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« Reply #2925 on: October 28, 2013, 07:33:18 PM »
Dub, watch Cabin in the Woods.  YOU ARE WELCOME, FRIEND!

Hah, saw it.  They did a great job using trailers to play people, but pretty solid flick.   Don't think I'd consider that the standard horror flick though.  There are a few that go outside the general realm of horror movies, and even fewer that do it well.

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« Reply #2926 on: October 28, 2013, 07:37:28 PM »
cabin in the woods was great because it made fun of horror movies, which are bad movies.
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« Reply #2927 on: October 28, 2013, 07:42:52 PM »
Thinking about watching The Conjuring tonight.  Got good reviews, does it live up to them?

How was it? Probably going to catch it tonight.

It was bad.  The backstory is half-assed nonsense.

Well, since I don't really value your opinion I'm going to watch anyways. But if it sucks you can say "I told you so".

Hmmm, seems a bit fuckface-y, but it happens.  Maybe Dub will get back to you.

I enjoyed it, combines a lot of horror subgenres.  Didn't realize the dude from Office Space was in it though, so had to get over that.

Please elaborate.  Also, how did the main ghost's backstory grab you?  Compelling?  Or more like incredibly simplistic and nonsensical?  Also, also, did you find the depicted age of the ghost strange at all given the backstory?  Triple also, did the small number and random selection of prior victims seem inconsistent given the sizeable time frame and alleged motivations of said main ghost? 

Don't get me wrong the scares were good, but man that backstory.  So generic and unimaginative.  Really eliminated the possibility of any deeper psycholigical disturbing of the viewer from the film.  Cheap really.



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My point about the combined subgenres (might be wrong wording) was that they used a lot of typical horror storylines but had an interesting way of combining them (Exorcism/church/possession, little ghost kids that started with the ring, haunted house, clairvoyants, true story premise with old footage, etc.)  Not saying it added or subtracted from the film, I just thought it was an interesting take on familiar plot lines.

That being said, I'm not sure why your so bent on the ghost's story.  It's not a psychological thriller, it's a horror movie.  It seemed like the backstory set up the story they were wanting to tell.   Woman back in the day sacrifices her kid to the devil after getting in dark practices and then eventually kills herself and it damned to curse the land she owned. 

Small number of murders? It showed that they found a bunch of neighbors had died on the same land that had been split up in previous years and told the story of the previous mother who killed her child in the house.

The ghosts age?  I'm not sure what the hell your talking about, it's a rough ridin' ghost.


If your really looking for plot line holes in a horror movie, I suggest you stop watching horror movies.

First, her backstory.  She marries a farmer and he builds them a house on his land.  She gets knocked up and in order to be a better witch, she sacrifices her baby.  He catches her doing it.  I'm fine with all of this so far.  Here's where it goes off the rails into cliched nonsense--->

She runs away from him and to the nearest tree, apparently grabbing a rough ridin' rope along the way, then climbs it and rough ridin' hangs herself.  But before doing so, she specifically curses her land and anyone who tries to take it in the future.  They actually said that btw, take it from her.  Setting aside why the eff she wouldn't have just offed the husband being such a hardcore Satanist witch and all, why the eff would she have such an attachment to the goddamned land?  It's the farmer's rough ridin' property and he built the rough ridin' house.  Now suddenly it's rough ridin' sacred to the suicidal witch.  Lazy bullshit writing. 

You want a good rough ridin' backstory have the husband catch her and then he and the townsfolk do some really sick retributive pseudo-religious torture-murder action on her during which she starts throwing out some curses with real juice behind them.  Beat her, burn her, starve, mutilate, rape, crucifiy, whatever just give her some more ammunition to hate blindly.  It's isn't at all difficult.  Yet they gave you random baby muder, impromptu tree and rope self-hanging and then a rough ridin' land curse.  Absolute crap, but you're rough ridin' thanking them for shoving it in your face and asking for seconds.

Next, past victims.  She had a fat mom kill her son.  Fine, makes sense.  Then forces a maid to commit suicide.  WTF?  Not a goddamned land owner and not a rough ridin' mother forced to kill her child.  Nonsense.  What about the maid's employers, you know the rough ridin' land takers she rough ridin' cursed?  Ope, nothing.  They're rough ridin' fine because this is rough ridin' crap writing.  And no, dumbfuck, there weren't a bunch of neighbors, there were two rough ridin' kids and a rough ridin' maid.

