Courtney Messingham is a proven loser

[nicname]

My boy Ricky Rahne is currently getting paid ~750k/yr as HC at ODU. He’s showing early success in his rebuild there.

Not sure we’d be able to give him the kind of raise he’d want tho. My be too big a fish.


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[MakeItRain]

Bruh, he's a first year fbs head coach he isn't going to be anyone's coordinator.

[MakeItRain]

A lot of P5 OCs got crap canned today.

If in fact Klieman is targeting Wells, we'll probably need to wait for the carousel to slow down to see if we can get him. Wells will almost certainly try to get a G5 job.

[wetwillie]

A lot of P5 OCs got crap canned today.

If in fact Klieman is targeting Wells, we'll probably need to wait for the carousel to slow down to see if we can get him. Wells will almost certainly try to get a G5 job.

Yea this is not ideal environment for the Wells to KSU contingent.

[MakeItRain]

A lot of P5 OCs got crap canned today.

If in fact Klieman is targeting Wells, we'll probably need to wait for the carousel to slow down to see if we can get him. Wells will almost certainly try to get a G5 job.

Yea this is not ideal environment for the Wells to KSU contingent.

I'm confused as to why Steve Addazio hasn't been fired yet, probably coming and there's going to be a lot of G5 openings.

[Katpappy]

I don't think a 4-10 record will get a new coach fired.  Also the team loves him, and he is a two time BCS champion.

[tdaver]

A lot of P5 OCs got crap canned today.

If in fact Klieman is targeting Wells, we'll probably need to wait for the carousel to slow down to see if we can get him. Wells will almost certainly try to get a G5 job.

Yea this is not ideal environment for the Wells to KSU contingent.

I'm confused as to why Steve Addazio hasn't been fired yet, probably coming and there's going to be a lot of G5 openings.

His buyout drops $2MM (from 5 to 3) on Thursday

[MakeItRain]

I don't think a 4-10 record will get a new coach fired.  Also the team loves him, and he is a two time BCS champion.

Are you talking about Addazio? LOL, everyone there hates him. He's been an abject disaster on the field and he got ejected from their game this weekend. A football coach, ejected. tdaver laid it out, he'll be gone on Thursday.

[DQ12]

I’d hire Anthony Tucker out of Utah State.  Been around the block a bit.  Has coordinated some pretty good offenses at UCF and Utah State.  Fairly similar conceptually to what we’ve been trying to do.  Certainly a guy we could get.

That would be my target if I was trying to replace Mess.

[michigancat]

I’d hire Anthony Tucker out of Utah State.  Been around the block a bit.  Has coordinated some pretty good offenses at UCF and Utah State.  Fairly similar conceptually to what we’ve been trying to do.  Certainly a guy we could get.

That would be my target if I was trying to replace Mess.

He'd only been co-OC for one year at UCF and the other co-OC followed Heupel to Tennessee.

Intriguing but I don't see it happening unless he's like co-OC with Klein (who probably wouldn't like that, either). It's definitely not a clear upgrade

[DQ12]

Well we’re either going to have to take a chance on someone kind of green or we’re going to get some guy who is proven to be mediocre, imo.

[DQ12]

Also I take it back, Utah State’s offense wasn’t very good.  I was looking at some outdated numbers. 

[michigancat]

Well we’re either going to have to take a chance on someone kind of green or we’re going to get some guy who is proven to be mediocre, imo.

I agree, which is why I like the idea of Scheelhaase (plus he adds recruiting cred, which might be more important!). But I think we can get someone with a little more G5 coordinator experience as well. (or maybe not).

[DQ12]

Well we’re either going to have to take a chance on someone kind of green or we’re going to get some guy who is proven to be mediocre, imo.

I agree, which is why I like the idea of Scheelhaase (plus he adds recruiting cred, which might be more important!). But I think we can get someone with a little more G5 coordinator experience as well. (or maybe not).

Yeah, the problem is that a lot of those G5 coordinators don't stay G5 coordinators for long if their offense is anything to write home about.

I'm all for Scheelhaase btw, I just think he'd be a tough one to nab, money-wise.

[Katpappy]

I don't think a 4-10 record will get a new coach fired.  Also the team loves him, and he is a two time BCS champion.

