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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #100 on: September 18, 2019, 10:52:37 AM »
I'll let you interpret these stats however you like...


That does look good until you remember that the 2019 numbers are against 2/3 scrubs and not like 1/3 scrubs like the final season numbers will be.

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #101 on: September 18, 2019, 10:52:49 AM »
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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2019, 01:51:58 AM »
I personally don't see anything wrong with someone taking issue with Snyder's bad person approach to player treatment/being an bad person in 2018 but accepting it in 1998. Times change.

That's fine, do what you want but if you do that be intellectually honest enough to say it's about the winning, because it sure as hell isn't about a change in Bill. If anything all signs pointed to him softening more at the end.

of course that's part of it, but it's not ALL there is and it's not exactly black and white. First of all, what we accept as a society today is a lot different than what we accepted in 1991. Also, an approach to discipline that worked for the shittiest program in history in 1990 could make you far less likely to win today with a program that's had a pretty good 20 year run.

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Re: Did LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #103 on: September 19, 2019, 02:00:16 AM »
Dax literally thinks every single person in the world has a secret nefarious agenda to screw him. Yes it's insane, but it also provides some great bbs material.

 :lol:  you're such a little weirdo and you and Dug need to quit taking The Pit outside of The Pit.

I don't take the pit outside of the pit.  I think I agree with you in literally every non pit thread there is.  I agree with your Snyder take.  I think it also bears mentioning that KSU had to give Bill $3mm to go quietly and not round up his donors to try and force shawn in.

No, that didn't need to be done, not at all, especially if Gene was going to hire Klieman. Gene did that because it was the easiest way, but the only thing he was required to do is what was contractually obligated. He chose not to play hardball, just like Bill chose to ask for all of that money. He used the leverage he earned, good for him for being so good at his job for so long.

A lot of this sounds like rich shaming.

Are you really good at your job if your employer is forcing you to leave from poor performance?

A person's value is literally what someone is willing to pay them.

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2019, 12:02:31 PM »
Holy crap those stats are meaningless right now.

YES!*

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #105 on: September 19, 2019, 04:33:51 PM »
Holy crap those stats are meaningless right now.

YES!*

*But I don't care.

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2020, 08:52:57 PM »
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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2020, 09:35:49 PM »
oof


Did you look at the rest of the pdf? Also had the highest 2 year increase from 26%.
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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #108 on: June 08, 2020, 10:27:01 PM »
Yes, it makes that significantly worse because that's the number after the increase. In 2016 the graduation percentage was 26%, that appears to be the lowest percentage by any school and it wasn't particularly close.

That's shameful.

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #109 on: June 09, 2020, 11:02:00 AM »
The university as a whole isn't very good at graduating students.

https://www.scholarships.com/colleges/kansas-state-university/graduation-rates/

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #110 on: June 09, 2020, 11:12:57 AM »
Glad I could help boost those 6 year numbers :gocho:


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Re: Did LHC LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #112 on: June 10, 2020, 06:08:40 AM »
Well the K-State also accepts like 95% of all applicants....so if you have a pulse you're in. This means that there are quite a bit of students not well prepared for college that were accepted. The 4 year degree in 4 years is also becoming a myth as more (including other Universities) are seeing students graduate in 4.5 to 5 years instead of 4.

The university as a whole isn't very good at graduating students.

https://www.scholarships.com/colleges/kansas-state-university/graduation-rates/

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #113 on: June 10, 2020, 08:20:27 AM »
The black athlete numbers were 6 year graduation rates, which are lower than the student body numbers. I think the list as a whole would be better if the athlete rates were ranked as a comparison to student body rates, though.

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #114 on: June 12, 2020, 07:24:10 AM »
Athlete numbers can be skewed though, if say, 3/4 if the basketball team transfers out
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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #115 on: June 12, 2020, 09:18:18 AM »
Athlete numbers can be skewed though, if say, 3/4 if the basketball team transfers out

True, but your coach would have to be incompetent for that to ever happen.

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #116 on: June 12, 2020, 11:08:59 PM »
Athlete numbers can be skewed though, if say, 3/4 if the basketball team transfers out

That's part of the reason why the numbers are bad and part of the problem. Why did the program lose so many black football players?

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Re: Did LHC LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #117 on: September 12, 2020, 02:46:20 PM »
Completely suck, FFS

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Re: Did LHC Bill Snyder Actually Completely Suck?
« Reply #118 on: September 12, 2020, 02:48:28 PM »
Fire Klieman
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