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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #575 on: January 12, 2019, 08:47:47 PM »
Why else would people that yammer on about how much more we need to do for our poor want to expand our underclass exponentially with illegal immigration

Because those poor people already exist, just in another country. The people who "yammer on about the poor" see allowing them to immigrate here as helping those people because thousands of them are fleeing unlivable situations with horrific violence. Believe it or not it's actually pretty rough ridin' obvious.

why do you want to eff over poor Americans by spreading our assistance dollars over a larger number of poor people?
it’s not like I’m tired of WINNING, but dude, let me catch my breath.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #576 on: January 12, 2019, 08:57:21 PM »
It costs $17,777 per federal income tax paying American in federal income tax to run this country at a trillion dollar deficit and you want to let more poors in,  you are irresponsible and should rethink how you go about "helping people" with o.p.m.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #579 on: January 13, 2019, 05:02:18 AM »
At first glance either we have gotten really bad at apprehendos or those look like some numbers we can REALLY trust.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #580 on: January 13, 2019, 06:34:31 PM »
I do care about the innocents that have lost their lives as a result of the drug trade. And we owe it to all the victims of the drug war to actually find a real solution to this problem, which happens to be an economic problem. So your solutions are either that you can reduce supply (which people wrongly assume that a wall will accomplish) or you can reduce demand. I simply believe that we should be investing our money to find solutions that decrease demand instead of decreasing supply.

Good luck with that.

Good doctors treat the disease, bad doctors treat the symptoms.

Yes, because if there’s one thing we know.  Multi Billion Dollar drug cartels are not innovative. 

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #582 on: January 13, 2019, 06:41:18 PM »
I do care about the innocents that have lost their lives as a result of the drug trade. And we owe it to all the victims of the drug war to actually find a real solution to this problem, which happens to be an economic problem. So your solutions are either that you can reduce supply (which people wrongly assume that a wall will accomplish) or you can reduce demand. I simply believe that we should be investing our money to find solutions that decrease demand instead of decreasing supply.

Good luck with that.

Good doctors treat the disease, bad doctors treat the symptoms.

Yes, because if there’s one thing we know.  Multi Billion Dollar drug cartels are not innovative. 

but not innovative enough to defeat steel slats!

amirite?

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #583 on: January 13, 2019, 06:43:57 PM »
I do care about the innocents that have lost their lives as a result of the drug trade. And we owe it to all the victims of the drug war to actually find a real solution to this problem, which happens to be an economic problem. So your solutions are either that you can reduce supply (which people wrongly assume that a wall will accomplish) or you can reduce demand. I simply believe that we should be investing our money to find solutions that decrease demand instead of decreasing supply.

Good luck with that.

Good doctors treat the disease, bad doctors treat the symptoms.

Yes, because if there’s one thing we know.  Multi Billion Dollar drug cartels are not innovative. 

but not innovative enough to defeat steel slats!

amirite?

I appreciate that LibBot Nation just ignores what many who actually work to secure the border actually say.   

Just admit you’re wanting a whole new legion of Lib Voters. 

Be true to yourself . . . for once

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #584 on: January 13, 2019, 07:22:24 PM »
I do care about the innocents that have lost their lives as a result of the drug trade. And we owe it to all the victims of the drug war to actually find a real solution to this problem, which happens to be an economic problem. So your solutions are either that you can reduce supply (which people wrongly assume that a wall will accomplish) or you can reduce demand. I simply believe that we should be investing our money to find solutions that decrease demand instead of decreasing supply.

Good luck with that.

Good doctors treat the disease, bad doctors treat the symptoms.

Yes, because if there’s one thing we know.  Multi Billion Dollar drug cartels are not innovative.

did you mean to quote me here? bc your post has nothing to do with mine  :confused:

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #585 on: January 13, 2019, 09:25:51 PM »
dax, do you believe the data that suggests the VAST majority of smuggled drugs pass into the country through legal ports of entry?

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #586 on: January 13, 2019, 10:21:05 PM »
I do care about the innocents that have lost their lives as a result of the drug trade. And we owe it to all the victims of the drug war to actually find a real solution to this problem, which happens to be an economic problem. So your solutions are either that you can reduce supply (which people wrongly assume that a wall will accomplish) or you can reduce demand. I simply believe that we should be investing our money to find solutions that decrease demand instead of decreasing supply.

