Author Topic: 2020 presidential candidate 'crats (Read 630603 times)

Quote from: chum1 on April 20, 2019, 09:38:47 AM
Bernie voters suck because if they're not voting for Bernie, they stay home.

This is a feeling you have because it isn’t based on any data.

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One out of every four Bernie Sanders supporters said they will not support Hillary Clinton in the general election

https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/sanders-supporters-not-vote-clinton-221642

DaBigTrain · « **Reply #1542 on:** April 20, 2019, 10:27:03 AM »

catastrophe · « **Reply #1543 on:** April 20, 2019, 10:57:35 AM »

Pet peeve cross post: people who equate voting for someone other than R or D as “staying home”

Kat Kid · « **Reply #1544 on:** April 20, 2019, 02:46:44 PM »

https://news.gallup.com/poll/105691/mccain-vs-obama-28-clinton-backers-mccain.aspx

https://web.archive.org/web/20081108082743/http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

To review. In 2008 Clinton and Obama had a primary that was, without question, much more nasty and lasted longer than Clinton/Sanders. In 2008, 28% of Clinton voters “said” they were going to vote for McCain and 15% (according to exit poll data, which is not super reliable) ultimately said they did.

In 2016, 25% of Sanders voters said they were going to vote for Trump and 10-12% did according to exit poll data.

The only difference I can figure is Obama won and Clinton lost. I guess another difference is Clinton and all of her supporters are incapable of placing any blame on Clinton so have tried to scapegoat a long list of people but mostly Bernie. And since Sanders is running again he is the most visible scapegoat, so he must be destroyed.

Feel feee to correct me on what your actual claim is about how Bernie blew it for Hillary.

sys · « **Reply #1545 on:** April 20, 2019, 03:09:28 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on April 20, 2019, 02:46:44 PM

Feel feee to correct me on what your actual claim is about how Bernie blew it for Hillary.

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The only difference I can figure is Obama won and Clinton lost.

you kinda answered your own question.

8manpick · « **Reply #1546 on:** April 20, 2019, 04:21:55 PM »

Guessing Kat Kid was a Bernie-Trumper

Kat Kid · « **Reply #1547 on:** April 20, 2019, 08:10:09 PM »

Quote from: sys on April 20, 2019, 03:09:28 PM

Quote from: Kat Kid on April 20, 2019, 02:46:44 PM
Feel feee to correct me on what your actual claim is about how Bernie blew it for Hillary.

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The only difference I can figure is Obama won and Clinton lost.

you kinda answered your own question.

If he wants to run with that, then I won't waste my time with the rest of the discussion.

sys · « **Reply #1548 on:** April 20, 2019, 09:17:58 PM »

i mean, it's perfectly reasonable to think that bernie '16 supporters are trash and mumped over clinton and also think that clinton '08 supporters are trash but weren't able to eff over obama despite their best efforts. and it's rational to have different emotional responses to those groups based upon outcome.

fwiw, most '08 clinton/mccain voters are now 'pubs (or dead).

bucket · « **Reply #1549 on:** April 20, 2019, 11:33:46 PM »