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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #200 on: December 02, 2020, 02:39:58 PM »
on 10/28/07 the cats were 5-3 with a win over no. 7 texas. prince was 12-9 overall and cats were on track to make a bowl game in both of prince's first two years.

it's amazing how quickly things went to crap in the next calendar year, so much that absolutely no one disagreed with firing him.
still have a ron prince signed picture of everyone storming the field after that game.  :emawkid:

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #201 on: December 02, 2020, 02:41:42 PM »
Things were so great that I joined ksufans right around that time and my screen name was "Prince's Jester". I figured it was a great long term name because ole RP would be kicking butt at KSU for years. The wheels came off pretty quick.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #202 on: December 02, 2020, 03:35:42 PM »
The staff is just fine.

yep. they aren't worldbeaters but they aren't going to tank the program and they deserve to build a roster based on what they've done to date with the dogshit roster Snyder left them.

Agree, but I also thought Prince needed a full 4 years...

not comparing CK to RP, just in general it's not fair to fire CFB coaches after less than 4

for sure - RP's cultural/abuse issues aside, i think he was pretty much told he needed to win in year three which led to that ridiculous class of nothing but juco's and really hurt the program for the long term.

Prince might have done it anyway but I agree outside of abuse/massive coaching turnover every CFB coach deserves 4 years minimum.

And he got the win now directive because of the things that swirled around him, most of it his own doing, but some of the scrutiny was unfair.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #203 on: December 02, 2020, 07:59:13 PM »
What was the point of the secret buyout thing that Krause did???


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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #204 on: December 02, 2020, 08:49:07 PM »
What was the point of the secret buyout thing that Krause did???


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It was a secret contract extension, and the reason was that everyone hated Ron's guts and would have been mad at Krause if he made it public.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #205 on: December 05, 2020, 02:20:08 PM »
if texas fires their dude, we should fire kleesman and hire him, right?
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #206 on: December 05, 2020, 02:23:09 PM »
if texas fires their dude, we should fire kleesman and hire him, right?

We would never, but I like the idea.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #207 on: December 05, 2020, 02:27:49 PM »
Could Herman recruit better to K-State than Klieman?

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #208 on: December 05, 2020, 02:34:56 PM »
Could Herman recruit better to K-State than Klieman?

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« Reply #209 on: December 05, 2020, 02:38:45 PM »
Could Herman recruit better to K-State than Klieman?

of course he could, what kind of a question is that?
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« Reply #210 on: December 05, 2020, 02:42:21 PM »
Could Herman recruit better to K-State than Klieman?

of course he could, what kind of a question is that?

They want to fire him because he can't sign Texas talent. Did you miss the graphic that shows he has one commit out of the top 20 players in Texas right now?

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« Reply #211 on: December 05, 2020, 02:48:32 PM »
It was funny when the announcers talked up Herman's top ten classes. That should be like bare minimum for Texas.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #212 on: December 05, 2020, 02:49:45 PM »
They want to fire him because he can't sign Texas talent. Did you miss the graphic that shows he has one commit out of the top 20 players in Texas right now?

i don't see how that is remotely relevant.
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #213 on: December 05, 2020, 02:51:18 PM »
I like what he did at Houston!  Not sure if all those players were his recruits tho.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #214 on: December 05, 2020, 02:56:11 PM »
They want to fire him because he can't sign Texas talent. Did you miss the graphic that shows he has one commit out of the top 20 players in Texas right now?

i don't see how that is remotely relevant.

You don't think the fact that he is missing on in state talent when discussing how well he recruits? Okay, cool.

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« Reply #215 on: December 05, 2020, 03:11:52 PM »
You don't think the fact that he is missing on in state talent when discussing how well he recruits? Okay, cool.

they scored 69 points today.
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #216 on: December 05, 2020, 03:12:20 PM »
They want to fire him because he can't sign Texas talent. Did you miss the graphic that shows he has one commit out of the top 20 players in Texas right now?

i don't see how that is remotely relevant.

You don't think the fact that he is missing on in state talent when discussing how well he recruits? Okay, cool.

He’s recruited Texas really well in his tenure, surely you can’t be serious?
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #217 on: December 05, 2020, 03:15:20 PM »
fun little fact - Messingham was on the same staff as Herman at Iowa State!

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #218 on: December 05, 2020, 03:21:52 PM »
They want to fire him because he can't sign Texas talent. Did you miss the graphic that shows he has one commit out of the top 20 players in Texas right now?

i don't see how that is remotely relevant.

You don't think the fact that he is missing on in state talent when discussing how well he recruits? Okay, cool.

He’s recruited Texas really well in his tenure, surely you can’t be serious?

He's gotten fewer and fewer top instate players each year he's been there. He got 3 last year 1 this year. Again, fox showed the graphic, I didn't. I haven't said anything remotely close to controversial.

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« Reply #219 on: December 05, 2020, 03:25:26 PM »
You don't think the fact that he is missing on in state talent when discussing how well he recruits? Okay, cool.

they scored 69 points today.

Go tell that to orange bloods, I'm sure they're super happy about it. I'm sure they'll also ignore the fact their defense gave up 31 points in three quarters to checks notes, Will Howard.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #220 on: December 05, 2020, 03:28:05 PM »
They want to fire him because he can't sign Texas talent. Did you miss the graphic that shows he has one commit out of the top 20 players in Texas right now?

i don't see how that is remotely relevant.

You don't think the fact that he is missing on in state talent when discussing how well he recruits? Okay, cool.

He’s recruited Texas really well in his tenure, surely you can’t be serious?

He's gotten fewer and fewer top instate players each year he's been there. He got 3 last year 1 this year. Again, fox showed the graphic, I didn't. I haven't said anything remotely close to controversial.
They want to fire him because he can't sign Texas talent. Did you miss the graphic that shows he has one commit out of the top 20 players in Texas right now?

i don't see how that is remotely relevant.

You don't think the fact that he is missing on in state talent when discussing how well he recruits? Okay, cool.

He’s recruited Texas really well in his tenure, surely you can’t be serious?

He's gotten fewer and fewer top instate players each year he's been there. He got 3 last year 1 this year. Again, fox showed the graphic, I didn't. I haven't said anything remotely close to controversial.

He had two decommit this year late because it’s become clear they are going to fire him...
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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #221 on: December 05, 2020, 03:32:29 PM »
And you would give him a pass for that? If he didn't decrease the number of top in state recruits each season he's been there, he probably wouldn't be getting fired.

I heard a media guy talk about how urban might not be interested because with all the guys getting drafted, UT is going to need a rebuild. They apparently don't have an heir apparent at QB. That seems to be unacceptable at a program like Texas.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #222 on: December 05, 2020, 03:33:45 PM »
Maybe we can get Gus? I suppose he's safe, you never know with those crazy Auburn fans.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #223 on: December 05, 2020, 03:35:11 PM »
Maybe we can get Gus? I suppose he's safe, you never know with those crazy Auburn fans.

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Re: Fire Chris Klieman
« Reply #224 on: December 05, 2020, 03:37:09 PM »
Maybe we can get Gus? I suppose he's safe, you never know with those crazy Auburn fans.

take another swing at BV
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