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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1350 on: September 20, 2023, 03:52:24 PM »
Spartan Fans is saying our guy is their top candidate

If I was them I'd go after Lightpole.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1351 on: September 20, 2023, 04:00:45 PM »
Spartan Fans is saying our guy is their top candidate

If I was them I'd go after Lightpole.

definitely.  spartans are morons

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1352 on: September 20, 2023, 10:04:45 PM »
They aren't getting either so it's whatever. Average Big 10 programs thinking that Big 12 coaches are going to go to their schools only for them to hire an assistant or a P5 head coach is a tale as old as time. Add to that, the MSU job is toxic right now, they aren't getting anybody good.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1353 on: September 20, 2023, 10:09:16 PM »
Is tay tay prepared to not hire Collin?
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1354 on: September 20, 2023, 10:27:47 PM »
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1355 on: September 21, 2023, 10:12:20 AM »
They aren't getting either so it's whatever. Average Big 10 programs thinking that Big 12 coaches are going to go to their schools only for them to hire an assistant or a P5 head coach is a tale as old as time. Add to that, the MSU job is toxic right now, they aren't getting anybody good.

Tucker came from Colorado! Just a year, but still. They aren't exactly Purdue.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1356 on: September 21, 2023, 11:06:03 AM »
They aren't getting either so it's whatever. Average Big 10 programs thinking that Big 12 coaches are going to go to their schools only for them to hire an assistant or a P5 head coach is a tale as old as time. Add to that, the MSU job is toxic right now, they aren't getting anybody good.

Tucker came from Colorado! Just a year, but still. They aren't exactly Purdue.

Yeah, Colorado was a G5 program and their athletic department was dead broke. You think Michigan State or any other non West Coast based Big 10 program not named Ohio State or Michigan would even get an interview with Deion today?

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1357 on: September 21, 2023, 12:52:34 PM »
They aren't getting either so it's whatever. Average Big 10 programs thinking that Big 12 coaches are going to go to their schools only for them to hire an assistant or a P5 head coach is a tale as old as time. Add to that, the MSU job is toxic right now, they aren't getting anybody good.

Tucker came from Colorado! Just a year, but still. They aren't exactly Purdue.

Yeah, Colorado was a G5 program and their athletic department was dead broke. You think Michigan State or any other non West Coast based Big 10 program not named Ohio State or Michigan would even get an interview with Deion today?

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1358 on: October 06, 2023, 08:48:07 PM »
Thanks for last year, but this just isn't working out.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1359 on: October 06, 2023, 08:58:34 PM »
Last year was his ceiling

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1360 on: October 06, 2023, 10:34:06 PM »
I just want to throw this out there. Anyone here get the feeling that Kleinman is throwing games? I have been watching college football since 1984 and I have never seen a coach handicap a team in games like Kleinman has. Mizzu and this game tonight at OSU and previous losses that were done by bonehead coaching. Johnson is clearly better than Howard and Ward is clearly better than Giddens. As bad as the Cats looked they are clearly better than OSU and all they had to do was run the ball. Going for 2 when it was clear they didn't need it at all??? The botching of the Mizzu game? Keeping Howard in when he was clearly hurt??? Is Vegas going to break his kneecaps if he wins???? Something stinks!!!!! Is Kleinman being paid to Kill K-State??? This may just be a game but the corruption of this country is out of control. With money going to players is did Howard take a dive??? Is Vegas fixing everything???

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1361 on: October 06, 2023, 10:34:21 PM »
Lol

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1362 on: October 06, 2023, 10:42:45 PM »
I just want to throw this out there. Anyone here get the feeling that Kleinman is throwing games? I have been watching college football since 1984 and I have never seen a coach handicap a team in games like Kleinman has. Mizzu and this game tonight at OSU and previous losses that were done by bonehead coaching. Johnson is clearly better than Howard and Ward is clearly better than Giddens. As bad as the Cats looked they are clearly better than OSU and all they had to do was run the ball. Going for 2 when it was clear they didn't need it at all??? The botching of the Mizzu game? Keeping Howard in when he was clearly hurt??? Is Vegas going to break his kneecaps if he wins???? Something stinks!!!!! Is Kleinman being paid to Kill K-State??? This may just be a game but the corruption of this country is out of control. With money going to players is did Howard take a dive??? Is Vegas fixing everything???
I understand your frustration with the coaching decisions and game outcomes, but making accusations of coaches throwing games or suggesting that there's a conspiracy involving Vegas is a serious matter. It's important to remember that sports outcomes can be unpredictable, and coaches make decisions based on their judgment and the information they have at the time.

If you have concerns about the coaching or the integrity of the games, it's best to voice those concerns through appropriate channels, such as discussions with fellow fans, sports analysts, or your school's athletic department. Jumping to conclusions about corruption without evidence can be damaging and unfair to the individuals involved.

