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The first 15-20ish pages of this thread are a pretty good discussion from people who were outraged 4 years ago.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=32336.0



This is my favorite post from the first few pages
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The New Colossus a sonnet for American Exceptionalism by Fake Sugar Dick

"...Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your whites, your Protestant,
Your blue-eyed masses yearning to pay a flat(fair) income tax,
The english speakers of your Northern European shore.
Send these, plus maybe some Asians, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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So in the course of a few days propaganda minister Nielson has:

1) said family separation isn't happening (period)
2) said it is happening but only congress and very mean democrats can stop it
3) drafted a policy to stop family separation and the president "might" sign it
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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So in the course of a few days propaganda minister Nielson has:

1) said family separation isn't happening (period)
2) said it is happening but only congress and very mean democrats can stop it
3) drafted a policy to stop family separation and the president "might" sign it

Kind of sounds familiar.  But you wouldn’t get it and would get all mad, anyway.

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So in the course of a few days propaganda minister Nielson has:

1) said family separation isn't happening (period)
2) said it is happening but only congress and very mean democrats can stop it
3) drafted a policy to stop family separation and the president "might" sign it

Kind of sounds familiar.  But you wouldn’t get it and would get all mad, anyway.
The question is why aren't you mad now? This is your administration lying to your face....second babies are in jails....yet all you can do is play whataboutism that it was already happening (it wasn't) so nobody should be outraged now.

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just read a post on nushaggy that i thought was interesting.  what if trump is setting sessions up to take a fall for this inhumane practice so he can fire sessions without pissing off the senate and then putting pruitt or whoever as AG so they can shut down the investigation?  maybe... maybe

 :pray:

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1009478909296078848

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What type of persecution are the people illegally crossing the border seeking asylum from?

Or the asylum angle a sham to avoid prosecution?
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This is my favorite post from the first few pages
Quote
The New Colossus a sonnet for American Exceptionalism by Fake Sugar Dick

"...Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your whites, your Protestant,
Your blue-eyed masses yearning to pay a flat(fair) income tax,
The english speakers of your Northern European shore.
Send these, plus maybe some Asians, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

i've changed my stance on immigration. i used to support immigrant amnesty for moral reasons and because we are a nation of immigrants and stuff. now i favor the browning of america because i'm so tired of old, scared white men.

 :sdeek:, I was such a lib.  I've really grown up in four years time.

My stance on immigration today is roughly:  Why is the question always  "what extraordinary thing has a person done to justify denying them citizenship?" rather than "what does this person add besides another opportunity for the champagne socialists to congratulate themselves on being nice?"?

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So in the course of a few days propaganda minister Nielson has:

1) said family separation isn't happening (period)
2) said it is happening but only congress and very mean democrats can stop it
3) drafted a policy to stop family separation and the president "might" sign it

Kind of sounds familiar.  But you wouldn’t get it and would get all mad, anyway.
The question is why aren't you mad now? This is your administration lying to your face....second babies are in jails....yet all you can do is play whataboutism that it was already happening (it wasn't) so nobody should be outraged now.

I'm a little perturbed.   But I'm more of a root cause person.   Why are these people supposedly trying to escape a bad situation and what are we doing to help rectify the situation back in their home country?   This works hand-in-hand with the concept of how this all could have been avoided if it weren't for politics and horrific foreign policy.   




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My stance on immigration today is roughly:  Why is the question always  "what extraordinary thing has a person done to justify denying them citizenship?" rather than "what does this person add besides another opportunity for the champagne socialists to congratulate themselves on being nice?"?
It's been a trip watching bubbles transform from a bleeding heart into a hardcore neocon over the last 5 years.


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My stance on immigration today is roughly:  Why is the question always  "what extraordinary thing has a person done to justify denying them citizenship?" rather than "what does this person add besides another opportunity for the champagne socialists to congratulate themselves on being nice?"?
It's been a trip watching bubbles transform from a bleeding heart into a hardcore neocon over the last 5 years.
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Good for him! But wait...It’s almost as if he could’ve done this before thousands of terrified children were ripped from their parents’ arms and thrown into cages in a decommissioned Wal-Mart! (Or a tent city in the El Paso summer.)

