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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2018, 06:47:37 PM »
I dont think we can rest until we have gifs of all 18 3pa, which you contend were all ungaurded set shots.
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2018, 06:56:38 PM »
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2018, 07:08:12 PM »
So what puts KSU in a better light?

A) Shitty shooting %'s (sometimes including free throws!) from the first 3 opponents were due to great KSU defense, while Loyola's great shooting % was due to KSU's shitty defense.

B) KSU got lucky with opponents' shooting in the first 3 games and unlucky with Loyola's shooting.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2018, 07:41:55 PM »
despite our gary payton glove like defense, we just got unlucky and they hit every thing that went up


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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2018, 08:14:51 PM »
So what puts KSU in a better light?

A) Shitty shooting %'s (sometimes including free throws!) from the first 3 opponents were due to great KSU defense, while Loyola's great shooting % was due to KSU's shitty defense.

B) KSU got lucky with opponents' shooting in the first 3 games and unlucky with Loyola's shooting.

I'm really over this discussion, but at the risk of :takingthebait: I'll just say none of the games involved luck as the deciding factor.  As some of the hbbiq posters stated going into the game, Loyola was a bad matchup for the dean-less Cats.  Their offense has been humming all tournament so far, so I certainly don't think you could call it a fluke from a game-by-game standpoint.

I also do not buy into any argument that overall FT% is really THAT influenced by luck.  We knew what we were doing with Kentucky by playing ultra aggressive on their incredibly bad FT shooter.

As I think about it, I'm beginning to believe oscar just put together an awesome game plan against Creighton and Kentucky that our guys were able to execute.  For both of those games, oscar had extra time to prepare.  For the short notice games, the lack of preparation showed, and we just could not play with the same intensity missing a key player who typically takes up a lot of minutes per game.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2018, 08:22:23 PM »
This is a great thread.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2018, 10:07:31 PM »
this one is just to prove you wrong (he made it) but also show a terrible play by Mawien and McGuirl



McGuirl was helping like he should have, he can't give up a dunk there. The play was lost on the awful reach in the high post.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2018, 10:18:13 PM »
this is a lovely thread.  thank you, michigancat.
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2018, 10:22:36 PM »
this one is just to prove you wrong (he made it) but also show a terrible play by Mawien and McGuirl



McGuirl was helping like he should have, he can't give up a dunk there. The play was lost on the awful reach in the high post.
I think I was still mad at him for his defense after that double

(And I know it's out of sequence)
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2018, 10:36:47 PM »
FSD defines set shots as the type that the white globetrotters would take in the sweet river baines snl sketch.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2018, 01:09:57 PM »
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Re: Not melting down
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2018, 04:29:19 PM »
he had richardson open for three on that play too.  kstate's defense looks better live than it holds up on replay.
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #63 on: March 29, 2018, 04:46:42 PM »
he had richardson open for three on that play too.  kstate's defense looks better live than it holds up on replay.
Yeah McGuirl was in perfect position to both not help and still give up an open three. Pretty impressive.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #64 on: March 29, 2018, 05:54:55 PM »
It appears to me that the only game Loyola lost this year where both Custer and Richardson played was by 2 pts at Bradley.  Both are not listed in the box score for their first two losses and Richardson not listed for their third loss.  Bradley was their fourth and final loss of the year.

Loyola and Michigan will be an interesting game.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2018, 09:14:45 PM »
Double dribble?

https://twitter.com/CBSSports/status/977678108630265856?s=19
No, but there was no reason for Brown to help in that situation. My goodness.

He crossed over and pinned the ball on his hip.
Double dribble
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #66 on: March 29, 2018, 10:30:27 PM »
nope.
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2018, 12:08:25 PM »
Double dribble?

https://twitter.com/CBSSports/status/977678108630265856?s=19
No, but there was no reason for Brown to help in that situation. My goodness.

He crossed over and pinned the ball on his hip.
Double dribble

The ball definitely touched his hip but it wasn't pinned.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2018, 12:45:42 PM »
i definitely yelled DOUBLE DRIBBLE! in public while watching it live

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2018, 12:46:10 PM »
but i'm a pretty huge cat hoops fan and i can get carried away sometimes (LOL)

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2018, 12:52:31 PM »
regardless of whether or not it was a double dribble, I hope we can all agree that was some god-awful defense by our KSU Cats.

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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2018, 08:25:26 PM »
Yeah, def a double dribble.
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2018, 10:55:52 AM »
I thought he pinned it on his hip but when I looked at it with a full screen I changed my mind.  Not even sure it touched his hip.
Play broke down because Wainright could not contain Custer on the dribble.  Wainright has gottten better at this as the year has gone on but he is still a defensive liability because of his inability to contain guys off the dribble.  Needs to improve this area of his game in the off season. 
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Re: Not melting down
« Reply #74 on: April 01, 2018, 01:28:44 PM »
I thought he pinned it on his hip but when I looked at it with a full screen I change my mind.  Not even sure it touched his hip.

correct.  could have been called a carry, but even with the emphasis on carries, that's seldom called.
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