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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #150 on: December 28, 2018, 02:51:44 PM »
Oh no, American Politicians have never been corrupted by the multi-billion dollar drug biz, nope not in any way shape or form.

"and they definitely only use the multi-billion dollars to fund democrats!"

- ridiculous dipcrap

tell your ridiculous dipcrap buddy that American Politicians sounds pretty bi-partisan to me
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #151 on: December 28, 2018, 02:55:03 PM »
Please tell me this isn't the logic of the majority of the "build the wall" Americans....

1) Wall must be built to protect our country from illegal immigration, trafficking, and drug movement
2) Due to lack of funding for #1, Trump is threatening to close the border which will make movement across the ground at legal entry points stop
3) #2 will upset drug cartels who are moving their goods to the US
4) these cartels will insist that democrats make a deal with Trump to get #1 done.... (never mind the cartels and Ds being bff)

you missed the regular old businesses, which are a way bigger contingent.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #152 on: December 28, 2018, 02:57:33 PM »
anyhoo, how long till Nancy and Chuck crack?
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #154 on: December 28, 2018, 03:24:21 PM »
Trump will cave.  The incoming Dem house will make the things he cares about in the budget more difficult.  The senate power structure is basically staying the same for these purposes.  Trump will want to get it done before the new house, so he'll cave by Jan 3.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #155 on: December 28, 2018, 03:33:35 PM »
Please tell me this isn't the logic of the majority of the "build the wall" Americans....

1) Wall must be built to protect our country from illegal immigration, trafficking, and drug movement
2) Due to lack of funding for #1, Trump is threatening to close the border which will make movement across the ground at legal entry points stop
3) #2 will upset drug cartels who are moving their goods to the US
4) these cartels will insist that democrats make a deal with Trump to get #1 done.... (never mind the cartels and Ds being bff)

you missed the regular old businesses, which are a way bigger contingent.

You legit think legit business wont blame the actual guy who *closed the border"?

I'm still entertained you think the smugglers need the borders open to smuggle  but also think the wall is the answer to smugglers.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #156 on: December 28, 2018, 03:55:19 PM »
So closing the border is as effective as a wall. Got it.

No Silly, closing the border is going to piss off the businesses and cartels that haul stuff across it, who are then going to call the Democrat polls that they have contributed to and say you D's need to come to an agreement so that this border gets opened back up, The D's will feel the pressure and cave to Trump.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #157 on: December 28, 2018, 03:58:14 PM »
Please tell me this isn't the logic of the majority of the "build the wall" Americans....

1) Wall must be built to protect our country from illegal immigration, trafficking, and drug movement
2) Due to lack of funding for #1, Trump is threatening to close the border which will make movement across the ground at legal entry points stop
3) #2 will upset drug cartels who are moving their goods to the US
4) these cartels will insist that democrats make a deal with Trump to get #1 done.... (never mind the cartels and Ds being bff)

you missed the regular old businesses, which are a way bigger contingent.

You legit think legit business wont blame the actual guy who *closed the border"?

I'm still entertained you think the smugglers need the borders open to smuggle  but also think the wall is the answer to smugglers.

The fact that the smugglers will demand the Dems cave and build the wall tells all you need to know about the efficacy of the wall in stopping the smugglers.

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #158 on: December 28, 2018, 04:07:52 PM »
Was it on here that someone linked a poll that said something like "73% of the people in favor of the wall think they could get around it"

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #159 on: December 28, 2018, 04:29:39 PM »
you think the smugglers need the borders open to smuggle  but also think the wall is the answer to smugglers.

this is marvelous.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #160 on: December 28, 2018, 04:55:01 PM »
plenty of lower cost drugs drive right through the checkpoints, 75% get through, 25% are a cost of doing business.  Smugglers having to sneak back into Mexico will have an effect on efficiency, but lol away, the great 'crat CAVE is coming.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #161 on: December 28, 2018, 04:59:15 PM »
Please tell me this isn't the logic of the majority of the "build the wall" Americans....