Or maybe he could’ve not done it in the first place at all!
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He’s such a hero for stopping the thing he started


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Like a wife beater that wants the wife to be happy he stopped beating her....but with thousands of kids.

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Who called him a hero?  :confused:

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Libtards won't be happy until these children are properly aborted.
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Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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it’s not like I’m tired of WINNING, but dude, let me catch my breath.

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its a good day for our sys, congrats Trump heard you.

it is, indeed, a better day than was yesterday.
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Hi. A few observations in no particular order....

1. Wow. Have not seen a thread blow up so quickly over the course of a week since the early days of the phony Russia COLUSION scandal. Good times. Speaking of which, whatever happened to that sputtering Russian COLUSION scandal? Or all those never-Trumper FBI agents exposed in the IG Report? Or the booming job reports or economy? CHILD CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!!! :runaway:

2. We separate kids from "parents" because (1) some of those "parents" aren't, and (2) it's generally frowned upon to confine children with adults. Currently, the only option to keep the families unified is to release them into the US with a citation, which (wouldn't you know it) is exactly what open-borders zealots want. Another way to keep them unified would be to prevent them from entering the US.... I guess open-borders is the higher priority.

3. Trump can't count on Congress to do anything. The Dems want this crisis, and the GOP is too divided over how to fix it. So I suspect Trump will soon issue an executive order requiring families to be housed together pending adjudication of their cases. And the left will immediately sue to stop it. Because, again, open borders is the true priority. I think you all know this is exactly what will happen. Which just goes to show how phony your outrage really is.

4. Somewhere in this thread, Sys actually posted an article advocating for the abolition of all national sovereignty. LOL.

5. Providing food, lodging, toys, medical care, and field trips to illegal immigrant children is "inhumane?" What would you call being smuggled to the border? Or the dead kids floating in the Rio Grande or suffocated in sweltering tractor trailers? Or the (HuffPo estimated) 80% of girls who are raped during the journey?

6. If escaping third world crime, corruption, and squalor is grounds for asylum, basically all illegal immigrants would be entitled to asylum, right? So that can't be grounds for asylum, right? That is, unless you're an open-borders zealot.
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Hi. A few observations in no particular order....

1. Wow. Have not seen a thread blow up so quickly over the course of a week since the early days of the phony Russia COLUSION scandal. Good times. Speaking of which, whatever happened to that sputtering Russian COLUSION scandal? Or all those never-Trumper FBI agents exposed in the IG Report? Or the booming job reports or economy? CHILD CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!!! :runaway:

2. We separate kids from "parents" because (1) some of those "parents" aren't, and (2) it's generally frowned upon to confine children with adults. Currently, the only option to keep the families unified is to release them into the US with a citation, which (wouldn't you know it) is exactly what open-borders zealots want. Another way to keep them unified would be to prevent them from entering the US.... I guess open-borders is the higher priority.

3. Trump can't count on Congress to do anything. The Dems want this crisis, and the GOP is too divided over how to fix it. So I suspect Trump will soon issue an executive order requiring families to be housed together pending adjudication of their cases. And the left will immediately sue to stop it. Because, again, open borders is the true priority. I think you all know this is exactly what will happen. Which just goes to show how phony your outrage really is.

4. Somewhere in this thread, Sys actually posted an article advocating for the abolition of all national sovereignty. LOL.

5. Providing food, lodging, toys, medical care, and field trips to illegal immigrant children is "inhumane?" What would you call being smuggled to the border? Or the dead kids floating in the Rio Grande or suffocated in sweltering tractor trailers? Or the (HuffPo estimated) 80% of girls who are raped during the journey?

6. If escaping third world crime, corruption, and squalor is grounds for asylum, basically all illegal immigrants would be entitled to asylum, right? So that can't be grounds for asylum, right? That is, unless you're an open-borders zealot.

Trump is planning on ending the separation policy, so you don't need to feel obligated to defend it.