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sys · « **Reply #550 on:** June 25, 2018, 09:01:31 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on June 25, 2018, 08:57:53 PM

well yeah. reading up on Ike's Guatemalan coup is pretty disgusting.

that's 60+ years ago.

michigancat · « **Reply #551 on:** June 25, 2018, 09:04:31 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 25, 2018, 09:01:31 PM

Quote from: michigancat on June 25, 2018, 08:57:53 PM
well yeah. reading up on Ike's Guatemalan coup is pretty disgusting.

that's 60+ years ago.

indeed it was

renocat · « **Reply #552 on:** June 26, 2018, 06:45:28 AM »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dem-lawmaker-introduces-bill-to-abolish-ice/ar-AAz9hCg
Abolish ICE.
Yes that will solve everything.
What kind of defective sperm was involved in the spawning of these stoopid people?
Let's vilify law enforcement as white nationalists like this guy did ... ding dong stoopid?
Maybe stoopid should do his job and change the law.
Sorry, my mistake.
He is an irrational angry and stoopid democrat.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #553 on:** June 26, 2018, 08:13:32 AM »

ICE has only been around for 15 years. How much has illegal immigration declined since their formation? How effective are they?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #554 on:** June 26, 2018, 08:22:29 AM »

I don't have a problem with ice, it's the current president that needs abolished

sys · « **Reply #555 on:** June 26, 2018, 08:59:15 AM »

ice got to go.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #556 on:** June 26, 2018, 04:16:28 PM »

https://www.thedailybeast.com/immigration-attorney-says-ice-broke-her-foot-locked-her-up?ref=scroll

What critical role do these people perform that couldn't be handled by competent people instead? Who did deportations before 2003?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #557 on:** June 26, 2018, 04:29:01 PM »

Dax should have some great fun with this quote

https://twitter.com/vmsalama/status/1011687153191960576

bucket · « **Reply #558 on:** June 26, 2018, 04:48:19 PM »

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1011725819318755328

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #559 on:** June 26, 2018, 05:44:26 PM »

Looks like an immigration crack down all over the EU and related countries.

Time for LiBBots to disassociate themselves with the Euro's?

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #560 on:** June 26, 2018, 09:48:02 PM »

If they're being racist assholes about it, yeah. Sure.

sys · « **Reply #561 on:** June 26, 2018, 09:53:28 PM »

https://twitter.com/justinjm1/status/1011746542884179969

catastrophe · « **Reply #562 on:** June 26, 2018, 11:15:48 PM »

Yikes

chum1 · « **Reply #563 on:** June 26, 2018, 11:33:59 PM »

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1011806275385090050

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #564 on:** June 26, 2018, 11:37:14 PM »

I thought Trump already did that.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #565 on:** June 27, 2018, 06:40:08 AM »

Bold move by that judge.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #566 on:** June 27, 2018, 08:44:11 AM »

https://harpers.org/archive/2017/03/the-emigrants/

sys · « **Reply #567 on:** June 27, 2018, 08:54:37 AM »

good job, 14th amendment and federal judges.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #568 on:** June 27, 2018, 08:57:22 AM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on June 26, 2018, 11:37:14 PM

I thought Trump already did that.

I think judge was ruling out take-backsies which is oddly necessary with this administration

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #569 on:** June 27, 2018, 10:48:02 AM »

Doing some more research. Just tragic who the previous administration was getting in bed with in Central America and Northern South America, nothing is going to change until that changes.

But the ProgLib isn't interested in root cause, only the selective outrage of the day.

8manpick · « **Reply #570 on:** June 27, 2018, 11:22:41 AM »

Quote

Tips For Staying Civil While Debating Child Prisons

Recent incidents of Trump officials being confronted in public for their role in the administration’s separation and imprisonment of immigrant families have driven renewed concern about the lack of civility in U.S. politics. The Onion presents tips for staying civil in a debate about child prisons.
Avoid unkind generalizations like equating the jailing of ethnic minorities with some malevolent form of fascism.
Consider that we all have different perspectives stemming from things like age, ethnicity, or level of racism.
Recall that violently rejecting a tyrannical government goes against everything our forefathers believed in.
Find common ground by recognizing that some kids are huge assholes.
Make sure any protests are peaceful, silent, and completely out of sight of anyone who could actually affect government policy.
Give your political opponents the benefit of the doubt by letting this play out for 20 years and seeing if it gets any better on its own.
Give your political opponents the benefit of the doubt by letting this play out for 20 years and seeing if it gets any better on its own.
Realize that every pressing social issue is solved through civil discourse if you ignore virtually all of human history.
Remind yourself that you’re just two people having a cocktail at the same D.C. party and that politics is a game to you.
Avoid painting with a broad brush. Not everyone in favor of zero-tolerance immigration wants to see children in cages—it’s more likely that they just don’t care.

https://www.theonion.com/tips-for-staying-civil-while-debating-child-prisons-1827147411

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #571 on:** June 27, 2018, 11:24:17 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on June 27, 2018, 10:48:02 AM

Doing some more research. Just tragic who the previous administration was getting in bed with in Central America and Northern South America, nothing is going to change until that changes.

But the ProgLib isn't interested in root cause, only the selective outrage of the day.

Shhhhh. Don't spoil their parade.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #572 on:** June 27, 2018, 11:37:55 AM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on June 27, 2018, 11:24:17 AM

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on June 27, 2018, 10:48:02 AM
Doing some more research. Just tragic who the previous administration was getting in bed with in Central America and Northern South America, nothing is going to change until that changes.

But the ProgLib isn't interested in root cause, only the selective outrage of the day.
Shhhhh. Don't spoil their parade.

Don't just rub our noses in it Wacky, enlighten us with your take on the past administration's policies in South and Central America.

DaBigTrain · « **Reply #573 on:** June 27, 2018, 11:56:10 AM »

Quote from: ChiCat on June 27, 2018, 11:37:55 AM

Quote from: WackyCat08 on June 27, 2018, 11:24:17 AM
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on June 27, 2018, 10:48:02 AM
Doing some more research. Just tragic who the previous administration was getting in bed with in Central America and Northern South America, nothing is going to change until that changes.

But the ProgLib isn't interested in root cause, only the selective outrage of the day.
Shhhhh. Don't spoil their parade.

Don't just rub our noses in it Wacky, enlighten us with your take on the past administration's policies in South and Central America.

That would entail something besides follow the leader, which may be impossible.

Phil Titola · « **Reply #574 on:** June 27, 2018, 12:00:50 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on June 27, 2018, 10:48:02 AM

Doing some more research. Just tragic who the previous administration was getting in bed with in Central America and Northern South America, nothing is going to change until that changes.

But the ProgLib isn't interested in root cause, only the selective outrage of the day.

Let me help you out with your "root cause" fact finding

Dems did it ----> it was bad
Trump says it -----> good direction
Trump changes his mind and says the exact opposite ----> actual good direction