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I’ve been describing them as Internment Camps, but yea. What else do you call them?

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Crossing the border is illegal, bringing children with you is classified as human smuggling and is a crime.  American citizens who commit crimes are separated from their children all the time.

My word, you’ve become so conditioned you can actually say something like this and believe it’s true.

It was simple misspeak. 

Crossing the border illegally is, wait for it, a crime. 

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They’re seeking asylum,  morons.


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You don’t get to show up and ask for asylum just because things were hard back home. 

Why were they hard?  Has to be evaluated. 

For example:  Were you being persecuted by the shitty Nicaraguan Government that Hillary and Obama loved?  Or was your husband not a nice person? 

There’s a difference.  Not hard.

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:lol: your husband wasn’t a nice person :lol:
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Always genuinely surprised how sys is able to look at something like this as a moral imperative and then not interrogate any of his other views on empire and economics.

maybe you should reevaluate your mental models, as they appear to be performing poorly as predictors.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."


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They’re seeking asylum,  morons.


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You don’t get to show up and ask for asylum just because things were hard back home. 

Why were they hard?  Has to be evaluated. 

For example:  Were you being persecuted by the shitty Nicaraguan Government that Hillary and Obama loved?  Or was your husband not a nice person? 

There’s a difference.  Not hard.
Showing up at the border and asking for asylum is not a crime and you shouldn’t be treated like a criminal while waiting to have your case heard.


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protip to McKee: people like this don't actually care about your line of reasoning because to them, the true crime of imigrants is being brown. Hope that helps.
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"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

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Complaining about the artwork in a "child internment camp" kind of buries the lead, don't you think?
:D Ha, good one Wacky!

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cool people spell it lede.
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Always genuinely surprised how sys is able to look at something like this as a moral imperative and then not interrogate any of his other views on empire and economics.

maybe you should reevaluate your mental models, as they appear to be performing poorly as predictors.

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They’re seeking asylum,  morons.


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You don’t get to show up and ask for asylum just because things were hard back home. 

Why were they hard?  Has to be evaluated. 

For example:  Were you being persecuted by the shitty Nicaraguan Government that Hillary and Obama loved?  Or was your husband not a nice person? 

There’s a difference.  Not hard.
Showing up at the border and asking for asylum is not a crime and you shouldn’t be treated like a criminal while waiting to have your case heard.


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I said showing up at the border and asking for asylum was a crime? 

What I said was crossing the border illegally was a crime. 

Skinny, you’re such a dumbass. 

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Many of the people seeking asylum are being treated like criminals in this administration, that was his point.

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Always genuinely surprised how sys is able to look at something like this as a moral imperative and then not interrogate any of his other views on empire and economics.

maybe you should reevaluate your mental models, as they appear to be performing poorly as predictors.

KenPom for reactionary opinions.

"i don't see how someone who believes in the free movement of labor and capital could oppose torturing children to prevent people from freely moving" objectively makes no sense.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Many of the people seeking asylum are being treated like criminals in this administration, that was his point.

Clearly this is not new, you just decided now was the time to pay attention.  Weird

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Forgot to mention the incarceration of border children by the previous administration and the methods used to question and interrogate them.  Likely got them disappeared if they were sent back. 


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Always genuinely surprised how sys is able to look at something like this as a moral imperative and then not interrogate any of his other views on empire and economics.

maybe you should reevaluate your mental models, as they appear to be performing poorly as predictors.

KenPom for reactionary opinions.

"i don't see how someone who believes in the free movement of labor and capital could oppose torturing children to prevent people from freely moving" objectively makes no sense.

ok sys.

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ok sys.

if i weren't familiar with your posting over the last 10 years, but were instead to only judge you from your expressed thoughts in 2018, i would think you were either stupid or purely trolling.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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I definitely am not as good at posting as I used to be.

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What are they supposed to do with the kids after their parents are arrested?

I'm kind of confused as to what the outrage is about. Most of you seem to think having a kid is carte blanch to avoid incarceration.
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What are they supposed to do with the kids after their parents are arrested?

I'm kind of confused as to what the outrage is about. Most of you seem to think having a kid is carte blanch to avoid incarceration.

yeah, i have no idea why everyone isn't turned away together?

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These people aren't standing at the border asking permission, whitebread. They're unlawfully in the country which is against a series of laws passed by the u.s. congress like a bagillion years ago.

It's like you're hauling a few hundred pounds of weed down I70 to sell with your kid in the back, and you get caught by the cops. They arrest you and put you in jail but not your kid.  You can't point to the kid and say it would be child torture if they arrested you, and get off. Otherwise all criminals would haul kids around with them like monopoly get out of jail free cards.
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These people aren't standing at the border asking permission, whitebread. They're unlawfully in the country which is against a series of laws passed by the u.s. congress like a bagillion years ago.

It's like you're hauling a few hundred pounds of weed down I70 to sell with your kid in the back, and you get caught by the cops. They arrest you and put you in jail but not your kid.  You can't point to the kid and say it would be child torture if they arrested you, and get off. Otherwise all criminals would haul kids around with them like monopoly get out of jail free cards.

i understand that they're in violation of the law, but are we actually processing them through the criminal system while we hold them? i can see why we'd do that in order to track and punish repeat offenders, but why not just take biometric data and catapult them back to wherever they came from.