Last, "The ghosts age?  I'm not sure what the hell your talking about, it's a rough ridin' ghost."  Yes, indeed.  She rough ridin' killed herself shortly after giving birth for the first time, yet she's this hagard old rough ridin' lady ghost.  What the eff did she age after she died?  Of course not, it's a rough ridin' ghost.  All the other ghosts were the same rough ridin' age that they died.  The rough ridin' kid ghost wasn't a rough ridin' adult now.  She wasn't a bitter old crone witch, she was a young mother witch.  Make her monsterous and gross?  rough ridin' sure.  An old goddamned lady?  Hackneyed bullshit and you're just slurping it right up.  Slurp, slurp, slurp says dumbfuck Dub can't get enough shitty writing. 

Oh, but it's a horror movie!  Set your brain to dumbfuck setting then folks.  Can't expect any imaginative writing in a goddamned work of ficition.  Can't criticize this genre.  Above rough ridin' reproach.  It's people like you that encourage this crap.  A rough ridin' idiot who wanted to scream a little.  You can have both quality writing and scares.  They aren't rough ridin' mutually exclusive.  We can have it all Dub.  #RealmOfReality
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« Reply #2928 on: October 28, 2013, 07:43:51 PM »
cabin in the woods was great because it made fun of horror movies, which are bad movies.

Do you accept that there could be a well-written horror movie?  They don't have to be crap right?  C'mon seven. 
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« Reply #2929 on: October 28, 2013, 07:45:39 PM »
bread, 13 Ghosts is tops though, right?

Yes.  The story is far, far better than this tripe. 
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« Reply #2930 on: October 28, 2013, 07:49:07 PM »
Watching The Conjuring right now guys.  I like it so far.

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Pay attention to the main ghost's backstory and then discuss here please. :Ugh:

First off, let me say I'm not hopping on the "be a dick to Mr. Bread" bandwagon because it made me really sad to see when that happens. But I'm going to have to say that for the horror genre, I kind of like when you don't know the villain's intent. It adds mystery and the more that's left up to the imagination the better I think it is. I just watched Paranormal Activity 3 and I thought the best part about it was you never see the main antagonist or really know what's going on. However, I have not seen The Conjuring so maybe Mr. Bread and I agree on this and there is just a glaring overlook on that movie's part.

They actually provide a backstory and motivation for the ghost, but it is very generic and really nonsense if you take the time to think about it.  They would have been better off not bothering.

Aren't most horror movies generic?  It's kind of hard to have a new spin on horror now-a-days.

Why is anything good Dub?  Why?  It's hard to make things good, let's just accept shitty things across the board.  What a dumbfuck attitude. 
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« Reply #2931 on: October 28, 2013, 07:49:34 PM »
cabin in the woods was great because it made fun of horror movies, which are bad movies.

Do you accept that there could be a well-written horror movie?  They don't have to be crap right?  C'mon seven.

yes, i accept that absolutely.  we are both fighting for the same thing here!   :cheers:

the list of well-written horror movies is very short.
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« Reply #2932 on: October 28, 2013, 07:56:54 PM »
Watching The Conjuring right now guys.  I like it so far.

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Pay attention to the main ghost's backstory and then discuss here please. :Ugh:

First off, let me say I'm not hopping on the "be a dick to Mr. Bread" bandwagon because it made me really sad to see when that happens. But I'm going to have to say that for the horror genre, I kind of like when you don't know the villain's intent. It adds mystery and the more that's left up to the imagination the better I think it is. I just watched Paranormal Activity 3 and I thought the best part about it was you never see the main antagonist or really know what's going on. However, I have not seen The Conjuring so maybe Mr. Bread and I agree on this and there is just a glaring overlook on that movie's part.

They actually provide a backstory and motivation for the ghost, but it is very generic and really nonsense if you take the time to think about it.  They would have been better off not bothering.

Aren't most horror movies generic?  It's kind of hard to have a new spin on horror now-a-days.

Why is anything good Dub?  Why?  It's hard to make things good, let's just accept shitty things across the board.  What a dumbfuck attitude.

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« Reply #2934 on: October 28, 2013, 08:01:08 PM »
Watching The Conjuring right now guys.  I like it so far.

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Pay attention to the main ghost's backstory and then discuss here please. :Ugh:

First off, let me say I'm not hopping on the "be a dick to Mr. Bread" bandwagon because it made me really sad to see when that happens. But I'm going to have to say that for the horror genre, I kind of like when you don't know the villain's intent. It adds mystery and the more that's left up to the imagination the better I think it is. I just watched Paranormal Activity 3 and I thought the best part about it was you never see the main antagonist or really know what's going on. However, I have not seen The Conjuring so maybe Mr. Bread and I agree on this and there is just a glaring overlook on that movie's part.