1) Wall must be built to protect our country from illegal immigration, trafficking, and drug movement
2) Due to lack of funding for #1, Trump is threatening to close the border which will make movement across the ground at legal entry points stop
3) #2 will upset drug cartels who are moving their goods to the US
4) these cartels will insist that democrats make a deal with Trump to get #1 done.... (never mind the cartels and Ds being bff)

you missed the regular old businesses, which are a way bigger contingent.

You legit think legit business wont blame the actual guy who *closed the border"?

I'm still entertained you think the smugglers need the borders open to smuggle  but also think the wall is the answer to smugglers.

They are going to bitch to the people they gave money to, they can bitch to pubs but they didnt shut it down, their choices are crats and Trump and Trump didnt take
their money for the last 30 years.  :lol:
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #162 on: December 28, 2018, 05:04:32 PM »
Ksuw- you still think Trump wont get his wall money?

Yes. I think that is highly, highly unlikely. As I said before, the Dems will absolutely go to the mat on this for political reasons. So the only way Trump “gets his money” is if Mitch goes nuclear, and that seems incredibly unlikely.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #163 on: December 28, 2018, 05:18:31 PM »
Ksuw- you still think Trump wont get his wall money?

Yes. I think that is highly, highly unlikely. As I said before, the Dems will absolutely go to the mat on this for political reasons. So the only way Trump “gets his money” is if Mitch goes nuclear, and that seems incredibly unlikely.

And dumb....this whole blowing up of established rules to get the instant gratification is idioitc...

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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #164 on: December 28, 2018, 05:31:08 PM »
I'm not for the nuclear option either
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #165 on: December 28, 2018, 05:33:27 PM »
Ksuw- you still think Trump wont get his wall money?

Yes. I think that is highly, highly unlikely. As I said before, the Dems will absolutely go to the mat on this for political reasons. So the only way Trump “gets his money” is if Mitch goes nuclear, and that seems incredibly unlikely.

alright, agree to disagree.  :cheers:
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #166 on: December 28, 2018, 07:32:08 PM »
Ksuw- you still think Trump wont get his wall money?

Yes. I think that is highly, highly unlikely. As I said before, the Dems will absolutely go to the mat on this for political reasons. So the only way Trump “gets his money” is if Mitch goes nuclear, and that seems incredibly unlikely.

And dumb....this whole blowing up of established rules to get the instant gratification is idioitc...

The filibuster for budget matters was always dumb. And it s a big reason why we don’t have a real budget in the first place. I would strongly favor nuking the filibuster for budgets no matter who is in control.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #167 on: December 28, 2018, 08:02:41 PM »
The fetish for "budgets" vs. CR's is a weird Republican thing I can't ever understand if they are serious about.  I think they just remember getting mad about it under Obama and still use the talking point reflexively even if it doesn't have the same meaning when they control all 3 branches.

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« Reply #168 on: December 28, 2018, 11:00:37 PM »
The fetish for "budgets" vs. CR's is a weird Republican thing I can't ever understand if they are serious about.  I think they just remember getting mad about it under Obama and still use the talking point reflexively even if it doesn't have the same meaning when they control all 3 branches.

If you want to cut spending, which we need to do, CRs aren’t gonna get that done.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #169 on: December 28, 2018, 11:25:33 PM »
*wants to cut spending*

*votes for trump*

Lol
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #170 on: December 28, 2018, 11:36:39 PM »
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, claimed KSUW was an intelligent person. 
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #171 on: December 28, 2018, 11:43:28 PM »
I think kdub is pretty intelligent
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #172 on: December 28, 2018, 11:45:05 PM »
Well we have a single vote now!
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #173 on: December 29, 2018, 11:28:39 AM »
it's hard to see how this ends.
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Re: How mad will you be if Schumer caves?
« Reply #174 on: December 29, 2018, 11:35:53 AM »
Not for me
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