Remember that sports can be emotional, and sometimes things don't go as expected, but it's essential to approach such matters with a rational and evidence-based perspective.
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1363 on: October 06, 2023, 10:54:36 PM »
I just want to throw this out there. Anyone here get the feeling that Kleinman is throwing games? I have been watching college football since 1984 and I have never seen a coach handicap a team in games like Kleinman has. Mizzu and this game tonight at OSU and previous losses that were done by bonehead coaching. Johnson is clearly better than Howard and Ward is clearly better than Giddens. As bad as the Cats looked they are clearly better than OSU and all they had to do was run the ball. Going for 2 when it was clear they didn't need it at all??? The botching of the Mizzu game? Keeping Howard in when he was clearly hurt??? Is Vegas going to break his kneecaps if he wins???? Something stinks!!!!! Is Kleinman being paid to Kill K-State??? This may just be a game but the corruption of this country is out of control. With money going to players is did Howard take a dive??? Is Vegas fixing everything???
I understand your frustration with the coaching decisions and game outcomes, but making accusations of coaches throwing games or suggesting that there's a conspiracy involving Vegas is a serious matter. It's important to remember that sports outcomes can be unpredictable, and coaches make decisions based on their judgment and the information they have at the time.

If you have concerns about the coaching or the integrity of the games, it's best to voice those concerns through appropriate channels, such as discussions with fellow fans, sports analysts, or your school's athletic department. Jumping to conclusions about corruption without evidence can be damaging and unfair to the individuals involved.

Remember that sports can be emotional, and sometimes things don't go as expected, but it's essential to approach such matters with a rational and evidence-based perspective.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1364 on: October 06, 2023, 11:16:13 PM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1365 on: October 06, 2023, 11:18:41 PM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

It's a different time, reflect at the end of the season

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1366 on: October 06, 2023, 11:20:32 PM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

It's a different time, reflect at the end of the season
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1367 on: October 06, 2023, 11:39:11 PM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

It's a different time, reflect at the end of the season
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1368 on: October 06, 2023, 11:51:30 PM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

Snyder 2.0? You're misremembering the crap out of that. Snyder 2.0 was good for two seasons. This team is better that any pre or post Klein QB'd team that Snyder 2.0 had. crap, for that matter Snyder 1.0 had entire WTF seasons, '01 and '04 immediately come to mind.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1369 on: October 07, 2023, 12:08:21 AM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

Snyder 2.0? You're misremembering the crap out of that. Snyder 2.0 was good for two seasons. This team is better that any pre or post Klein QB'd team that Snyder 2.0 had. crap, for that matter Snyder 1.0 had entire WTF seasons, '01 and '04 immediately come to mind.

I think its debatable on both fronts...

That '01 team had a raw Roberson as QB and weak leadership (Lockett, Leber, etc) and the 04 team had Bazooka Joe like issues at QB.

I'm referencing more talent vs. output - Snyder 1.0 mostly outperformed and I'd argue Snyder 2.0 did as well.

Is this Klieman team less talented than any of Synder 2.0 teams (aside from maybe 2011 and 2012)?

I don't think so, but it's a fair question.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1370 on: October 07, 2023, 06:27:04 AM »
This team isn't better than 2014 or 2016.
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1371 on: October 07, 2023, 07:47:57 AM »
Small-slow-not very athletic

Chris Kleiman taking a team into Stillwater, OK and that team looking like dog poop is batting 1000


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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1372 on: October 07, 2023, 08:53:33 AM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

Snyder 2.0? You're misremembering the crap out of that. Snyder 2.0 was good for two seasons. This team is better that any pre or post Klein QB'd team that Snyder 2.0 had. crap, for that matter Snyder 1.0 had entire WTF seasons, '01 and '04 immediately come to mind.
The game last night actually reminded me of Baylor in 2012. Playing a conference opponent in a night road game who really shouldn’t have had a shot.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1373 on: October 07, 2023, 10:48:43 AM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

Snyder 2.0? You're misremembering the crap out of that. Snyder 2.0 was good for two seasons. This team is better that any pre or post Klein QB'd team that Snyder 2.0 had. crap, for that matter Snyder 1.0 had entire WTF seasons, '01 and '04 immediately come to mind.
The game last night actually reminded me of Baylor in 2012. Playing a conference opponent in a night road game who really shouldn’t have had a shot.

Except 2012 Baylor was kind of on the upswing when we played them (I think they won maybe 3 straight at that point) and then they continued that upward trajectory for the next 2 seasons or wherever briles got the shitcanning he so richly deserved. I don’t think this okie lite team is going anywhere

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #1374 on: October 07, 2023, 12:11:10 PM »
Back to reality... I do find it interesting that Klieman probably has about the same WTF losses in 5 years that Synder had in all of Synder 1.0 or 2.0. Klieman obviously also has the highs of beating teams like OU, but still.

There's a fair bit of comfort in knowing you're going to beat the teams you should and lose to the teams you should. And Klieman is taking a massive dump all over that concept.

Is that better/worse?

Snyder 2.0? You're misremembering the crap out of that. Snyder 2.0 was good for two seasons. This team is better that any pre or post Klein QB'd team that Snyder 2.0 had. crap, for that matter Snyder 1.0 had entire WTF seasons, '01 and '04 immediately come to mind.

2011, 2012, 2014, 2016 are all better than 2023 team
2013, 2017 are the same as this team