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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #700 on: January 17, 2019, 06:35:09 PM »
Why do you think Trump wants the shutdown to end?

because he's found out that he's getting his ass kicked.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #701 on: January 17, 2019, 06:36:22 PM »
Why do you think Trump wants the shutdown to end?

because he's found out that he's getting his ass kicked.

did I miss something?

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #702 on: January 17, 2019, 06:41:06 PM »
https://theweek.com/speedreads/818210/report-behind-scenes-trump-believes-hes-getting-crushed


he's right.  there've been polls coming out all week and they all show the public blaming trump more than the democrats.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #703 on: January 17, 2019, 06:51:07 PM »
Much like anything else that Trump says or thinks, it is hard to make much sense of this.

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While watching news coverage of the shutdown recently, Trump turned to acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, clearly heated. A person with knowledge of the conversation told the Times that Trump said: "We are getting crushed! Why can't we get a deal?" Trump has been telling aides that he thinks Americans are going to forget all about the shutdown — entering its 27th day on Thursday, it's the longest in U.S. history — and will instead remember that he demanded money for a southern border wall.


I find it almost impossible to believe that Trump backs down over the wall fight.


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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #704 on: January 17, 2019, 07:03:50 PM »
I find it almost impossible to believe that Trump backs down over the wall fight.

oh yeah, i'm not predicting that.  like i said, all of his options kinda suck, god knows what he'll decide to do.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #705 on: January 17, 2019, 07:05:32 PM »
https://theweek.com/speedreads/818210/report-behind-scenes-trump-believes-hes-getting-crushed


he's right.  there've been polls coming out all week and they all show the public blaming trump more than the democrats.

When you say "I'll own the shutdown" to everybody, they tend to remember it.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #706 on: January 17, 2019, 07:23:17 PM »
I find it almost impossible to believe that Trump backs down over the wall fight.

oh yeah, i'm not predicting that.  like i said, all of his options kinda suck, god knows what he'll decide to do.

agree.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #707 on: January 17, 2019, 08:55:15 PM »
It seems obvious the only real endgame is for Trump to declare an emergency to build the wall and get the house and senate to ram through a spending bill that he can sign before the injunction hits.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #708 on: January 17, 2019, 09:14:06 PM »
i blame Trump for the shutdown but wtf does that mean?

yeah, it's poorly worded if what you want to know is how many people like what he's doing and how many don't.  but you can tease it out from combos with other questions and time series and what not.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #709 on: January 17, 2019, 09:14:55 PM »
It seems obvious the only real endgame is for Trump to declare an emergency to build the wall and get the house and senate to ram through a spending bill that he can sign before the injunction hits.

why would the house ram through a spending bill just because trump declares an emergency?
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #710 on: January 17, 2019, 09:20:58 PM »
i blame Trump for the shutdown but wtf does that mean?

yeah, it's poorly worded if what you want to know is how many people like what he's doing and how many don't.  but you can tease it out from combos with other questions and time series and what not.

this is why I dont pay much attention to polls, I don't have time or desire to ferret out what and to who they are polling.
it’s not like I’m tired of WINNING, but dude, let me catch my breath.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #711 on: January 17, 2019, 09:22:38 PM »
It seems obvious the only real endgame is for Trump to declare an emergency to build the wall and get the house and senate to ram through a spending bill that he can sign before the injunction hits.

why would the house ram through a spending bill just because trump declares an emergency?

Well I mean they already passed one.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #712 on: January 17, 2019, 09:37:20 PM »
if trump wants to sign any of those, he doesn't need to declare an emergency.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #713 on: January 17, 2019, 09:52:01 PM »
i think i misread your statement.  you mean get through a spending bill without wall funding in a short window while he has political cover to allow the government to reopen.  i was reading it as somehow coerce the house to pass a bill with wall funding.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #714 on: January 17, 2019, 10:04:33 PM »
if trump wants to sign any of those, he doesn't need to declare an emergency.

emergency declared, held up in court, sign spending thingies, court says no to emergency, government reopened, trump claims bad judges but I reopened government.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #715 on: January 17, 2019, 10:20:16 PM »
i think i misread your statement.  you mean get through a spending bill without wall funding in a short window while he has political cover to allow the government to reopen.  i was reading it as somehow coerce the house to pass a bill with wall funding.

Yes I didn’t take a lot of time to word it good.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #716 on: January 19, 2019, 03:46:31 PM »
Trump caves. Not surprising.


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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #717 on: January 19, 2019, 03:53:13 PM »
trump hasn't caved, steve dave.  if you think he has, perhaps he's found a useful pr move.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #718 on: January 19, 2019, 07:51:03 PM »
This is well played. If the Pubs hold together (they won’t) it puts the Dems in a very bad spot.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #719 on: January 19, 2019, 09:22:33 PM »
This is well played. If the Pubs hold together (they won’t) it puts the Dems in a very bad spot.

it doesn't, not strategically.  it's not an offer that will tempt even 10% of dems.

if you mean that it will force a narrative that dems are turning down reasonable pub offers - i don't think that will happen, but let's give it a week and see if the polls show any movement.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #720 on: January 19, 2019, 09:24:13 PM »
yeah, I bet trump caves even more

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #721 on: January 19, 2019, 09:53:47 PM »
This is well played. If the Pubs hold together (they won’t) it puts the Dems in a very bad spot.

temporary dreamers help is hardly much of an olive branch.  Dude just needs to find a way out of his idiotic campaign promise.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #722 on: January 19, 2019, 10:06:19 PM »
he's cried to tons of people that he is backed into a corner on it with no way out. like mexico gives a eff you old weirdo.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #723 on: January 19, 2019, 10:08:06 PM »
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #724 on: January 19, 2019, 10:11:35 PM »
Trump absolutely must build some stretch of "wall," no matter if wall, slats, fence, etc. and no matter if 1000 feet or 1000 miles. He just needs something to hang his hat on. And the Dems don't want to give him that ability. P simple.

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