Good luck with that.

Good doctors treat the disease, bad doctors treat the symptoms.

Yes, because if there’s one thing we know.  Multi Billion Dollar drug cartels are not innovative. 

but not innovative enough to defeat steel slats!

amirite?

I appreciate that LibBot Nation just ignores what many who actually work to secure the border actually say.   

Just admit you’re wanting a whole new legion of Lib Voters. 

Be true to yourself . . . for once

You were talking drugs dax...not immigration. Nice pivot but again I'll ask, why would immigrants be only lib voters?


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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #587 on: January 13, 2019, 10:39:22 PM »
I do care about the innocents that have lost their lives as a result of the drug trade. And we owe it to all the victims of the drug war to actually find a real solution to this problem, which happens to be an economic problem. So your solutions are either that you can reduce supply (which people wrongly assume that a wall will accomplish) or you can reduce demand. I simply believe that we should be investing our money to find solutions that decrease demand instead of decreasing supply.

Good luck with that.

Good doctors treat the disease, bad doctors treat the symptoms.

Yes, because if there’s one thing we know.  Multi Billion Dollar drug cartels are not innovative. 

but not innovative enough to defeat steel slats!

amirite?

I appreciate that LibBot Nation just ignores what many who actually work to secure the border actually say.   

Just admit you’re wanting a whole new legion of Lib Voters. 

Be true to yourself . . . for once

You were talking drugs dax...not immigration. Nice pivot but again I'll ask, why would immigrants be only lib voters?

It all goes hand-in-hand, I've talked both, there is no pivot here.

FFS, Phil

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #588 on: January 14, 2019, 08:14:27 AM »
The immigrants at the southern border will vote dem because republicans are openly hostile toward them. Otherwise, they are religious and poor, making them a pretty good match to the rest of the republican base in the south.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #589 on: January 14, 2019, 09:08:45 AM »


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Drugs are not coming into the US through unwalled sections of the US southern border, say former cartel members testifying at the trial of Mexican kingpin Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman.

The traffickers have said the majority of drugs come in through legal ports of entry on ships, submarines, trains, tractor-trailers and cars.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #590 on: January 14, 2019, 09:22:33 AM »
The immigrants at the southern border will vote dem because republicans are openly hostile toward them. Otherwise, they are religious and poor, making them a pretty good match to the rest of the republican base in the south.

very rapidly becoming more evangelical and less catholic too.  if the pubs made it less obvious that they hate them, they could pick up a lot.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #591 on: January 14, 2019, 09:27:02 AM »
It really does imply a certain level of instability when you actually think people who don't hate browns are just pretending to not be racist so they can maybe gain voters.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #594 on: January 14, 2019, 02:00:10 PM »
Question for trump dudes, which would be the most humiliating way for trump to cave?

1) signs spending bill w/o WALL
2) "does" a national emergency, then #1, then courts block his abuse of power and no WALL
3) congress overrides his veto w/o WALL
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #595 on: January 14, 2019, 02:02:27 PM »
#3 isn't a cave but still pretty monster dunk humiliating
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #596 on: January 14, 2019, 02:37:58 PM »
i would think he'd be able to sell #1 pretty easily - he's fought to the longest shutdown in history but now he has to start up the govt because too many good americans are suffering due to the dastardly dems.  it's not a surrender on the wall, he's still going to fight for the wall forever, he's just not going to let the dems hurt good americans anymore while they negotiate.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #597 on: January 14, 2019, 02:40:50 PM »
i would think he'd be able to sell #1 pretty easily - he's fought to the longest shutdown in history but now he has to start up the govt because too many good americans are suffering due to the dastardly dems.  it's not a surrender on the wall, he's still going to fight for the wall forever, he's just not going to let the dems hurt good americans anymore while they negotiate.

Yeah, once you remember that the people he represents would be willing to believe that sort of garbage, there really is no way for Trump to come out of this the least bit humiliated.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #598 on: January 14, 2019, 02:45:19 PM »
Rule #1: You cannot humiliate Trump.
Rule #2: Trump will never lose the support of the GOP.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves? (where no democrat answers thread)
« Reply #599 on: January 14, 2019, 02:47:26 PM »
#2 is much more attractive to trumpers, imo. #1 has to be seen as nothing but a failure, #2 at least gives 27 an out with the damn activist judges
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