a lower vax rate, etc... it doesn't matter.  The truth is every single state (except for maybe a couple on the upper east coast) has at least 40% unvaccinated.   Mandate it for everyone, distribute the leftovers to Africa and South America, and let's rough ridin' move on.

[sonofdaxjones]

Really enjoying dax's latest "you're all scared of DeSantis" delusion

Comparing the attacks against the DeSantis vs the defense of the Grandma Killers by #blueanon

Not hard to figure out

 

[steve dave]

hell yeah, eat crap anti-vaxsantis

https://twitter.com/PeterSchorschFL/status/1430192418926862340

[Phil Titola]

Could really help Missourah . . . overrun with the Rona

We agree. Kcmo would do it in a second but the state laws don't allow it. Cool.

[sys]

i mean, it's human medicine too.  it's the same stuff.  if you aren't mathematically illiterate, you aren't going to hurt anything but whatever parasites you may be harboring .

Wait.  wut?

ivermectin is approved for use in humans in the united states.

[sys]

They cannot adjust their premiums.  It is against the law.  As I stated before, you can only charge a differential premium based on age, zip code and tobacco status.

The only thing that can be done is employers offering wellness incentives.  There are limits to this, though, both in terms of the amount of total wellness incentives that can be offered and what wellness incentives can be offered.  There will most likely be litigation if employers do this.  I think the wellness incentives will be allowed, but they will still be subject to the caps that exist in law.

For some employers it will be difficult to do much with wellness incentives because a lot of employers already offer wellness incentives, so the amount that can be offered for vaccinations is limited.

thought i saw somewhere that some insurers were not paying for covid hospitalization costs for unvaccinated policyholders.

[sys]

hope they get sued to oblivion if that's the case, I don't know all of the precedent but seems like they're kind of backing out of their main function if there isn't a clear mandate of vaccination.

counterpoint:  eff 'em.

[catastrophe]

hope they get sued to oblivion if that's the case, I don't know all of the precedent but seems like they're kind of backing out of their main function if there isn't a clear mandate of vaccination.

Maybe there is already existing language about excessive hospitalization costs resulting from reckless behavior.

[steve dave]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1430288813151117317

[steve dave]

Sorry, missed it:

Hell yeah!

[star seed 7]

I'm fine with charging more money but hard no for denial of payment

[steve dave]

This stuff scares me

https://twitter.com/scottgottliebmd/status/1430497640777756673

[michigancat]

LOL

https://twitter.com/hannahbsampson/status/1430534321283141634

[MakeItRain]

 

[catastrophe]

LoL

[Justwin]

They cannot adjust their premiums.  It is against the law.  As I stated before, you can only charge a differential premium based on age, zip code and tobacco status.

Yeah… we need to fix that.

And the law will evetually adapt just like tobacco status.  Insurance companies don't pay the dummy tax very long.  Sooner rather than later the dummies have to pay it.

Yes, we should fix it as long as we also allow insurance companies to charge different premiums based on things like weight, diabetes status, likelihood to become pregnant, etc. and also allow them to fully charge the actuarially fair premium differential based on age.

I don't foresee the law changing.  I imagine it is pretty far down on Democrats' priorities and I doubt Republicans will support it.  Insurance companies don't pay the tax, policy holders do.  The "dummy" tax is already paid based on lots of medical conditions (see above) and it hasn't brought about any change to the ACA.

[steve dave]

LOL

https://twitter.com/hannahbsampson/status/1430534321283141634

Incredible

[Justwin]

They cannot adjust their premiums.  It is against the law.  As I stated before, you can only charge a differential premium based on age, zip code and tobacco status.

The only thing that can be done is employers offering wellness incentives.  There are limits to this, though, both in terms of the amount of total wellness incentives that can be offered and what wellness incentives can be offered.  There will most likely be litigation if employers do this.  I think the wellness incentives will be allowed, but they will still be subject to the caps that exist in law.

For some employers it will be difficult to do much with wellness incentives because a lot of employers already offer wellness incentives, so the amount that can be offered for vaccinations is limited.

thought i saw somewhere that some insurers were not paying for covid hospitalization costs for unvaccinated policyholders.

Health insurers are no long waiving cost-sharing (deductibles, copays, coinsurance) for COVID-19 treatments whereas before they were.  Now, patients are responsible for their cost-sharing portion of the cost of treatment for COVID-19.  I have seen anything that says cost sharing will be waived if you are vaccinated.  I have seen that this will mostly affect unvaccinated people due to their being the vast majority of COVID-19 hospitalizations.

https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/kff-most-insurers-phasing-out-cost-sharing-waivers-for-covid-19-treatments

[Dugout DickStone]

They cannot adjust their premiums.  It is against the law.  As I stated before, you can only charge a differential premium based on age, zip code and tobacco status.

Yeah… we need to fix that.

And the law will evetually adapt just like tobacco status.  Insurance companies don't pay the dummy tax very long.  Sooner rather than later the dummies have to pay it.

Yes, we should fix it as long as we also allow insurance companies to charge different premiums based on things like weight, diabetes status, likelihood to become pregnant, etc. and also allow them to fully charge the actuarially fair premium differential based on age.

I don't foresee the law changing.  I imagine it is pretty far down on Democrats' priorities and I doubt Republicans will support it.  Insurance companies don't pay the tax, policy holders do.  The "dummy" tax is already paid based on lots of medical conditions (see above) and it hasn't brought about any change to the ACA.

welp

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/25/business/delta-unvaccinated-insurance-cost-increase/index.html

[Phil Titola]

Hell yeah!

[steve dave]

Hell yeah!

Hell yeah!

[mocat]

LOL

https://twitter.com/hannahbsampson/status/1430534321283141634

hahaha

[wetwillie]

Best thing ITT by a wide margin, amaze

[Dugout DickStone]

If you think insurance companies will not find every way they can to impose the vaccine then....