Are you talking about Addazio? LOL, everyone there hates him. He's been an abject disaster on the field and he got ejected from their game this weekend. A football coach, ejected. tdaver laid it out, he'll be gone on Thursday.

Here are a few quotes from his players.What They Are Saying:

"Coach Addazio is an outstanding coach and an incredible person. He helped shape my brother and I into the men we are today. I would not be where I am today without Coach Addazio. He brings out the best in everyone he interacts with. He loves his players and we love him."
- Atlanta Falcons 2019 1st Round Draft Selection and former BC Eagle offensive lineman Chris Lindstrom
 
"I am so happy for Colorado State University! The Rams got a great man and great football coach in Steve Addazio. I wouldn't be the man I am today without him! Not only did he help me become the football player I am today, he was also was a father figure to me and my brother, Maurkice, while away from our family at the University of Florida. He turned two young kids from Lakeland, Fla. into men. I am now a Colorado State fan!"
 - Former Florida offensive lineman and 1st round draft pick, current Los Angles Charger, Mike Pouncey
 
"When I think of football, I think of Steve Addazio. He is a great leader of men, and his knowledge of the game is like none other! Coach Addazio has always been another father figure to my brother and I. We love you coach, and good luck on your new journey!"
- Former Florida offensive lineman and 1st round draft pick, current Pittsburgh Steeler, Maurkice Pouncey

"Steve Addazio has all of the qualities you want in a head football coach. Coach Addazio and I have a long-standing relationship through coaching, including winning two national championships together at Florida, and I have seen first-hand how passionate he is about the game of football, the players he coaches, and the programs he leads. He is one of the nation's top recruiters and will represent Colorado State well. I am excited to see the Rams develop under his leadership."
- National Championship-winning head coach Urban Meyer

"Steve Addazio is a great recruiter, a better coach, an even better leader, and most importantly a better person. I am very excited for the Colorado State family and the future of Ram football."
– Former Boston College Athletic Director Brad Bates
 
"Steve Addazio is an outstanding coach, mentor, father and husband. He is passionate, a relentless recruiter and a creative football mind. Congratulations to Colorado State for hiring such a great coach and role model who will inspire students, alumni and fans."
– North Carolina Athletic Director Bubba Cunningham
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[michigancat]

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[ChiComCat]

I'm worried that co-coordinator with Klein has a lot less appeal than being the lone guy.  Additionally, Messingham catches all the crap for the offense but the fans give Klein a pass.  Those would be pretty big negatives to me if I'm a coordinator with other P5 interest.

[michigancat]

I'm worried that co-coordinator with Klein has a lot less appeal than being the lone guy.  Additionally, Messingham catches all the crap for the offense but the fans give Klein a pass.  Those would be pretty big negatives to me if I'm a coordinator with other P5 interest.

I know MiR disagrees that CK was a factor but IMO Skylar did not develop well over his six years. Obviously injuries hurt but still.

Also Klein is not co-OC any more.

[michigancat]

Well we’re either going to have to take a chance on someone kind of green or we’re going to get some guy who is proven to be mediocre, imo.

I agree, which is why I like the idea of Scheelhaase (plus he adds recruiting cred, which might be more important!). But I think we can get someone with a little more G5 coordinator experience as well. (or maybe not).

Yeah, the problem is that a lot of those G5 coordinators don't stay G5 coordinators for long if their offense is anything to write home about.

I'm all for Scheelhaase btw, I just think he'd be a tough one to nab, money-wise.

He makes less than Mess. And I assume we'll need a decent increase for whoever replaces Mess

[wetwillie]

What would you guys think about David Beaty on this offensive staff.

[michigancat]

What would you guys think about David Beaty on this offensive staff.

I like it quite a bit because I think he's a decent recruiter

[Shooter Jones]

Graham Harrell isn't staying at USC w/ Lincoln. Pretty decent chance he gets a G5 head gig. If not, pay him whatever it takes to come on for a year

[420seriouscat69]

Are there rumors out there that Mess is done or are we all assuming? Seeing rando vague tweets about it.

[Cire]

zero rumors that he is done

[wetwillie]

What would you guys think about David Beaty on this offensive staff.

I like it quite a bit because I think he's a decent recruiter

My wetwillie trifecta would be Wells, Beaty, Held to replace Mess, Klein, and Ray.