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Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« on: April 26, 2019, 05:56:12 PM »
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/kansas-supreme-court-abortion-rights-case-roe-wade.html

I bet Wichita turns in to Northern Ireland during the Troubles any second.


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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2019, 06:09:53 PM »
Activist judges  :angry:
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 08:51:39 AM »
Constitutional amendment time, baby.


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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2019, 10:49:51 AM »
Constitutional amendment time, baby.
What would said amendment say?

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2019, 03:10:15 PM »
Constitutional amendment time, baby.
What would said amendment say?
Without giving this much thought, I think an amendment could be crafted that states that the definition of "inalienable rights" does not include an unfettered right to abortion.

There may be neater or better ways for the legislature to do it.


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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2019, 01:26:39 PM »
These liberal judges that we have had for at least a decade are going to find that abortion is a right guaranteed by the Kansas constitution now, though. :angry:

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2019, 12:44:30 PM »
more like Rage Against the McKeestradamus

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2022, 04:37:20 PM »
I’ve been seeing tons of signs in support of the KS abortion amendment when I’ve been out and about lately. Saw a sign for a group called Abortion Is Murder - Kansas in front of a church today. They are denouncing the amendment because it doesn’t explicitly outlaw abortion and provide criminal penalties to anyone involved (merely paves the way for reactionaries in the ksleg to write the most draconian laws possible). This group is explicitly promoting theocracy:

https://aimks.org/

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2022, 04:45:53 PM »
Most of the propaganda that I've come across regarding the amendment is trying to downplay it. Says things like the amendment doesn't actually ban abortion so more people will vote for it. As if banning abortion wouldn't be the very first thing the legislature does after it passes.

It's kind of ridiculous that anyone is wasting money on it, anyway. It's already on a primary ballot so it's going to easily pass. It probably wouldn't have much trouble passing on a general election ballot.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2022, 07:33:55 PM »
I’ve been seeing tons of signs in support of the KS abortion amendment when I’ve been out and about lately. Saw a sign for a group called Abortion Is Murder - Kansas in front of a church today. They are denouncing the amendment because it doesn’t explicitly outlaw abortion and provide criminal penalties to anyone involved (merely paves the way for reactionaries in the ksleg to write the most draconian laws possible). This group is explicitly promoting theocracy:

https://aimks.org/

other anti-abortion groups are like "who wants to be the one to tell them"

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2022, 04:05:01 PM »
https://fox4kc.com/politics/your-local-election-headquarters/voter-registration-up-more-than-1000-in-kansas-since-overturn-of-roe-v-wade/

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“For Kansas and Missouri registrations, comparing Friday, June 17 to Friday, June 24, we saw a 1,038% increase in Kansas and a 627% increase in Missouri,” Nick Morrow, director of communications for Vote.org, said in an email Monday.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2022, 04:26:43 PM »
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2022, 10:40:16 PM »
It may very well pass but I also think it's going to be a lot, lot closer than anyone will think
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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2022, 07:27:21 AM »
Definitely way more "vote no" signs where I live, but my congressional district is represented by a female, native american, homosexual.

I am a "vote no" supporter, and hope that "no" wins, but what's to stop the right wing from putting this up for vote on every election going forward if they don't win this one? 

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2022, 08:32:01 AM »
I still expect "yes" to win pretty convincingly, but I really hope that "no" wins.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2022, 09:21:36 AM »
we live in a disheartening time.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2022, 11:25:58 AM »
Definitely way more "vote no" signs where I live, but my congressional district is represented by a female, native american, homosexual.

I am a "vote no" supporter, and hope that "no" wins, but what's to stop the right wing from putting this up for vote on every election going forward if they don't win this one?

I would expect it to be put on every single ballot until the end of time until "yes" wins.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2022, 11:29:07 AM »
Definitely way more "vote no" signs where I live, but my congressional district is represented by a female, native american, homosexual.

I am a "vote no" supporter, and hope that "no" wins, but what's to stop the right wing from putting this up for vote on every election going forward if they don't win this one?

I would expect it to be put on every single ballot until the end of time until "yes" wins.

I don't think 2/3 of the state legislature will be able to keep putting a losing measure on the ballot and still hold onto their seats.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2022, 11:36:14 AM »
I have a shred of hope that this amendment fails but not more than a shred.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2022, 12:41:17 PM »
Everyone needs to get the word out to vote "NO". I myself have taken to Facebook for the first time in 6+ years, and I don't even live in Kansas.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2022, 01:11:24 PM »
I've always told myself that Kansas is mostly the way that it is politically because of all of the single issue abortion voters. It would be amazing to me to see more than 50% of a general population vote go pro-choice.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2022, 01:33:51 PM »
Also, the pro-life commercials come across as very strange to me. Talking about how the amendment doesn't actually ban abortion but allows our elected officials to place the common sense barriers to abortion that are already in place. I think they'd do better leaning in and claiming that this amendment will allow congress to ban all abortions in 2023.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2022, 01:35:35 PM »
Also, the pro-life commercials come across as very strange to me. Talking about how the amendment doesn't actually ban abortion but allows our elected officials to place the common sense barriers to abortion that are already in place. I think they'd do better leaning in and claiming that this amendment will allow congress to ban all abortions in 2023.

I'm pretty confident you are not their target audience.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2022, 01:50:10 PM »
Also, the pro-life commercials come across as very strange to me. Talking about how the amendment doesn't actually ban abortion but allows our elected officials to place the common sense barriers to abortion that are already in place. I think they'd do better leaning in and claiming that this amendment will allow congress to ban all abortions in 2023.

I'm pretty confident you are not their target audience.

I'm not, but I'm also pretty sure that their target audience wants more restrictions on abortion than we currently have. It's weird that they claim to not want that.

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Re: Kansas- more liberal abortion laws than New York
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2022, 04:44:17 PM »
Also, the pro-life commercials come across as very strange to me. Talking about how the amendment doesn't actually ban abortion but allows our elected officials to place the common sense barriers to abortion that are already in place. I think they'd do better leaning in and claiming that this amendment will allow congress to ban all abortions in 2023.

I'm pretty confident you are not their target audience.

I'm not, but I'm also pretty sure that their target audience wants more restrictions on abortion than we currently have. It's weird that they claim to not want that.

It is not "weird" it is just that they are obviously lying.