They actually provide a backstory and motivation for the ghost, but it is very generic and really nonsense if you take the time to think about it.  They would have been better off not bothering.

Well that sounds really stupid.

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« Reply #2935 on: October 28, 2013, 08:13:26 PM »
Thinking about watching The Conjuring tonight.  Got good reviews, does it live up to them?

How was it? Probably going to catch it tonight.

It was bad.  The backstory is half-assed nonsense.

Well, since I don't really value your opinion I'm going to watch anyways. But if it sucks you can say "I told you so".

Hmmm, seems a bit fuckface-y, but it happens.  Maybe Dub will get back to you.

I enjoyed it, combines a lot of horror subgenres.  Didn't realize the dude from Office Space was in it though, so had to get over that.

Please elaborate.  Also, how did the main ghost's backstory grab you?  Compelling?  Or more like incredibly simplistic and nonsensical?  Also, also, did you find the depicted age of the ghost strange at all given the backstory?  Triple also, did the small number and random selection of prior victims seem inconsistent given the sizeable time frame and alleged motivations of said main ghost? 

Don't get me wrong the scares were good, but man that backstory.  So generic and unimaginative.  Really eliminated the possibility of any deeper psycholigical disturbing of the viewer from the film.  Cheap really.



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My point about the combined subgenres (might be wrong wording) was that they used a lot of typical horror storylines but had an interesting way of combining them (Exorcism/church/possession, little ghost kids that started with the ring, haunted house, clairvoyants, true story premise with old footage, etc.)  Not saying it added or subtracted from the film, I just thought it was an interesting take on familiar plot lines.

That being said, I'm not sure why your so bent on the ghost's story.  It's not a psychological thriller, it's a horror movie.  It seemed like the backstory set up the story they were wanting to tell.   Woman back in the day sacrifices her kid to the devil after getting in dark practices and then eventually kills herself and it damned to curse the land she owned. 

Small number of murders? It showed that they found a bunch of neighbors had died on the same land that had been split up in previous years and told the story of the previous mother who killed her child in the house.

The ghosts age?  I'm not sure what the hell your talking about, it's a rough ridin' ghost.


If your really looking for plot line holes in a horror movie, I suggest you stop watching horror movies.

First, her backstory.  She marries a farmer and he builds them a house on his land.  She gets knocked up and in order to be a better witch, she sacrifices her baby.  He catches her doing it.  I'm fine with all of this so far.  Here's where it goes off the rails into cliched nonsense--->

She runs away from him and to the nearest tree, apparently grabbing a rough ridin' rope along the way, then climbs it and rough ridin' hangs herself.  But before doing so, she specifically curses her land and anyone who tries to take it in the future.  They actually said that btw, take it from her.  Setting aside why the eff she wouldn't have just offed the husband being such a hardcore Satanist witch and all, why the eff would she have such an attachment to the goddamned land?  It's the farmer's rough ridin' property and he built the rough ridin' house.  Now suddenly it's rough ridin' sacred to the suicidal witch.  Lazy bullshit writing. 

You want a good rough ridin' backstory have the husband catch her and then he and the townsfolk do some really sick retributive pseudo-religious torture-murder action on her during which she starts throwing out some curses with real juice behind them.  Beat her, burn her, starve, mutilate, rape, crucifiy, whatever just give her some more ammunition to hate blindly.  It's isn't at all difficult.  Yet they gave you random baby muder, impromptu tree and rope self-hanging and then a rough ridin' land curse.  Absolute crap, but you're rough ridin' thanking them for shoving it in your face and asking for seconds.

Next, past victims.  She had a fat mom kill her son.  Fine, makes sense.  Then forces a maid to commit suicide.  WTF?  Not a goddamned land owner and not a rough ridin' mother forced to kill her child.  Nonsense.  What about the maid's employers, you know the rough ridin' land takers she rough ridin' cursed?  Ope, nothing.  They're rough ridin' fine because this is rough ridin' crap writing.  And no, dumbfuck, there weren't a bunch of neighbors, there were two rough ridin' kids and a rough ridin' maid.

