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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #125 on: December 18, 2018, 11:30:22 AM »
Pretty awesome that they have a little white guy that's a great recruiter.

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #126 on: December 18, 2018, 11:40:32 AM »
We can be critical of the phrasing of our fellow poster. However our whiteness is noticed by others in p5 ranks.

Seriously guys. I'm not gEing here. My P5 staff buddy constantly criticizes KSU recruiting staff as too white. Will always be hindered because of it. No, he's not white.


I definitely criticized Bill for never having a black coordinator before Coleman this season. IMO all CFB staffs are too white, I honestly didn't realize KSU was significantly whiter but am not surprised.
i want Coleman to stay.....
He was an early favorite to stay per my friend. Not so sure now.

We were never too white, well not any whiter than anyone else. We had 4 black assistant coaches on Snyder's last staff, there aren't too many P5 schools with more.

Also is your friend confusing Coleman with Norwood? I don't believe Coleman has done any recruiting since Bill left, Norwood has. Tell your P5 friend to focus more on his staff, he's got us mumped up.

The conversation about minority assistants needs to be divorced from recruiting talk. It's offensive that we, or any other staff, need black coaches to help with recruiting. As if black people can only relate to and be comfortable with other black people. The best recruiter in America is Nick Saban and it's not because he comes in and slams down a bunch of rings, he doesn't do that. The stories of him making connections with the kids and their families is awesome. Find his electric slide video.
Would be great if we could divorce that conversation. I don't think it's that black men can only relate to black families. I think the perception is most white men are not able to relate to black families. As you noted, it's not a problem for Saban. That's truly fantastic. Hopefully Coach Kli is able to build a staff that can relate to anyone regardless of skin color. I'd love for KSU to put together some recruiting classes like my friend has done. Maybe even some better classes than Saban.

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #127 on: December 18, 2018, 02:08:58 PM »
KLeiman on radio with Petro today said staff probably won't be all completed until around New years day. definitely after the holidays.
waiting on coaches on vacation and background checks.
said KC would be priority recruiting ground and wants a coach with connections to TX

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #128 on: December 18, 2018, 03:49:24 PM »
KLeiman on radio with Petro today said staff probably won't be all completed until around New years day. definitely after the holidays.
waiting on coaches on vacation and background checks.
said KC would be priority recruiting ground and wants a coach with connections to TX

Last question of Petro’s Final 4 to Klieman:

Petro: more important x’s and o’s or jimmies and joes.
Klieman:Oh, Jimmies and Joes. Definitely.

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #129 on: December 18, 2018, 04:34:31 PM »
KLeiman on radio with Petro today said staff probably won't be all completed until around New years day. definitely after the holidays.
waiting on coaches on vacation and background checks.
said KC would be priority recruiting ground and wants a coach with connections to TX

Last question of Petro’s Final 4 to Klieman:

Petro: more important x’s and o’s or jimmies and joes.
Klieman:Oh, Jimmies and Joes. Definitely.

 :Woot:

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lots of dumbfucks think you can be the Bama of FCS while being a shitty recruiter. one of the dumbest of all dumb guy takes

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #130 on: December 18, 2018, 07:42:57 PM »
I have a feeling that anyone who played d1 football can probably "relate to blacks" a lot more than sanctimonious goE white boy bbs'er who "has black friends" could ever comprehend.
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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #131 on: December 18, 2018, 07:53:21 PM »
I have a feeling that anyone who played d1 football can probably relate to football recruits regardless of race a lot more than anyone on gE. did someone actually say the "relate to blacks" that you are quoting or is that a FSD original ITT?

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #132 on: December 18, 2018, 08:06:02 PM »
I assume that's just how FSD talks  :dunno:
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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #133 on: December 18, 2018, 10:52:42 PM »
hurry up and decide on your staff Meadowlark!!  NDSU is ready to move on.
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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #134 on: December 20, 2018, 04:48:27 PM »
I mean...that Snyder, Mangino, B Stoops, M Stoops, Venables staff was pretty white. That didn't seem to matter.

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Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #135 on: December 20, 2018, 06:18:43 PM »
I mean...that Snyder, Mangino, B Stoops, M Stoops, Venables staff was pretty white. That didn't seem to matter.

There were like 7 total black coaches in college football back then, but I agree. Great coaches are great coaches and have great teams.

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #136 on: December 21, 2018, 02:47:38 PM »
I mean...that Snyder, Mangino, B Stoops, M Stoops, Venables staff was pretty white. That didn't seem to matter.

There were like 7 total black coaches in college football back then, but I agree. Great coaches are great coaches and have great teams.

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Probably close to the truth at that point in time, the 7 number.

While racial identity is not a prerequisite for recruiting, it certainly would be nice to get a talented black recruiter, given that the game is played by a lot of talented black youth. This just seems obvious.

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #137 on: December 21, 2018, 03:21:39 PM »
Not sure where to put this, but it is from the coaching staff.  Please note what is said at the 1:00 mark.  Could it be?

https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1076197864525713408

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #138 on: December 21, 2018, 04:07:17 PM »
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Not sure where to put this, but it is from the coaching staff.  Please note what is said at the 1:00 mark.  Could it be?

https://twitter.com/KStateFB/status/1076197864525713408

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #139 on: December 21, 2018, 04:09:50 PM »
dang, seiler took a demotion to DL. klein to coach qbs.

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #140 on: December 21, 2018, 04:20:52 PM »
Wish he could have been demoted to DB coach.  We’re rough riding hurting at that posish.
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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #141 on: December 21, 2018, 04:47:52 PM »
dang, seiler took a demotion to DL. klein to coach qbs.

This is fantastic news. 
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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #142 on: December 21, 2018, 04:48:30 PM »
dang, seiler took a demotion to DL. klein to coach qbs.

This is fantastic news.

Very much


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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #143 on: December 21, 2018, 05:09:01 PM »
opens the door for bo at DC

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #144 on: December 21, 2018, 05:10:28 PM »
I would absolutely Stan for Bo. Would be incredible.


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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #145 on: December 21, 2018, 05:11:41 PM »
opens the door for bo at DC

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #146 on: December 21, 2018, 05:12:16 PM »
I’m going to just run with it


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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #147 on: December 21, 2018, 05:17:18 PM »
 
dang, seiler took a demotion to DL. klein to coach qbs.

This is fantastic news.

Very much


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Great news that both are officially remaining on staff. Not super pumped that Klein is QB coach rather than TE or something.

DC is interesting, but I’ve got a feeling that Klieman will basically be DC anyway. Nice to have Seiler avail to work with position and have more time to focus on recruiting.

Not to say Seiler wont be named DC in the coming weeks/ months anyway.
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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #148 on: December 21, 2018, 05:54:24 PM »
What if it’s Venables?

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Re: Coaching Staff - might as well get this started...
« Reply #149 on: December 21, 2018, 06:55:54 PM »
This coaching hire is making SD Twitter fun again.