Last, "The ghosts age?  I'm not sure what the hell your talking about, it's a rough ridin' ghost."  Yes, indeed.  She rough ridin' killed herself shortly after giving birth for the first time, yet she's this hagard old rough ridin' lady ghost.  What the eff did she age after she died?  Of course not, it's a rough ridin' ghost.  All the other ghosts were the same rough ridin' age that they died.  The rough ridin' kid ghost wasn't a rough ridin' adult now.  She wasn't a bitter old crone witch, she was a young mother witch.  Make her monsterous and gross?  rough ridin' sure.  An old goddamned lady?  Hackneyed bullshit and you're just slurping it right up.  Slurp, slurp, slurp says dumbfuck Dub can't get enough shitty writing. 

Oh, but it's a horror movie!  Set your brain to dumbfuck setting then folks.  Can't expect any imaginative writing in a goddamned work of ficition.  Can't criticize this genre.  Above rough ridin' reproach.  It's people like you that encourage this crap.  A rough ridin' idiot who wanted to scream a little.  You can have both quality writing and scares.  They aren't rough ridin' mutually exclusive.  We can have it all Dub.  #RealmOfReality

My god man, relax.

The ghost looked of child bearing age to me with additional ghastly appearence.   And yes, there were neighbors.  When doing research on the lady they talked about how originally the land was much larger, but it had been split up into numerous land plots now and there have been numerous deaths on those neighboring plots as well (and didnt go further into it).

I don't think she ran and hung herself spur of the moment like you make it sound, from the way they made it sound she hung herself a few days after she killed her kid.   And 'her' land.. if you buy a house and then get married to someone, does your wife not now consider that 'her' house too?

Set your brain to dumbfuck though! Get crazy into details that are left unexplained to ruin the plot for yourself!  Don't enjoy movies that have plot holes!


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« Reply #2936 on: October 28, 2013, 08:16:42 PM »
Bread is dead on.  Still enjoyed it, though.

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« Reply #2937 on: October 28, 2013, 08:24:54 PM »
Also, in cabin in the woods... doesn't Curt say his cousin bought the house that they went to, and his friends mention that his cousin has weird stuff when they go into the basement?   So does he have a cousin?  Why would his cousin send him to this house?

Beauty in the beast the prince was cursed when he was 11 years old... so how are there pictures of him being a grown man everywhere???

Humans cant figure out anything about the alien intelligence in Independence day but somehow realizes exactly how to create a trojan and implant it into their mainframe to take them down?? What???

If E.T. can levitate objects and people, such as the bike.  Why didnt he just levitate himself up to this mother ship when they left him.

Why doesn't Woody worry about his previous owners instead of constantly dwelling about Andy since he's a toy from 1958???



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« Reply #2938 on: October 28, 2013, 08:26:52 PM »
way to go bread, you opened up a can of Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on us.
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« Reply #2939 on: October 28, 2013, 08:28:44 PM »
The only way to settle this is for Dub and I to fight irl. 
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« Reply #2940 on: October 28, 2013, 08:28:58 PM »
Take it to the "Blow Huge Holes in Movies with LSOC" thread.

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« Reply #2941 on: October 28, 2013, 08:32:09 PM »
Is that true about Beauty and the Beast? 
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« Reply #2942 on: October 28, 2013, 08:36:49 PM »
i watched pet semetary last week.

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« Reply #2943 on: October 28, 2013, 08:38:52 PM »
Is that true about Beauty and the Beast?

Yes, the rose blooms until he's 21 years of age.  He's been cursed in the house for 10 years.  Belle also lifts his ass onto a horse.

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« Reply #2944 on: October 28, 2013, 08:42:16 PM »
I just watched cabin in the woods and oh man probably my favorite

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« Reply #2945 on: October 28, 2013, 08:48:36 PM »
Room 237
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085910/
Funny.

Stories We Tell
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2366450/
No one cares.

Room 237 worth it??  How many  :star:?  .. or shades of colors?  or whatever system you use.

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« Reply #2946 on: October 28, 2013, 08:51:23 PM »
On a sidenote.. I'm booking a room at that hotel this winter  :runaway:

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« Reply #2947 on: October 28, 2013, 09:53:01 PM »
bread. watch woman in black and report back!
its sooo close to being great, they just screwed it up

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« Reply #2948 on: October 28, 2013, 11:16:45 PM »
Conjuring was ok. I've seen worse and was disappointed. I expected more.

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« Reply #2949 on: October 28, 2013, 11:27:13 PM »
Conjuring was ok. I've seen worse and was disappointed. I expected more.

Didn't read Bread's novel, like not even a single word, but saw Dub's original post was about it so assumed.  I think what I am getting at here is Bread if thats what he was writing about, you dont just write that much unless its bad, so I think what I am getting at is a little, "I Told you so".  Then again I have no idea so take it FWIW.